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Culliver > Peterson

I think Peterson primarily because of our front 7. However, we got him in the 3rd round and he is playing solid football as a rookie. With the quality coaching we are now giving our players; this guy could be a top 5 corner for years which many if not most first round corners never achieve.
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by Otter:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
i'm scared to see what will happen when we find ourselves in adversity.

You mean like being down by 20 points at the half against a fast dynamic offense, on the road? That kind of diversity?

Or losing two of your 3 starting wideouts and having to go on the road against an undefeated team?



Pwnd

nah, not trying to pwn. I actually agree with him to a point. I'm worried about how Harbaugh will motivate them if they lose two games in a row, or the scheme seems to fail in a shootout against a team like Green Bay. But at least we've already seen them tackle some challenges so far.
Originally posted by Otter:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by Otter:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
i'm scared to see what will happen when we find ourselves in adversity.

You mean like being down by 20 points at the half against a fast dynamic offense, on the road? That kind of diversity?

Or losing two of your 3 starting wideouts and having to go on the road against an undefeated team?



Pwnd

nah, not trying to pwn. I actually agree with him to a point. I'm worried about how Harbaugh will motivate them if they lose two games in a row, or the scheme seems to fail in a shootout against a team like Green Bay. But at least we've already seen them tackle some challenges so far.

This team is slowly being built into a tank
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
i'm scared to see what will happen when we find ourselves in adversity.
You mean you haven't already??

Ummmmm..... let's define "adversity", shall we?

How about down by 20 in the second half against a super talented Eagles team in one of the toughest places to play in the entire NFL! Result?
Singletary: We lose by 40 instead (Speculation of course)
Harbaugh: We WIN by 1 after going on an offensive tear in the 2nd half and holding the Iggles to a paultry 3 points

How about a 2-turnoever, 150yds in penalties, on the road against an undefeated Lions team.... down by 4 with just over 3 minutes left in the game?
Singletard: We lose by 4 or give up one more garbage TD and lose by 11
Harbaugh: (With due respect to Ginn for a great return, and a great playcall and execution A. Smith to D-Love on 4th and 6)... Another W and one helluva handshake!

Dare I say, this team has already "faced some adversity"? I think it's fair to say...
[ Edited by NinerPride365 on Oct 25, 2011 at 9:52 AM ]
Originally posted by 49ERGUY:
I have to second that , two nice posts.

I'll take the combination of Aldon Smith and Culliver any day over Peterson.

I agree 100%...

Oh, and just to add insult to injury:

Niners: + Carlos Rogers
Cards: - Rogers Cromartie

How do ya like them apples?

Good pick with a lot of upside. I like the way JH drafts. He seems to draft the way a college coach picks high school players. It isn't too important what you played in high school. A college coach will look at a player's abilities and see what position they need and if those abilittes will fill that position. If someone was a big RB in high school they could end up as a OLB in college because they had 4.55 speed instead of 4.3 speed . JH isn't quite that drastic with the pros, but close. JH took a speedy safety and made him a CB .He took a small DE and made him a FB. He drafted a 4-3 DE and is slowly turning him into a 3-4 OLB. It makes more sense to look at what position a team needs and find talent to fit that position. All of this takes time so picking the body with the correct skill set and mental make up is tricky. JH and Balke seem to have the nack for selecting those picks or they were just really lucky. Two more drafts should tell. If we are picking at the end of each round because we finishing high, they are really going to need to pick well. Let's hope that it is talent and not luck.
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
I think Peterson primarily because of our front 7. However, we got him in the 3rd round and he is playing solid football as a rookie. With the quality coaching we are now giving our players; this guy could be a top 5 corner for years which many if not most first round corners never achieve.


WOW lets not get ahead of ourselves, Detroit had no running game we played a lot of 2 deep coverage over the top. CC had help the whole game with our FS double teaming CJ, and he still got over 100 yards receiving. I like the kids progress but lets see how he handles Man before we start talking shutdown corner status. If he can lock down a WR in Man and allow double coverage on the other side, then I'll be the first on the top 5 corner bandwagon. Oh and front seven owning doesn't hurt, he hasn't been tested on double moves yet. All in all I give the kid props he is competing and making plays for us.
We will see come Nov. 20th.......
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Good points "NoOffseason!" You dont post often, but you got some nice insight.




