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Couple of thoughts...
Nov 24, 2011 at 11:17 PM
- SnakePlissken
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Good Jesus, has anybody seen the post-game locker room vids on CSN Bay Area, our players look DEAD TIRED, like f**king zombies (all look as if they haven't slept in days).
Nov 24, 2011 at 11:19 PM
- VDSF
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we can't win em all, had a good 8 game win streak, we will learn from this game come playoff time when it really matters and trust in this team to bounce back when it REALLY matters
Nov 24, 2011 at 11:27 PM
- Crazy49er1313
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Although this was a loss, I'm glad it happened now b/c:
1. We lost to a top 5 team w/the best defense in the NFL
2. We still have a 1.5 lead for the 2-seed
Most importantly...
3. We were given a reality check that we still have work to do to get better
I'm hoping Harbaugh can use this loss as a positive to strengthen the offense and get back to that power running game. As much that I'm happy we can use the passing game, we've seemed to lean on it too much the last three games. Don't care if there's 24 guys in the box, need to get Gore the ball b/c he is our offense...
1. We lost to a top 5 team w/the best defense in the NFL
2. We still have a 1.5 lead for the 2-seed
Most importantly...
3. We were given a reality check that we still have work to do to get better
I'm hoping Harbaugh can use this loss as a positive to strengthen the offense and get back to that power running game. As much that I'm happy we can use the passing game, we've seemed to lean on it too much the last three games. Don't care if there's 24 guys in the box, need to get Gore the ball b/c he is our offense...
Nov 24, 2011 at 11:30 PM
- rk1642
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Losing sucks but I think this loss will help us in our playoff hopes.
The oline just got a reality check and they are still aways off from being playoff ready. Still plenty of time to fix the problems and good for them to see this quality of D now.
Coaching must get more imaginative heading into the playoffs also. Some screens and maybe a flee flicker or two. I usually don't like these trick plays but it does help to keep a D honest. We are getting alot of persuit to the ball on running plays and those flee flickers can back up lb's and db's quite a bit.
More blitzing and stunting on D would be nice too.
Will be really interesting to see the adjustments take effect when we play the Steelers!
The oline just got a reality check and they are still aways off from being playoff ready. Still plenty of time to fix the problems and good for them to see this quality of D now.
Coaching must get more imaginative heading into the playoffs also. Some screens and maybe a flee flicker or two. I usually don't like these trick plays but it does help to keep a D honest. We are getting alot of persuit to the ball on running plays and those flee flickers can back up lb's and db's quite a bit.
More blitzing and stunting on D would be nice too.
Will be really interesting to see the adjustments take effect when we play the Steelers!
Nov 24, 2011 at 11:57 PM
- VaBeachNiner
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Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Good Jesus, has anybody seen the post-game locker room vids on CSN Bay Area, our players look DEAD TIRED, like f**king zombies (all look as if they haven't slept in days).
But, but zombies are supposed to be unstoppable. Agreed though the short week didnt help at all. Harbaugh said in his post game interview that the team will learn from this however:
"It was highly competitive, and it didn't go our way. We're disappointed about it. But our team has steel in our spine, and this will make us stronger for our ultimate goal."
Nov 25, 2011 at 12:10 AM
- Jesu80ncleats
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Its not so much we lost that bothers me, its how we lost.
1: That 75yd TD that was called back because of "Chop Block" was bs imo. It was a tedious call, even the announcers disagreed with it.
2: The face mask by Webb on third down was never called, could have made it a 1st down
3: The sack by Suggs where he tried to rip Alex's head off was never called that could have made another 1st down.
The last two bother me the most mainly because in this league there is so much emphasis on protecting the QB but yet those two calls some how weren't noticed? Give me a break if it was Rogers, Manning or Brady it would have been called in a heart beat.
1: That 75yd TD that was called back because of "Chop Block" was bs imo. It was a tedious call, even the announcers disagreed with it.
2: The face mask by Webb on third down was never called, could have made it a 1st down
3: The sack by Suggs where he tried to rip Alex's head off was never called that could have made another 1st down.
The last two bother me the most mainly because in this league there is so much emphasis on protecting the QB but yet those two calls some how weren't noticed? Give me a break if it was Rogers, Manning or Brady it would have been called in a heart beat.
Nov 25, 2011 at 12:15 AM
- SFTifoso
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This is the way I look at it:
1. This was our 2nd road game in a span of 5 days. This was the ravens 2nd home game in 5 days. Clear fatigue factor.
2. We lost to perhaps the best team in the AFC.
3. The ravens caught a few very significant breaks from the refs.
4. They showed us our weaknesses. The coaches now know where our team needs work, and they have 10 days to review what went wrong. Also this was John, so I'm sure he will offer some advice to his little brother about how he beat us.
