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Week 10: Thoughts after rewatching the Giants game....

It was a great game. Both teams had some plays they would like back. Everyone looked like they belonged on the field. It was an improved performance by the wideouts. I'd like to see a little more from them and Alex. I don't think we've hit the ceiling yet. It was great to see Vernon get involved in the spotlight. Hopefully Braylon will keep coming along and hopefully Crabs will make a few more plays too. The drop by Ginn was the only moment in the game that made me put my head in my hands.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
The best example to me of an all around team effort was when we had to kick the ball back to the Giants. Special team tackled their returner, I think inside the 15. Then the defense got an INT to give it back to our offense. Then the offense punched it in for a TD. Good stuff.


Yep. JH has this team playing as a TEAM. Now that's much easier to do when people are winning and not pointing fingers. But JH is not kidding, these guys are doing their assignments and sacrificing for each other for the W's. A great example of this was the Willis sack -- as clear as day Bowman DID NOT try for the QB, he ran right across the face of the guard drawing the block and giving Willis a free lane to Manning. THAT was awesome to see.
4) Edwards: I'm kinda concerned about him. Its not that I don't think he's a good player, he just isn't moving very well out there. Its could very well be an issue with his knee, but at times it just looks like he's kinda spinning his wheels. Hopefully that will get better as the season progresses.

AGREE -- I posted in another thread that a torn miniscus can linger and feel strange in the knee, like something is rough, not right. It may take him a while to gain confidence in his knee again. But he clearly seems to be running with less explosiveness and more gingerly. On one route, he seemed to be intentionally running with a high knee stride. It was strange.

I hope he gets 100% in the next few games and can develop into the deep outside and inside threat that we need.
i think the quote of the season was the quote by Joe Staley "We dont suck" ever since he said that, the O-Line has been a dominant force. I think that quote was the turning point for the whole season.
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Fine post.

The game showed improvement in all areas. We faced a top tier oppent and a well coached team.

Drops and bad breaks happen to both teams and I don't consider them.

We still need an upgrade at WR and one more CB.

Our Dline was getting tired being on the field so much. I think Fangio will find a rotation that can give some rst. Ray Mac seemed a tad off from his injury. Our ILinebackers are the bomb.

Our Special teams are playing excellent.

Alex played his best game and he continues to improve.

The results of excellent coaching.

Agree. Great job Marvin!
I'll add one thing I hated the Goldson blitz at the time and I knew it was trouble. I don't think Goldson timed it our right but he was way too far back. I am one who hates CB/S blitzes because we aren't a good enough coverage team to give up a guy in coverage. We didn't get much pressure but I think blitzing our quick LBs is a better option. If we do though we should mix it up as Willis and Bowman come up the middle almost every time. I like the Willis sack where he came behind a DL and twisted to get after Eli.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Nov 14, 2011 at 7:18 PM ]
Originally posted by THEB:
i think the quote of the season was the quote by Joe Staley "We dont suck" ever since he said that, the O-Line has been a dominant force. I think that quote was the turning point for the whole season.

Agreed... The improvement of the O-Line from the beginning of the year has been remarkable.. ever since Snyder stepped in for Rachal.. Last year's 1st rounders are looking better every week!!

Iupati is playing at a pro-bowl level right now and Davis is really coming around.. no more false starts or holding penalties. Goodwin has proven to be a solid value pickup..
another good post marvin, thanx. got that game on dvr cant wait to re watch it myeslf
personally, what surprises me is that more people arent discussing how Alex really OUTPLAYED Eli in this game. Not from a fantasy football perspective, but from a "do the correct things to help your team" perspective i believe he did. Eli had BY FAR the better highlights and some absolutely GORGEOUS throws, but his two INTs were REALLY REALLY BAD THROWS and he was one dashon goldson toe tap away from throwing a 3rd pick on a REALLY REALLY BAD THROW.

I know it goes contrary to the "sportscenter highlight, fantasy football driven" mentality people tend to view sports with these days, but i would rather have a QB be safe and lead my team to a FG, then throw a pick giving the other team the ball in their own territory... TWICE!!! it always has been, and always will be the most important stat in football: TURNOVER DIFFERENTIAL! our QB was better at this and that is why he was the better football player and QB yesterday IMO.
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Originally posted by Marvin49:
1) Justin Smith/Patrick WIllis: Wow. Justin just never gives up. Love the effort. Also love the fact that Willis held the TE behind him without actually holding him. He put his helmet on the side that the TE was trying to run to but NEVER used his hands. Even if Justin doesn't jump...there is nothing there. Willis made SEVERAL game-changing stops in that game. That stop of Manning on third down was fantastic.

2) Rogers: Up and down game but made the plays when they needed to be made. He also isn't dropping those pics like he did in Washington. Extend this guy as soon as possible.

