Week 16: Thoughts after re-watching the game...

Marvin49 · 2011-12-27T10:23:29-08:00

Well...I was thinking about all of this and I was actually going to say something about Edwards, but its now a bit of a moot point. He was simply never the same after the injury. He made a go of it but simply couldn't get right. No ill will toward him and best of luck. 1) Walker: OK, that sucks. I hope he gets his shot in the playoffs. 2) Williams: One of the cheapest shots I've ever seen. There was absolutely no need of any kind to hit him like that. He was on his knees and CLEARLY not trying to run. CHEAP SHOT. 3) Goldson: While he's had a good year, he still has a problem that simply drives me crazy. He can hit with the best of them and will blow people up, but he just doesn't always take very good angles and misses a number of tackles. The Baldwin TD was a prime example. This is why I don't want to franchise him. I know there are people here who love the guy, but even with 6 picks I think this is a position to look at in the draft. He misses tackles and even with those 6 picks, he has ONE pass defensed. He isn't great in coverage. (I just know I'm gonna catch hell for this one. LOL!) 4) Gore: I think hes actually getting a bit more healthy. While not having a huge game, he did look a bit more spry than he has in a few weeks. I think backing off his carries was a good move. 5) Hunter: ....and those extra carries going to Hunter was a good thing as well. He's getting good at getting lost behind blockers, forcing a LB to commit, and then going the other way. He's not Frank, but he is a solid #2 who's improving. 6) Vernon: Damn he's frustrating. In the first half, he did the exact same thing he did vs the Cards at the stick. Alex puts that ball in a good spot and he just doesn't look down to drag the leg. Then he drops an easy first down catch and I want to put my Niner Helmet through my 70" screen. Then in the second half he makes two of the nicest sideline catches I've ever seen him make. I just wish he could have that sideline awareness all the time. 7) Crabtree: He is simply different this year. I wish he had caught the juggled pass in the first half, but the 41 yard completion was a thing of beauty. Not only was it a great pass, but the reception and the ability to stay in bounds (ya hear that Vernon?) was awesome. 8) Aldon: WOW. That guy is turning it on at the right time. That sack was fantastic. I watched it 4 times. He kinda comes off the ball slowly to lull the LT to sleep....and then EXPLODED. Not only does he have 14 sacks as a rookie, but he's not getting them the same way all the time. Yeah, the Niners love that stunt with Justin, but he'll run around you, over you and now he'll play with your head. This guy has a chance to be special. 9) Fortitude: The 'Hawks came out throwing punches and landed one squarly in the jaw (no pun intended. Sorry Delanie). They came out like gangbusters and the Niners never panicked. They just kept playin'. They think they can win any game even when things go bad early. Don't get this wrong....the 'Hawks are gonna be a pain for years to come, especially in Seattle. These teams are built the same way. The Niners are just further along in the process (and if you wanna see a great safety, look at Earl Thomas). The Niners took that punch, never lost their composure, and then dominated. Outside of the blocked punt, this game was never close in the second half. Yes, Lynch got his 100 and his TD. He can have it. The Hawk's lost and they will be sitting at home in January. 10) Grant: This is another one thats gonne get people upset with me. LOL! First off, lemme say this. I like him. I think he's a fantastic backup and an absolute luxury to have a guy like that behind Willis. He made the play of the day when he stripped Jackson from behind. He also made some good plays on special teams and overall has played very well. He just ain't Patrick Willis tho. I never expected him to be, but if Patrick is in there Lynch doesn't score that TD and I don't think Lynch gets anywhere near 100. Get well Patrick. We need you.

Dec 27, 2011 at 10:32 AM

12b6demurrer
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I really think Goldson's picks have been a result of lucky errant throws rather than actually being great in coverage. Rogers undercuts routes and gets his INTs in coverage. Goldson is just kind of in the right place at the right time when a really bad throw is made. Even his Big Ben pick was off of an errant pass - granted he did alright to shadow the TE, but if Ben is healthy, that's a coverage breakdown on the reception.

