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Aldon Smith: Game Changer

Aldon, is fast and has those arms and dives very well, can close fast on a QB. He sometimes looks like Charles Haley to me. But he's plays with longet arms. I love this guy so far. He looks like a steal of a deal pick for the 49ers.
Waiting for aldon smith sack highlights! Yes i said highlights, and sack in the same sentence for a niner!
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Waiting for aldon smith sack highlights! Yes i said highlights, and sack in the same sentence for a niner!

No one's done this yet? It's only 5.5 sacks so far...
im calling it rite now, aldon is going to be in at least the top 3 in sacks at the end of the season. Think about it...his ability and our schedule will give him more than enough chances for sacks. everyone in our division has Oline troubles (5 more division games) and they will put Aldon full time at OLB when we clinched the division
Originally posted by JustinNiner:
im calling it rite now, aldon is going to be in at least the top 3 in sacks at the end of the season. Think about it...his ability and our schedule will give him more than enough chances for sacks. everyone in our division has Oline troubles (5 more division games) and they will put Aldon full time at OLB when we clinched the division

Good point. I'm pursuing the 49ers D so hard in my fantasy league right now.
  • mike
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Originally posted by LieutKaffee:
Oh I didn't mean to suggest that was the first time the comparison had been suggested. But it's just funny how his play really turned up since that game.

Yeah well part of it had to do with taking a slower approach and seeing what he has to offer that parys doesn't. Parys did have 2 sacks in the first game, but maybe they weren't as happy with his pressure against the cowboys. But I'm sure it also helps to see ware not only live but against the guys that Aldon has to beat in practice every day. He knows rachal or davis's tendencies so if he sees ware pull a move that blows past them then he can watch that on film and try to copy it.

Just some similarities from watching this video-
Ware was a receiver in high school, aldon played tight end in high school and had some decent stats. Both were tall and lanky guys.
Also when watching ware highlights you can see his quick hands and how he uses his long arms to quickly push the tackles away, we already are seeing this in aldon as well especially the other day against the lions when he used that ninja move lol.

Ware got bigger/leaner a few years into the league but kept his speed, I still think aldon will end up doing that too just to get an even bigger athletic edge on the tackles. A bit more arm strength. But he's already good enough to end up with double digit sacks so it's all good. This video also said ware used to basically just rely on athleticism to get past the tackles but he's using better smarts and technique now too, those areas can still be improved with aldon as well.
[ Edited by mike on Oct 19, 2011 at 11:13 PM ]
Originally posted by mike:
Originally posted by LieutKaffee:
Oh I didn't mean to suggest that was the first time the comparison had been suggested. But it's just funny how his play really turned up since that game.

Yeah well part of it had to do with taking a slower approach and seeing what he has to offer that parys doesn't. Parys did have 2 sacks in the first game, but maybe they weren't as happy with his pressure against the cowboys. But I'm sure it also helps to see ware not only live but against the guys that Aldon has to beat in practice every day. He knows rachal or davis's tendencies so if he sees ware pull a move that blows past them then he can watch that on film and try to copy it.

Just some similarities from watching this video-
Ware was a receiver in high school, aldon played tight end in high school and had some decent stats. Both were tall and lanky guys.
Also when watching ware highlights you can see his quick hands and how he uses his long arms to quickly push the tackles away, we already are seeing this in aldon as well especially the other day against the lions when he used that ninja move lol.

Ware got bigger/leaner a few years into the league but kept his speed, I still think aldon will end up doing that too just to get an even bigger athletic edge on the tackles. A bit more arm strength. But he's already good enough to end up with double digit sacks so it's all good.
I see why Aldon was Drafted, 3 Tightend Set.
Originally posted by mike:
We don't really blitz either because we haven't had to, we send the 4 man front the majority of the time too. But we can afford to do that because between justin and aldon someone's getting through for at least some pressure on that right side lol.

If I remember correctly dareus is actually mostly being used at NT, which unless you're Suh usually means fewer sacks and more tackles(stuffing the run). Definitely doesn't look like suh so far lol, but guys like him don't come along often.