5. Streaks are bad in the NFL. Everyone just keeps hyping you up and setting you up for failure. Hopefully the media will back off our team and let them concentrate on getting a 1st round by in the playoffs, which is a realistic goal.
6. We have another "test" against the steelers in much favorable conditions. They're almost a carbon copy of the ravens, so hopefully our team will show what they learned from this game.
Just my 2 cents. Hope we meet the Ravens again this season.
1. This was our 2nd road game in a span of 5 days. This was the ravens 2nd home game in 5 days. Clear fatigue factor.
2. We lost to perhaps the best team in the AFC.
3. The ravens caught a few very significant breaks from the refs.
4. They showed us our weaknesses. The coaches now know where our team needs work, and they have 10 days to review what went wrong. Also this was John, so I'm sure he will offer some advice to his little brother about how he beat us.
5. Streaks are bad in the NFL. Everyone just keeps hyping you up and setting you up for failure. Hopefully the media will back off our team and let them concentrate on getting a 1st round by in the playoffs, which is a realistic goal.
6. We have another "test" against the steelers in much favorable conditions. They're almost a carbon copy of the ravens, so hopefully our team will show what they learned from this game.
Just my 2 cents. Hope we meet the Ravens again this season.
[ Edited by SFTifoso on Nov 25, 2011 at 12:19 AM ]
Nov 25, 2011 at 12:25 AM
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No worries.
Nov 25, 2011 at 12:28 AM
- susweel
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I aint even trippin.
Nov 25, 2011 at 12:31 AM
- Niners99
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This game has been a decided loss since the schedule came out. people need to stop freaking out. were 9-2, and as long as we dont tank, were going to be 11-2 heading into the MNF game with PIT. Were still on pace for a first round bye.
What I find comical, is how people are NOW saying "come on guys! it wasnt Smith's fault, the OL didnt give him time to throw!". Yeah....THAT WAS ALWAYS THE PROBLEM! Smith, along with every other QB, looks like crap when his line is like tissue paper. His entire career, ive been saying it over and over "Smith is good when he has time to throw". hes had time to throw all year, and tonight was the first time he didnt have time, and look at the result.
We were beat at our own game tonight. they were more physical, they were tougher, they didnt turn the ball over, and they pressured the QB. we didnt do those things.
we now have 9 days to rest up and prepare for the Rams, who we will destroy. 4-1 in the eastern time zone is extremely rare for a west coast team. you all saw the graphics on the screen. it doesnt happen that often.
What I find comical, is how people are NOW saying "come on guys! it wasnt Smith's fault, the OL didnt give him time to throw!". Yeah....THAT WAS ALWAYS THE PROBLEM! Smith, along with every other QB, looks like crap when his line is like tissue paper. His entire career, ive been saying it over and over "Smith is good when he has time to throw". hes had time to throw all year, and tonight was the first time he didnt have time, and look at the result.
We were beat at our own game tonight. they were more physical, they were tougher, they didnt turn the ball over, and they pressured the QB. we didnt do those things.
we now have 9 days to rest up and prepare for the Rams, who we will destroy. 4-1 in the eastern time zone is extremely rare for a west coast team. you all saw the graphics on the screen. it doesnt happen that often.
Nov 25, 2011 at 12:42 AM
- Niners99
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Originally posted by SFTifoso:
This is the way I look at it:
1. This was our 2nd road game in a span of 5 days. This was the ravens 2nd home game in 5 days. Clear fatigue factor.
2. We lost to perhaps the best team in the AFC.
3. The ravens caught a few very significant breaks from the refs.
4. They showed us our weaknesses. The coaches now know where our team needs work, and they have 10 days to review what went wrong. Also this was John, so I'm sure he will offer some advice to his little brother about how he beat us.
5. Streaks are bad in the NFL. Everyone just keeps hyping you up and setting you up for failure. Hopefully the media will back off our team and let them concentrate on getting a 1st round by in the playoffs, which is a realistic goal.
6. We have another "test" against the steelers in much favorable conditions. They're almost a carbon copy of the ravens, so hopefully our team will show what they learned from this game.
Just my 2 cents. Hope we meet the Ravens again this season.
we were at home for the AZ game...
John Harbaugh isnt going to sit down with Jim and say "heres how we beat you". we could still play them in the SB. I dont think Jim really needs to have it explained. he saw how they beat us with his own 2 eyes.
the Steelers arent really a copy of the Ravens at all. the defenses are similar, but the Steelers have a more power based run game, the Ravens use speed, and half the time they send Rice out to catch passes. the Steelers have Mike Wallace, the Ravens have nobody like that. and the Steelers have Big Ben, who will be a much bigger headache that Joe Flacco.
