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Week 16: Thoughts after re-watching the game...

Originally posted by Joecool:
You forgot to mention that Alex Smith had an awesome game throwing the ball and moving around back there.

He did.

It would be even better if a certain TE could always have the sideline awareness he showed in the second half.
Nice job, as always, Marvin. I especially like how you pick-up on the more subtle stuff. For example, I agree with you about Gore looking marginally fresher. Make no mistake, when the payoffs start, Harbaugh will ride Gore like he did Toby Gerhart. Getting Frank tuned-up is far more important than whomever is signed as the 5th WR.

Goldson has a hard-a$$ agent. He will likely sign elsewhere for maximum dollars after this season. Goldson (and his agent) are smart enough to know that they are most likely to get someone to overpay in 2012, if Goldson hits the FA market as a Super Bowl champion, so Goldson will not lack for motivation in the playoffs, even if he recognizes this 2011 season is likely the end of his Niner career.

Edwards will not be the Niners' version of Edgar Renteria after all (hurt most of the year, playoff hero). I 'm more concerned about losing Walker, and who will be the next man up as KR and/or PR, if both Ginn and Williams are out vs the Rams. My guess is that Hunter gets the KR duties and Culliver gets the PR duties vs the Rams. I also expect to see Conrad Reuland promoted to the 53-man roster and Active 45 for the Ram game.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by Joecool:
You forgot to mention that Alex Smith had an awesome game throwing the ball and moving around back there.

He did.

It would be even better if a certain TE could always have the sideline awareness he showed in the second half.

That guy freaking pisses me off that he thinks he's always in bounds. The only reason why he got the other toe taps in the 2nd half was because he was able to stop and catch the ball.

That other play where Alex Sprint-stops to the left is awesome. If nothing is open deep off that PA, then Hunter or Gore are always hanging out at the opposite sideline wide open for a check down.

Did you notice the TD run by Gore? Iupati was at RG.
Originally posted by Joecool:
You forgot to mention that Alex Smith had an awesome game throwing the ball and moving around back there.

I notice whenever it comes to Alex most of it is negative. So I see why Alex wasn't mentioned at all.
Marvin, nice job man.

I agree wholeheartedly about Goldson. He's good for a missed tackle or two per game. Luckily we can't see the whole field on gameday because I'm sure there's a lot more we could harp on. The guy makes the big hit that makes the highlight, but it does not mean that he is good. I think he stinks, personally, although he has had a decent year this year.

And like everyone else is saying - most of his picks are on errant throws. When he goes for a pick I feel like the WR gets it for a big gain or TD ALA Larry Fitzgerald in the AZ game. He should've just gone for the body on that.
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by Joecool:
You forgot to mention that Alex Smith had an awesome game throwing the ball and moving around back there.

He did.

It would be even better if a certain TE could always have the sideline awareness he showed in the second half.

That guy freaking pisses me off that he thinks he's always in bounds. The only reason why he got the other toe taps in the 2nd half was because he was able to stop and catch the ball.

That other play where Alex Sprint-stops to the left is awesome. If nothing is open deep off that PA, then Hunter or Gore are always hanging out at the opposite sideline wide open for a check down.

Did you notice the TD run by Gore? Iupati was at RG.

I didn't see that (Iupati). I'll have to re-watch.
Originally posted by Marvin49:

3) Goldson: While he's had a good year, he still has a problem that simply drives me crazy. He can hit with the best of them and will blow people up, but he just doesn't always take very good angles and misses a number of tackles. The Baldwin TD was a prime example. This is why I don't want to franchise him. I know there are people here who love the guy, but even with 6 picks I think this is a position to look at in the draft. He misses tackles and even with those 6 picks, he has ONE pass defensed. He isn't great in coverage. (I just know I'm gonna catch hell for this one. LOL!)


f**k YOU GOLDSON IS JOE MONTANA ON DEFENSE!!!! YOU SUCK HORSE DICK!!!

Just kidding lol I agree completely about Goldson. He just seems only interested in being shown on sportscenter, trying to just blow people up but just ends up running right by them half of the time. Imagine a FS that actually plays the ball, takes great angles and wraps up on tackles. Man we'd see a defense that gives up NOTHING.

Goldson isn't terrible, and alot of teams would be happy to have him, but now the niners are special on defense, and he (along with Brown) seems to be the weak link that keeps this defense from being an ALL TIME defense, the kind they will be showing in NFL films 20 years from now. Right now they give up alot of yardage through the air.
Originally posted by jimbagg:
Nice job, as always, Marvin. I especially like how you pick-up on the more subtle stuff. For example, I agree with you about Gore looking marginally fresher. Make no mistake, when the payoffs start, Harbaugh will ride Gore like he did Toby Gerhart. Getting Frank tuned-up is far more important than whomever is signed as the 5th WR.

Goldson has a hard-a$$ agent. He will likely sign elsewhere for maximum dollars after this season. Goldson (and his agent) are smart enough to know that they are most likely to get someone to overpay in 2012, if Goldson hits the FA market as a Super Bowl champion, so Goldson will not lack for motivation in the playoffs, even if he recognizes this 2011 season is likely the end of his Niner career.

Edwards will not be the Niners' version of Edgar Renteria after all (hurt most of the year, playoff hero). I 'm more concerned about losing Walker, and who will be the next man up as KR and/or PR, if both Ginn and Williams are out vs the Rams. My guess is that Hunter gets the KR duties and Culliver gets the PR duties vs the Rams. I also expect to see Conrad Reuland promoted to the 53-man roster and Active 45 for the Ram game.

I agree on Goldson and Reuland (altho I didn't remember he was on the PS).

