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**** BREAKING NEWS***** GOLDSON GOT THE FRANCHISE TAG

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Originally posted by jreff22:
still want to see him repeat a good year next year before we blow a massive load on him

Is that what he said?
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Originally posted by BubbaParisMVP:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by sfout:
Franchising Goldson will cost a measely $6.5 million. Why in the name of God would we NOT do that?! Especially if we cut Spencer and save $3.2 million. It's like we're only paying half the money for franchising him.

Franchise Goldson for a mere 6.5 and sign Rogers to a deal worth 8 mill a year, sign alex to the rumored 8 mill a year for 3 years and we are at $22.5 million in cap usage with anywhere from $10.5 to $20.5 million left to use on Brooks, Morgan, and the rest of our key FAs.

^^^Yup, pretty much this right here.

Main thing we get back Morgan, Ginn , Brooks and Rogers, Smith will be a done deal no matter what route we take in free agency.

That seems reasonable to me. I'm not interested in screwing around with his agent, and he's close enough to the point where his speed is liable to drop off the deep end that I don't mind hanging the franchise tag on him.

Ideally, I'd prefer to have him come back on terms favorable to the team based upon his ability to earn a ring. But given his age, I don't mind burning a bridge by franchising him.

Edit: And if forced to choose between Rogers and Goldson, I'd take Rogers. I remember the Daryl Pollard train wreck and will take a good corner over a good safety any day of the week.

I wouldn't see it as burning a bridge. It would be like, look we have a lot of free agents this year, so we're gonna have to put the franchise tag on you. Next year or maybe by week 14 we should have your contract done....(of course we wouldn't tell him, pending on what type of year he has).
Originally posted by BubbaParisMVP:
That seems reasonable to me. I'm not interested in screwing around with his agent, and he's close enough to the point where his speed is liable to drop off the deep end that I don't mind hanging the franchise tag on him.

Ideally, I'd prefer to have him come back on terms favorable to the team based upon his ability to earn a ring. But given his age, I don't mind burning a bridge by franchising him.

Edit: And if forced to choose between Rogers and Goldson, I'd take Rogers. I remember the Daryl Pollard train wreck and will take a good corner over a good safety any day of the week.

He is only 26. In his prime!
man...Goldson was in position to get 2-3 ints in a NFC Championship game....it just so happens our other dbs were playing great in those situations themselves.

its like the 9ers picked the same play as the Giants in Tecmo Bowl or something.
Goldson is a baller. I'd love to have him back, but I get the feeling we will have a much easier time re-signing Carlos Rogers. Rogers really wants to be back here badly, and I don't get the same vibe from Goldson. We may not be able to afford both. I hope both are back in Red & Gold next year.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Dashon Goldson: Age 27

Carlos Rogers: Age 30

Look at the #'s folks. I'd rather take the risk of an uncovered Rogers. He has 1 - 2 years of really good play left (Rogers). Goldson may have 5 - 6. He's an absolute ball hawk out there. He catches every tipped pass. He hits like a truck. His instincts and angles he takes are outstanding. The guy we can't afford to lose is GOLDSON!

Rogers says he wants to finish as a 49er. So I take that chance with a big contract over 3 years he may sign with us again anyway. We can't leave Goldson uncovered. We can't! Big dropoff in the back end without him.

Ted Ginn I think we can get to come back for a big "return man contract." We need him for field position.

Alex Smith has finally found the teacher he needs to continue to develop. Almost no way he wants to go to another team. I think he would be out of his mind to leave Harbaugh. So for a pretty good contract value I think he will come back.

These are the 4 guys I think we need to resign. But Goldson is by far the most dangerous to leave uncovered in FA. Discuss.


corners are harder to find , i love Goldson i want to resign him if we franchise Rogers and try to sign Goldson is better !
[ Edited by cNiner on Jan 24, 2012 at 8:07 AM ]
Originally posted by cNiner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Dashon Goldson: Age 27

Carlos Rogers: Age 30

Look at the #'s folks. I'd rather take the risk of an uncovered Rogers. He has 1 - 2 years of really good play left (Rogers). Goldson may have 5 - 6. He's an absolute ball hawk out there. He catches every tipped pass. He hits like a truck. His instincts and angles he takes are outstanding. The guy we can't afford to lose is GOLDSON!

Rogers says he wants to finish as a 49er. So I take that chance with a big contract over 3 years he may sign with us again anyway. We can't leave Goldson uncovered. We can't! Big dropoff in the back end without him.

Ted Ginn I think we can get to come back for a big "return man contract." We need him for field position.

Alex Smith has finally found the teacher he needs to continue to develop. Almost no way he wants to go to another team. I think he would be out of his mind to leave Harbaugh. So for a pretty good contract value I think he will come back.

