2011 (so far) 1981
12-3-0 13-3-0
Scored 346 points (23.1/g), 15th of 32 in the NFL Scored 357 points (22.3/g), 7th of 28 in the NFL.
Allowed 202 points (13.5/g), 1st. Allowed 250 points (15.6/g), 2nd.
Differential of 144 points (9.6/g), 3rd. Differential of 107 points (6.7/g), 3rd.
Takeaway/Giveaway Differential +26 (1.7/g), 1st. Takeaway/Giveaway Differential +23 (1.4/g), 1st.
2725 total yards passing 3543 total yards passing
1928 total yardds rushing 1941 total yards rushing
The stats look eerily similiar. The 2011 49ers have alot to prove but there on the right track and this is shaping up to be a deja vu year just saying..................
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Dec 27, 2011 at 9:30 AM
- gloryniner
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Dec 27, 2011 at 9:41 AM
- Dr_Bill_Walsh
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Dec 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM
- 16to87
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They need to a Lombardi to the stats
Dec 27, 2011 at 9:52 AM
- ProfessorKel
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Originally posted by 16to87:
They need to a Lombardi to the stats
Dec 27, 2011 at 10:27 AM
- BobS
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I don't think you can even come close to comparing the offenses, remember in 1981 the rules were a lot different, way more friendly to the defense. Joe Montana never had a 4,000 yard season, now 10 guys a year throw for that much. The 3500 passing yards in 1981 is like 4,500 today, and Alex Smith is barely going over 3,000. Don't get me wrong I am more than happy with an improved Alex Smith and our rookie head coach, both have done way better than I expected.
Dec 27, 2011 at 10:34 AM
- gloryniner
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True but the Niners defense has allowed less points and they have a better turnover ratio in 2011, even though I do agree it is easier to pass now compared to then.
Dec 27, 2011 at 12:45 PM
- jimbagg
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While the 2011 Niners can also finish 13-3, there is more to the similarity than just numbers. For example:
Signature, legitimizing, in-season win vs Steelers.
Situational pass rusher supreme (Fred Dean - Aldon Smith).
FS holdover plus 3 new DB starters (Fred Hicks and the Hot Licks, Lott, Wright, Williamson - Dashon Goldson, plus Rogers, Brown, Whitner).
Standout, money PK: Ray Wershing (near Super Bowl MVP) - David Akers
Scratch deeper and there are more such similarities.
Signature, legitimizing, in-season win vs Steelers.
Situational pass rusher supreme (Fred Dean - Aldon Smith).
FS holdover plus 3 new DB starters (Fred Hicks and the Hot Licks, Lott, Wright, Williamson - Dashon Goldson, plus Rogers, Brown, Whitner).
Standout, money PK: Ray Wershing (near Super Bowl MVP) - David Akers
Scratch deeper and there are more such similarities.
Dec 27, 2011 at 12:52 PM
- Marvin49
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Originally posted by gloryniner:
2011 (so far) 1981
12-3-0 13-3-0
Scored 346 points (23.1/g), 15th of 32 in the NFL Scored 357 points (22.3/g), 7th of 28 in the NFL.
Allowed 202 points (13.5/g), 1st. Allowed 250 points (15.6/g), 2nd.
Differential of 144 points (9.6/g), 3rd. Differential of 107 points (6.7/g), 3rd.
Takeaway/Giveaway Differential +26 (1.7/g), 1st. Takeaway/Giveaway Differential +23 (1.4/g), 1st.
2725 total yards passing 3543 total yards passing
1928 total yardds rushing 1941 total yards rushing
The stats look eerily similiar. The 2011 49ers have alot to prove but there on the right track and this is shaping up to be a deja vu year just saying..................
They also both secured their divisions in week 13.
Dec 27, 2011 at 12:54 PM
- Marvin49
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Originally posted by jimbagg:
While the 2011 Niners can also finish 13-3, there is more to the similarity than just numbers. For example:
Signature, legitimizing, in-season win vs Steelers.
Situational pass rusher supreme (Fred Dean - Aldon Smith).
FS holdover plus 3 new DB starters (Fred Hicks and the Hot Licks, Lott, Wright, Williamson - Dashon Goldson, plus Rogers, Brown, Whitner).
Standout, money PK: Ray Wershing (near Super Bowl MVP) - David Akers
Scratch deeper and there are more such similarities.
1981: Run First league. Prevailing wisdom is that you have to run the ball to win. Niners win by passing.
2011: Pass First league. Prevailing wisdom is that you have to pass the ball to win. Niners win by running.
Dec 27, 2011 at 1:59 PM
- HarryPeterson
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Goes to show you what good coaching and believing will do. Good job boys.
Dec 27, 2011 at 2:45 PM
- Godsleftsock
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Also was their third year in the same system
Dec 27, 2011 at 5:54 PM
- tohara3
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Originally posted by Imfasterthanur:
Originally posted by 16to87:
They need to a Lombardi to the stats
Dec 27, 2011 at 7:59 PM
- Young2Rice
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Originally posted by gloryniner:
2011 (so far) 1981
12-3-0 13-3-0
Scored 346 points (23.1/g), 15th of 32 in the NFL Scored 357 points (22.3/g), 7th of 28 in the NFL.
Allowed 202 points (13.5/g), 1st. Allowed 250 points (15.6/g), 2nd.
Differential of 144 points (9.6/g), 3rd. Differential of 107 points (6.7/g), 3rd.
Takeaway/Giveaway Differential +26 (1.7/g), 1st. Takeaway/Giveaway Differential +23 (1.4/g), 1st.
2725 total yards passing 3543 total yards passing
1928 total yardds rushing 1941 total yards rushing
The stats look eerily similiar. The 2011 49ers have alot to prove but there on the right track and this is shaping up to be a deja vu year just saying..................
The bolded is the most startling. In an era where the defense doesn't have the advantage, 2011, we are allowing almost 2 points less per game then an era where defenses had the advantage.
WOW!
Good work.
Dec 27, 2011 at 8:27 PM
- RollinWith21n52
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Now for the differences:
1981-Joe Montana
2011-Alex Smith
I like Alex this year. He's done well... but he's not even within the same galaxy as Joe
1981-Joe Montana
2011-Alex Smith
I like Alex this year. He's done well... but he's not even within the same galaxy as Joe
Dec 27, 2011 at 10:00 PM
- 49erJim
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Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by jimbagg:
While the 2011 Niners can also finish 13-3, there is more to the similarity than just numbers. For example:
Signature, legitimizing, in-season win vs Steelers.
Situational pass rusher supreme (Fred Dean - Aldon Smith).
FS holdover plus 3 new DB starters (Fred Hicks and the Hot Licks, Lott, Wright, Williamson - Dashon Goldson, plus Rogers, Brown, Whitner).
Standout, money PK: Ray Wershing (near Super Bowl MVP) - David Akers
Scratch deeper and there are more such similarities.
1981: Run First league. Prevailing wisdom is that you have to run the ball to win. Niners win by passing.
2011: Pass First league. Prevailing wisdom is that you have to pass the ball to win. Niners win by running.
YEP. I agree. Great Point Marvin. Not sure where this will take us in the playoff as we have no Joe Montana on this team. We will have to win with our Defense and no mistakes,and keep the score close with our Offense, a Tall Order for this 2011 team lead by Alex Smith.