Since were at home and on national TV, I have hopes for beating PIT, but im marking it down as a L in pencil first, just like the Ravens game. Big Ben, Mike Wallace, and Antonio Brown are going to be such a problem. I know the Ravens swept the Steelers this year, but im more afraid of PIT than BAL. theyve got a Baltimore level D with a better QB and WR1. We'll take Mendenhall out of the game like normal, so if we can get a blitz up the middle going where theyre weak, we'll have a chance.
Nov 25, 2011 at 12:53 AM
- Willisfn4life
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Originally posted by Niners99:The steelers don't have nearly as good a o-line as the Ravens do, I think we get alot more pressure that game on Big Ben. Jim Harbaugh has shown so far this season that when given ample time to prepare, our team rises to the occasion. I think the fact that we get the steelers at home and get an extra day to prepare for them, I honestly feel in my gut that we win that one.
we were at home for the AZ game...
John Harbaugh isnt going to sit down with Jim and say "heres how we beat you". we could still play them in the SB. I dont think Jim really needs to have it explained. he saw how they beat us with his own 2 eyes.
the Steelers arent really a copy of the Ravens at all. the defenses are similar, but the Steelers have a more power based run game, the Ravens use speed, and half the time they send Rice out to catch passes. the Steelers have Mike Wallace, the Ravens have nobody like that. and the Steelers have Big Ben, who will be a much bigger headache that Joe Flacco.
Since were at home and on national TV, I have hopes for beating PIT, but im marking it down as a L in pencil first, just like the Ravens game. Big Ben, Mike Wallace, and Antonio Brown are going to be such a problem. I know the Ravens swept the Steelers this year, but im more afraid of PIT than BAL. theyve got a Baltimore level D with a better QB and WR1. We'll take Mendenhall out of the game like normal, so if we can get a blitz up the middle going where theyre weak, we'll have a chance.
[ Edited by Willisfn4life on Nov 25, 2011 at 12:54 AM ]
Nov 25, 2011 at 1:04 AM
- Niners99
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Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by Niners99:The steelers don't have nearly as good a o-line as the Ravens do, I think we get alot more pressure that game on Big Ben. Jim Harbaugh has shown so far this season that when given ample time to prepare, our team rises to the occasion. I think the fact that we get the steelers at home and get an extra day to prepare for them, I honestly feel in my gut that we win that one.
we were at home for the AZ game...
John Harbaugh isnt going to sit down with Jim and say "heres how we beat you". we could still play them in the SB. I dont think Jim really needs to have it explained. he saw how they beat us with his own 2 eyes.
the Steelers arent really a copy of the Ravens at all. the defenses are similar, but the Steelers have a more power based run game, the Ravens use speed, and half the time they send Rice out to catch passes. the Steelers have Mike Wallace, the Ravens have nobody like that. and the Steelers have Big Ben, who will be a much bigger headache that Joe Flacco.
Since were at home and on national TV, I have hopes for beating PIT, but im marking it down as a L in pencil first, just like the Ravens game. Big Ben, Mike Wallace, and Antonio Brown are going to be such a problem. I know the Ravens swept the Steelers this year, but im more afraid of PIT than BAL. theyve got a Baltimore level D with a better QB and WR1. We'll take Mendenhall out of the game like normal, so if we can get a blitz up the middle going where theyre weak, we'll have a chance.
thats why you blitz up the middle. the steelers are weak there. but, Big Ben is incredibly hard to sack, and our pass rushers havent exactly been the best finishers in the NFL. we let alot of sacks slip away. Big Ben is the king of breaking out of a sack and turning it into a huge play.
the Steelers have weaknesses, I agree we could win. right now im just counting on a loss to PIT and possibly @SEA, where the crowd makes them twice as good as they really are. thats still 12-4, and likely good enough for a first round bye as long as the Saints and Bears dont finish the season 5-1. Caleb Hanie will make sure the Bears dont get there, and the Saints have a tough schedule.
[ Edited by Niners99 on Nov 25, 2011 at 1:05 AM ]
Nov 25, 2011 at 1:16 AM
- YOUNGster08
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I knew that goblin Jamie Dukes was going to come out and slam Alex Smith again. I guess he overlooked the offensive line play.
Nov 25, 2011 at 1:34 AM
- PatrickWillisHOF
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Jim Harbagh and his staff have not faced a real good defense like that in their coaching careers. It is a blessing in disguise because now they have faced a team that created tremendous pressure on the offensive line. Harbaugh and hist staff can now spend time and figure out how to create plays when the defense is putting so much pressure on the offensive line.