Dec 27, 2011 at 10:33 AM

susweel
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I actually enjoy and look forward to your game after thoughts thread.

Dec 27, 2011 at 10:39 AM

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Agreed on Goldson, slightly above average safety, but takes poor angles and can only make plays infront of him. Would be nice to have him around at a decent rate along with a rookie to groom, but he wants his contract. It'll be interesting to see how Baalke & Co. play this in the offseason.

Dec 27, 2011 at 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by 12b6demurrer:
I really think Goldson's picks have been a result of lucky errant throws rather than actually being great in coverage. Rogers undercuts routes and gets his INTs in coverage. Goldson is just kind of in the right place at the right time when a really bad throw is made. Even his Big Ben pick was off of an errant pass - granted he did alright to shadow the TE, but if Ben is healthy, that's a coverage breakdown on the reception.

I agree, I can't think of any picks that are a result of him making a play on the ball. His tackling is a liability and he takes bad angles. I hope he stays and improves but he definitely doesn't deserve a huge contract.

Dec 27, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Marvin49
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Originally posted by 12b6demurrer:
I really think Goldson's picks have been a result of lucky errant throws rather than actually being great in coverage. Rogers undercuts routes and gets his INTs in coverage. Goldson is just kind of in the right place at the right time when a really bad throw is made. Even his Big Ben pick was off of an errant pass - granted he did alright to shadow the TE, but if Ben is healthy, that's a coverage breakdown on the reception.

Well...yes and no. You get "lucky" on picks if you are always in the vicinity. He always is...he just isn't always there to make the play on a well thown pass. He is good at always being around the ball. Thats why he gets those picks and recovers fumbles. Its also why he makes CRUSHING hits. He's not in position to make a play on the ball, so he makes a play on the receiver.

Again, I'm not saying he's a BAD player. He's better than any of the other guys playing FS on the roster. I'm just not his biggest fan.

Dec 27, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Marvin49
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Originally posted by susweel:
I actually enjoy and look forward to your game after thoughts thread.

Dec 27, 2011 at 10:53 AM

qnnhan7
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Braylon sucks. Became a detriment to the team with his play in the Seattle game.

Dec 27, 2011 at 10:57 AM

VA49er
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Nice post. I get your point on Goldson. He's one of those players who you wish you had a better guy, HOWEVER, buyer beware on letting him go or going with a new model. I'm all for better play but he's young and will get better. I think we need to take the approach of bringing in guys to try and TAKE his job.

I hope Walker can go in the playoffs. I have a feeling we were planning to use a bunch of the offense we have left dormant for a while involving him.

Dec 27, 2011 at 11:00 AM

Slash49
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Originally posted by susweel:
I actually enjoy and look forward to your game after thoughts thread.

This

Dec 27, 2011 at 11:02 AM

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Marvin49
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Originally posted by VA49er:
Nice post. I get your point on Goldson. He's one of those players who you wish you had a better guy, HOWEVER, buyer beware on letting him go or going with a new model. I'm all for better play but he's young and will get better. I think we need to take the approach of bringing in guys to try and TAKE his job.

I hope Walker can go in the playoffs. I have a feeling we were planning to use a bunch of the offense we have left dormant for a while involving him.

I agree on your second point. These past few weeks have been about getting the passing game going. Once the playoffs role around tho, I think this team is going to look alot more like the team that we saw just before midseason.

Dec 27, 2011 at 11:08 AM

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Agree with just about everything there. I dunno if we keep Grant next season, but it'd be nice to have a guy like him who can rest either Willis or Bowman for a few plays here and there if our defense is ever out on the field too long. He doesn't have Willis' talent, but he's a baller...that's all you can ask for.

Dec 27, 2011 at 11:12 AM

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Joecool
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You forgot to mention that Alex Smith had an awesome game throwing the ball and moving around back there.

Dec 27, 2011 at 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by susweel:
I actually enjoy and look forward to your game after thoughts thread.

Same here! Thanks for taking the time to write them up man much appreciated

Dec 27, 2011 at 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by susweel:
I actually enjoy and look forward to your game after thoughts thread.

I do too.