I think it's interesting that both Aldon and Kaep were guys that played different sports in high school(basketball/baseball), maybe they figure that switching from one sport to another means that these guys are used to having to learn everything from scratch so they're willing to put the work in to get to the next level whereas some guys from college think they know it all and stick to bad habits. So they might have rawer talents but in the end it's the rarer athletic ability as well as a willingness to work(good character guys).


i like your thought, i play drums and i learned to play with my left foot down on the pedal. now that i use a double pedal my left foot was weaker cause it never adjusted to my second pedal
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Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by mike:
Originally posted by LieutKaffee:
Oh I didn't mean to suggest that was the first time the comparison had been suggested. But it's just funny how his play really turned up since that game.

Yeah well part of it had to do with taking a slower approach and seeing what he has to offer that parys doesn't. Parys did have 2 sacks in the first game, but maybe they weren't as happy with his pressure against the cowboys. But I'm sure it also helps to see ware not only live but against the guys that Aldon has to beat in practice every day. He knows rachal or davis's tendencies so if he sees ware pull a move that blows past them then he can watch that on film and try to copy it.

Just some similarities from watching this video-
Ware was a receiver in high school, aldon played tight end in high school and had some decent stats. Both were tall and lanky guys.
Also when watching ware highlights you can see his quick hands and how he uses his long arms to quickly push the tackles away, we already are seeing this in aldon as well especially the other day against the lions when he used that ninja move lol.

Ware got bigger/leaner a few years into the league but kept his speed, I still think aldon will end up doing that too just to get an even bigger athletic edge on the tackles. A bit more arm strength. But he's already good enough to end up with double digit sacks so it's all good.
I see why Aldon was Drafted, 3 Tightend Set.
Lol, the main reason for that comparison is that both guys had to use their speed to be receivers back in the day, aldon also had to have speed for basketball. I assume it also helps in coverage but aldon did miss that pick the other day...

Anyway, one thing that will be nice to see once aldon learns how to play standing up is actually lining him up against certain tackles that we think he can beat more easily, that's what they do with Ware. They'll play him on the left,right, middle, wherever. The funniest thing is when teams don't realize that they have only a tight end blocking him and he rushes at them fast then uses his leverage to make them fall flat on their face lol.
[ Edited by mike on Oct 19, 2011 at 11:40 PM ]
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I am so pumped about this guy and his potential. After missing out on Demarcus Ware, and all great OLB sack specialist, great to see we finally have hit a diamond in the rough. He still looks very raw and I cant wait to see him realize his potential! I was excited to have drafted him, but I won't lie that I was a bit sad to see we could not have traded down to middle of first round and get next year pick (to put us in better position for Luck) while still drafting Aldon.

I would have been very happy to know Aldon had 5.5 sacks by the end of the year, but only 6 games through? wow, even that is above what Baalke could have expected. In addition, he missed 2 sacks Philly game, and did not get in game much first two games. However, in all honesty, 2 of his sacks were phantom sacks as well. One against Vick where he barely held on to his legs and refs blew the whistle instantly although Vick was comfortably making the throw, and the other was the Matthew Stafford Sack/safety where it should have been intentional grounding and a non-sack play. Nonetheless, even 3.5 sacks through first 6 games is ridiculous!! I hope dont start running at him and start trying to figure out his weakness like we did of SUH.

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Originally posted by mike:
We don't really blitz either because we haven't had to, we send the 4 man front the majority of the time too. But we can afford to do that because between justin and aldon someone's getting through for at least some pressure on that right side lol.

If I remember correctly dareus is actually mostly being used at NT, which unless you're Suh usually means fewer sacks and more tackles(stuffing the run). Definitely doesn't look like suh so far lol, but guys like him don't come along often.

I think it's interesting that both Aldon and Kaep were guys that played different sports in high school(basketball/baseball), maybe they figure that switching from one sport to another means that these guys are used to having to learn everything from scratch so they're willing to put the work in to get to the next level whereas some guys from college think they know it all and stick to bad habits. So they might have rawer talents but in the end it's the rarer athletic ability as well as a willingness to work(good character guys).

Being able to play multiple sports and excelling at it means you are a good athlete. However, you still need to consider what the other sport was. Rugby and soccer enhances toughness and footwork. Akeem Olajuwan played soccer, despite being small for a center, his footwork was great. Elway and Kaep played baseball as pitchers, both related to a QB's position. Michael Carter was a track and field star in the shot put, which relates to his having to jolt the OL upon engagement. Rugby helped the chiefs RB from nigeria (forgot his name). Tony Gonzales played basketball (hands). So anytime you have one of those athletes, you seriously have to consider that their success rate will rise and draft them if they fit your scheme.