Mods: Please merge this thread with the duplicate I made.

agree very nice post NoOffseason
Ive been hearing anylists saying Peterson does not look good and has payed poorly. So right now culliver looks like the better pick. I'm hoping he just keeps getting better and better and becomes a diamond n the rough player that emerges as a lock down corner. But that's a couple of years away so let's hope
Originally posted by foundone:
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
I think Peterson primarily because of our front 7. However, we got him in the 3rd round and he is playing solid football as a rookie. With the quality coaching we are now giving our players; this guy could be a top 5 corner for years which many if not most first round corners never achieve.


WOW lets not get ahead of ourselves, Detroit had no running game we played a lot of 2 deep coverage over the top. CC had help the whole game with our FS double teaming CJ, and he still got over 100 yards receiving. I like the kids progress but lets see how he handles Man before we start talking shutdown corner status. If he can lock down a WR in Man and allow double coverage on the other side, then I'll be the first on the top 5 corner bandwagon. Oh and front seven owning doesn't hurt, he hasn't been tested on double moves yet. All in all I give the kid props he is competing and making plays for us.

You do realize that alot of CJ yds came from him beating the zone and not? this is Matt M's grading of Cully
29-Chris Culliver: Played most of the game, as the 49ers employed their nickel defense for about 60 snaps in the game. . . . He was credited with three tackles and one pass defensed. . . . Good coverage on deep ball down right sideline intended for Johnson in third quarter. . . Was right there to wrap up Johnson on crossing route on final play when Lions tried to keep the ball alive with laterals. But Johnson's pitch to Young was mishandled to end the game. (Follow on Twitter @Cully_Man)Read more: 49ers review: Defensive player-by-player Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/49ers-review-Defensive-player-by-player?blockID=579398&feedID=5936
Originally posted by SF4EVA:
You do realize that alot of CJ yds came from him beating the zone and not? this is Matt M's grading of Cully
29-Chris Culliver: Played most of the game, as the 49ers employed their nickel defense for about 60 snaps in the game. . . . He was credited with three tackles and one pass defensed. . . . Good coverage on deep ball down right sideline intended for Johnson in third quarter. . . Was right there to wrap up Johnson on crossing route on final play when Lions tried to keep the ball alive with laterals. But Johnson's pitch to Young was mishandled to end the game. (Follow on Twitter @Cully_Man)Read more: 49ers review: Defensive player-by-player Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/49ers-review-Defensive-player-by-player?blockID=579398&feedID=5936

You don't seem to understand how it works in the WZ.

ANY passing yards, even if they are to the RB or TE, are directly attributed to our CB's man-to-man coverage ability. Oh ya, also their speed. For example, if the QB throws a screen to a running back, and the play gets big yards, it means our CB's are "slow", because the stats say they just gave up a bunch of passing yards.
I am so sick of people saying let's not get ahead of ourselves. If you don't get ahead of yourself than you pretty much talk about what happened in the last game for a week and in the by week that's two week of analyzing the last game. It's boring, i'd rather analyze the last game what might happen in the next our chances of winning 10 super bowls in a row just because we won 5 games this season. I don't care anything to kill time until my Niners are back on tv. Let the people who like to speculate, speculate.

Culliver was picked in the third round and is being compared to a CB who was picked #5 overall, that's saying something. Not to mention he is a rookie who did play man coverage against CJ and this was the first game he did not score a TD. Even with our safety helping, you think we are the first one to double team him. His draft spot mixed with his success means we got a lot for a little. In 2 years if PP beats him out for a probowl spot and he is number 2 under PP that means we still win this one. Great pick! I believe he is greater than PP up until this point, he's played better and he cost less.
Originally posted by jvangeystel:
I am so sick of people saying let's not get ahead of ourselves. If you don't get ahead of yourself than you pretty much talk about what happened in the last game for a week and in the by week that's two week of analyzing the last game. It's boring, i'd rather analyze the last game what might happen in the next our chances of winning 10 super bowls in a row just because we won 5 games this season. I don't care anything to kill time until my Niners are back on tv. Let the people who like to speculate, speculate.

Culliver was picked in the third round and is being compared to a CB who was picked #5 overall, that's saying something. Not to mention he is a rookie who did play man coverage against CJ and this was the first game he did not score a TD. Even with our safety helping, you think we are the first one to double team him. His draft spot mixed with his success means we got a lot for a little. In 2 years if PP beats him out for a probowl spot and he is number 2 under PP that means we still win this one. Great pick! I believe he is greater than PP up until this point, he's played better and he cost less.

Nice post

I'm also sick of the "Whoa lets not get ahead of ourselves" s**t.
I'm tempted to take Cully because eventually Peterson will move to safety.