There is a reason Goldson wasn't a priority for the 49ers in the off-season until Reggie Smith got hurt (altho Reggie is HORRIBLE...guy covers nothing but grass). I don't hink Goldson is back next year. They need to find a guy. Rogers is MUCH more of a priority.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by Joecool:
You forgot to mention that Alex Smith had an awesome game throwing the ball and moving around back there.

He did.

It would be even better if a certain TE could always have the sideline awareness he showed in the second half.

That guy freaking pisses me off that he thinks he's always in bounds. The only reason why he got the other toe taps in the 2nd half was because he was able to stop and catch the ball.

That other play where Alex Sprint-stops to the left is awesome. If nothing is open deep off that PA, then Hunter or Gore are always hanging out at the opposite sideline wide open for a check down.

Did you notice the TD run by Gore? Iupati was at RG.

I didn't see that (Iupati). I'll have to re-watch.
Good stuff, as always, Marvin. Especially agree with what you say about "fortitude"--even when they were trailing, they didn't appear to panic or become impatient.

I thought they had the game locked away, then came the blocked punt--was that Goldson's fault as well? He didn't stay back and protect, he just took off down field. But they didn't panic after Seattle scored, they just took care of business.

As to the Iupati at RG call, didn't he pull from his LG position? I saw Snyder in there and Gore ran between Iupati & Snyder, but I thought it was the usual pulling LG play.

BTW, I thought the OL had an outstanding game in a very hostile environment.
2. The Williams hit just doesn't make sense. Maybe they were already diving at him when he went down. What I hated most was how they wanted to fight about it when all the players and coaches kept yelling injured player. Seattle came to fight and there's nothing wrong with that, but have some class. Play hard, Hit hard, be overly physical but don't be class-less. It reminded me of how much I am hating the Lions lately and all their personal foul penalties.

3. Upgrading Goldson is a possibility depending on whats out there and we will be drafting late in the first. Just depends on best player available. I think he can get better at angles but what is most irratating for me is that he goes for the knock out hit every time. He has some great hits but he has just as many where he blasts the guy and doesn't wrap him up, and then the wr runs for another 10+ yards. Just blast the guy with open arms and you will still get the tackle even if the wr holds onto the ball.

4. Vernon... He's a beast but man he has alot to work on. When Harbs and the team would say at the beginning of the year about keeping Freddy P. Soft far away from the team and that they always just want to get better every week, to have things they can work on so they didn't get cocky or soft... Vernon is the first person I think of. Tons of potential and already a really good player, but man if he can work on catching the ball first and running through defenders and sideline awareness, etc... I hope this is something addressed in the off-season.

5. Crabtree... just glad he is on the team and turning the corner from all the negativity that surrounded him. He seems to have big plays every week.

6. Aldon...what I like the most is that he changes things up alot. Most DE's have 1 or 2 move's and the OL knows what to look for. Aldon seems like he will try anything to keep them off guard. The slow play off the snap. Cutting inside and going skinny inbetween the OL. Going wide or simply bull-rushing and pushing the OL back with the long arms. I think it keeps the OL constantly guessing what he going to do.

10. I couldn't agree more with Grant. I like the guy and he is good but we are missing Willis' leadership and speed.
Has anyone noticed we aren't complaining about the O Line as much as before? Isn't that nice? Alex Smith still frustrates me despite getting the job done. I hope to see Kaep late in the game against the Lambs. I would love to see Tolzien play some too. I am very concerned about Williams, Ginn, and Walker. We can't afford to lose their services at this time. One thing I have noticed and I want others to comment on this and that is, lately, in the past couple to few games, I've noticed a lot of missed tackles. Poor tackling has begun to remind me of the times when Brandon Moore was our linebacker. What's up with the recent poor tackling???
Originally posted by oldninerdude:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by Joecool:
You forgot to mention that Alex Smith had an awesome game throwing the ball and moving around back there.

He did.

It would be even better if a certain TE could always have the sideline awareness he showed in the second half.

That guy freaking pisses me off that he thinks he's always in bounds. The only reason why he got the other toe taps in the 2nd half was because he was able to stop and catch the ball.

That other play where Alex Sprint-stops to the left is awesome. If nothing is open deep off that PA, then Hunter or Gore are always hanging out at the opposite sideline wide open for a check down.

Did you notice the TD run by Gore? Iupati was at RG.

I didn't see that (Iupati). I'll have to re-watch.
Good stuff, as always, Marvin. Especially agree with what you say about "fortitude"--even when they were trailing, they didn't appear to panic or become impatient.

I thought they had the game locked away, then came the blocked punt--was that Goldson's fault as well? He didn't stay back and protect, he just took off down field. But they didn't panic after Seattle scored, they just took care of business.

As to the Iupati at RG call, didn't he pull from his LG position? I saw Snyder in there and Gore ran between Iupati & Snyder, but I thought it was the usual pulling LG play.

BTW, I thought the OL had an outstanding game in a very hostile environment.

I had to rewind a few times to make sure. Iupati was on the right side next to Center.

As for Goldson, I think it's unfair to say he only wants the highlight reels. He actually broke down on that play to secure the tackle and didn't come flying in. The problem was that he was slightly faked to the inside and he should have protected the outside.
I've been coming to these boards for over 10 years now and quit posting because of all the terrible posts during the down years. Every week your breakdowns are great reads and spot on. Keep up the good work Marvin....

And I totally agree about Goldson, look past the int's and see a guy who makes a lot of mistakes.
[ Edited by JimmyHarbs on Dec 27, 2011 at 12:05 PM ]
spot on

Especially regarding Goldson.
I'm willing to bet that QBs are salvating when they watch film on Goldson