3) Hunter: I think we are about to see a healthy dose of Kendall Hunter in the next few weeks and the reset of the season. I'd love to see Gore put on a show, but we don't need him to carry the ball 20 times now. We need to to be healthy when it matters. Its also a great time to get Kendall (and Dixon for that matter) some great experience...particularly in pass protection.

4) Edwards: I'm kinda concerned about him. Its not that I don't think he's a good player, he just isn't moving very well out there. Its could very well be an issue with his knee, but at times it just looks like he's kinda spinning his wheels. Hopefully that will get better as the season progresses.

5) Crabtree: Another game, another OHHHHHH....so close...... I still see a big game coming for him. Then again. I've been saying that all year...but I just STILL see it coming.

6) Akers: Pro Bowl. Book it.

7) Manning: I know he's not a Niner, but that guy is good. I buy the elite talk now. That TD to Nicks was incredible. Brown never had a chance. He was in perfect position and still couldn't get there.

8) O-Line: Really played well the entire game. Smith was sacked twice, but he really wasn't pressured too much. He had time through most of the game. I was mostly impressed with Staley and Davis who held their own. The one sack on Staley had more to do with Alex stepping right into the defender.

9) Whitner: He can be a liability agqainst the pass...we kinda already knew that. He's not very good covering tall TEs, but he played very well yesterday. He was hitting people all over the field. That also should have been a fumble on the first drive. Its all well and good to say the recievers forward motion stopped....but I watched that thing 6 times and I never once heard a whistle blow.

10) Alex/Gameplan: I love it. Manage this! No, he didn't set the scoreboard on fire, but his lack of huge numbers was NOT because he was shut down. It was because the Giants were moving the ball and killing the clock. Alex didn't get the ball for the second time until there was 5 min left in the second quarter. The pick was not his fault and stopped a drive around the 20. He almost had another TD to Crabtree or Edwards. He played even better than the number indicate. He was hitting guys all day.

I LOVED the game plan. 49ers=running team. Giants=bad against run. The obvious choice is to run the ball. Problem is, Giants know they are bad and also know that Niners are good. The Niners were smart enough to know that this great D-Line wouldn't pin their ears back and go after Smith because they were expecting run. What do you do? You pass. WELL. I love it.

Did it look to you like r.smith was late in getting over to give brown some help??
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Originally posted by SportsFan:
The fumble no fumble was complete
b******t.

I am sick and tired of these refs making one call and then getting together for 30 seconds to come up with some completely different ruling. When he fumbled, two refs ran in and said, no no, he was down. So we are about to challenge what clearly wasn't down by contact and the refs do an about face and say "Oh, ok he wasn't down but we ruled his forward progress was stopped".

The NFL really needs to provide an answer for what is going on here? Almost makes it seem like a fix was in.



Watch it! Complete b******t! Tell me any other time before that, that wouldn't have been a simple fumble? Refs are crap and the fix was trying hard this game!
Since the Saints Falcons gave went overtime, I missed the Giants first drive, just saw the Cruz fumble that Whitner picks off. Total b******t that it wasn't a fumble.

Great game by Alex Smith......he played a great game and he shouldn't of had an interception. Ginn has got to get that.

Giants Line played well against us......but I think that's been a reason why Manning is playing so well, but he can still make mistakes too.

Rogers is playing great, even though he got burnt a few times he made plays. All Dbs are going to get burned once in a while but we are making turnovers. That is going to be a key for us going forward.

To simplify what harbaugh is doing.........he has stopped the Niners killing themselves, how many bad fumbles or picks did we used to have? Now the 49ers are making plays and not forcing the ball, but being tough and physical and letting "the other team" make a critical mistake in their D, ST or O.

Last thing, when I watch the games now, I'm expecting them to make plays or at least never be out of the game.

Big Win for the 49ers!
I think Eli was great but he is liable for mistakes not necessarily his fault. He seems a passer who throws to spots and if he times things right with his recievers, it's great but if disrupted or the DB beats to reciever to the spot, he stinks. I wonder if he can mix the plays better as throwing before a break means any errors means no chance to correct for the pass.
That was a goddamn fumble
Originally posted by 9erHIGH:
personally, what surprises me is that more people arent discussing how Alex really OUTPLAYED Eli in this game. Not from a fantasy football perspective, but from a "do the correct things to help your team" perspective i believe he did. Eli had BY FAR the better highlights and some absolutely GORGEOUS throws, but his two INTs were REALLY REALLY BAD THROWS and he was one dashon goldson toe tap away from throwing a 3rd pick on a REALLY REALLY BAD THROW.

I know it goes contrary to the "sportscenter highlight, fantasy football driven" mentality people tend to view sports with these days, but i would rather have a QB be safe and lead my team to a FG, then throw a pick giving the other team the ball in their own territory... TWICE!!! it always has been, and always will be the most important stat in football: TURNOVER DIFFERENTIAL! our QB was better at this and that is why he was the better football player and QB yesterday IMO.

Alex edged out Eli in QBR this week.
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