These are the 4 guys I think we need to resign. But Goldson is by far the most dangerous to leave uncovered in FA. Discuss.


corners are harder to find , i love Goldson i want to resign him if we franchise Rogers and try to sign Goldson is better !

Corners also last into their mid-thirties... where as few safeties do, and with DG's style of play he wont last much past 30. IMO they both have 3-4 years left before they are knocked down a tier in ability.

I'd rather lose DG, his physicality is nice but jesus... has he ever heard of head on a swivle or peripheral vision? He takes out nearly as many niners as he does rb's.
Originally posted by Afrikan:
man...Goldson was in position to get 2-3 ints in a NFC Championship game....it just so happens our other dbs were playing great in those situations themselves.

its like the 9ers picked the same play as the Giants in Tecmo Bowl or something.

Goldson, coming from behind the play, should have the awareness to see the CB making a play and not knock out the CB.
Other than that, I want Goldson back. I fear we won't be able to afford him.
Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Originally posted by HessianDud:
Originally posted by kidash98:
Originally posted by HessianDud:
its not his job to make plays too?

its a double standard dude. i blame Williams for his stupid mistakes, but Goldson made mistakes too. if you can't see that then you're just blindly hating. This team played like crap for the most part and still could have won the game. It came down to a handful of plays, and we didn't make them.

Everyone is blaming KW but seriously, we didn't even need to be at that position to begin with! The offense struggled like f*@k yesterday, not being able to move the ball!

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yup. if williams doesn't make those mistakes, today we'd be talking about how we escaped with a Super Bowl berth because of our heroic defense, and we'd be arguing about how we can play better on offense against the Pats. but what if Brown and Rogers get interceptions? What if Brown doesn't get replaced by Brock? or what if Goldson, instead of just breaking up the plays, actually made his dangerous selfish gambles worthwhile and came up with the ball? then maybe we'd still be saying how we escaped with a Super Bowl berth because of our heroic defense and arguing about the s**tty offense, no matter what Williams did.
LOL yep he was more interested in his own personal stats than winning.
You can't expect to turn the ball over like Williams did and expect to win.

Offense: put up a 14-10 lead
Defense: only allowed 10 points and was holding the lead in the 4th hence the Giants punting again
Williams/ ST: 2 turnovers by Williams with one out of sheer stupidity

certainly looked that way.
I think we should keep him. He's the best safety at that position in the league IMO. He's young and only gonna get better. We HAVE to keep the defense intact, they are the reason we were playiong on sunday in the first place!
Didn't Rogers get absolutely roasted the first 2 weeks with out Goldson?
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Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Didn't Rogers get absolutely roasted the first 2 weeks with out Goldson?

I've said it multiple times that our corner play was completely boosted by our scheme. The 2 safety help and especially in our nickel package allowed the cbs to play under the receiver more often and jump routes for INTs. QBs that knew this would try and throw high and when they over threw the receiver our safeties were able to get their INTS.

Rogers will receive modest interest in FA but I stand by my opinion that scouts will recognize his success came from the system more so then his individual skill and unless they play similar scheme he will eventually become a liability.

That reason alone makes it more likely that we franchise Goldson then Rogers.
Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
I think we should keep him. He's the best safety at that position in the league IMO. He's young and only gonna get better. We HAVE to keep the defense intact, they are the reason we were playiong on sunday in the first place!

Best FS in the league? Wow. I want him back, but I don't share your extremely high opinion.
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Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
I think we should keep him. He's the best safety at that position in the league IMO. He's young and only gonna get better. We HAVE to keep the defense intact, they are the reason we were playiong on sunday in the first place!

Best FS in the league? Wow. I want him back, but I don't share your extremely high opinion.

Ed Reed and Troy Polomalu have something to say about this......
Originally posted by sfout:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Didn't Rogers get absolutely roasted the first 2 weeks with out Goldson?

I've said it multiple times that our corner play was completely boosted by our scheme. The 2 safety help and especially in our nickel package allowed the cbs to play under the receiver more often and jump routes for INTs. QBs that knew this would try and throw high and when they over threw the receiver our safeties were able to get their INTS.

Rogers will receive modest interest in FA but I stand by my opinion that scouts will recognize his success came from the system more so then his individual skill and unless they play similar scheme he will eventually become a liability.

That reason alone makes it more likely that we franchise Goldson then Rogers.

Goldson has elite level speed. He's always on the sideline deep routes and he covers as much ground as quickly as Reed and Troy. He just isn't allowed as much freedom as those...but we all saw how Troy's freedom got him in BIG trouble vs Tebow.
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