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Surprising stat: As of week 3, the Niners have the best turnover ratio in the entire NFL
Sep 29, 2011 at 4:43 PM
- SanDiego49er
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So if you are going to talk about that you have to talk about Alex Smith. Because he is part of that. He's not turning it over. And that's important in turnover ratio. All these guys are complaining about not 400 yards and such but not turning it over is pretty damn important to winning in the NFL.
Sep 29, 2011 at 4:49 PM
- gold49digger
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i like the offense protecting the ball now i want the defense to cause a barrage of turnovers.
Sep 29, 2011 at 4:54 PM
- 49ERwhiner
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Originally posted by gold49digger:
i like the offense protecting the ball now i want the defense to cause a barrage of turnovers.
Yeah I love that our Offense is protecting the ball .......... Now we need and want to see the defense cause that barrage of turnovers.
Starting with the Eagles game ..........
Sep 30, 2011 at 12:02 PM
- NoOffseason
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Well, I dug a little deeper and found the following stats:
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=REG&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=DEFENSIVE_INTERCEPTIONS&tabSeq=2&season=2011&role=OPP&Submit=Go&archive=false&conference=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=INTERCEPTIONS&qualified=true
As of week 3, the Niners are third-best in the league in Turnovers from the Defense, with 5 INT and 3 recovered FF, for eight defensive TO total. The Ravens are first with ten (5 each) and the Bills are second with 9 (6 INT, 3 recovered FF, thanks Tom Brady ).
That means we average 2,66 defensive TO per game, an excellent average. For comparison, the stats from last year show that the Giants had the most defensive TO last season, having 39 total. That would average to about 2,4375 defensive TO.
Now if you add our one INT and the one fumble we lost, this adds up to our +6 TO ratio, which would average to a +2 per game (duh ). In comparison, the leader last year in TO differential were the Patriots who had a +28 over 16 games, thus averaging +1,75 per game.
I am NOT saying we can keep these averages up, I think they will go down over the course of the season. But still, this an excellent start
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=REG&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=DEFENSIVE_INTERCEPTIONS&tabSeq=2&season=2011&role=OPP&Submit=Go&archive=false&conference=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=INTERCEPTIONS&qualified=true
As of week 3, the Niners are third-best in the league in Turnovers from the Defense, with 5 INT and 3 recovered FF, for eight defensive TO total. The Ravens are first with ten (5 each) and the Bills are second with 9 (6 INT, 3 recovered FF, thanks Tom Brady ).
That means we average 2,66 defensive TO per game, an excellent average. For comparison, the stats from last year show that the Giants had the most defensive TO last season, having 39 total. That would average to about 2,4375 defensive TO.
Now if you add our one INT and the one fumble we lost, this adds up to our +6 TO ratio, which would average to a +2 per game (duh ). In comparison, the leader last year in TO differential were the Patriots who had a +28 over 16 games, thus averaging +1,75 per game.
I am NOT saying we can keep these averages up, I think they will go down over the course of the season. But still, this an excellent start
Sep 30, 2011 at 12:19 PM
- StOnEy333
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Originally posted by NoOffseason:Well, I dug a little deeper and found the following stats:
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=REG&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=DEFENSIVE_INTERCEPTIONS&tabSeq=2&season=2011&role=OPP&Submit=Go&archive=false&conference=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=INTERCEPTIONS&qualified=true
As of week 3, the Niners are third-best in the league in Turnovers from the Defense, with 5 INT and 3 recovered FF, for eight defensive TO total. The Ravens are first with ten (5 each) and the Bills are second with 9 (6 INT, 3 recovered FF, thanks Tom Brady ).
That means we average 2,66 defensive TO per game, an excellent average. For comparison, the stats from last year show that the Giants had the most defensive TO last season, having 39 total. That would average to about 2,4375 defensive TO.
Now if you add our one INT and the one fumble we lost, this adds up to our +6 TO ratio, which would average to a +2 per game (duh ). In comparison, the leader last year in TO differential were the Patriots who had a +28 over 16 games, thus averaging +1,75 per game.
I am NOT saying we can keep these averages up, I think they will go down over the course of the season. But still, this an excellent start
24000+ defensive TO's?!? Holy shizzle!!! BEST DEFENSE EVER!!!
Sep 30, 2011 at 12:27 PM
- Overkill
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More respect from the media?
We're doomed now, for sure.
We're doomed now, for sure.
Sep 30, 2011 at 1:06 PM
- NoOffseason
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by NoOffseason:
Well, I dug a little deeper and found the following stats:
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=REG&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=DEFENSIVE_INTERCEPTIONS&tabSeq=2&season=2011&role=OPP&Submit=Go&archive=false&conference=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=INTERCEPTIONS&qualified=true
As of week 3, the Niners are third-best in the league in Turnovers from the Defense, with 5 INT and 3 recovered FF, for eight defensive TO total. The Ravens are first with ten (5 each) and the Bills are second with 9 (6 INT, 3 recovered FF, thanks Tom Brady ).
That means we average 2,66 defensive TO per game, an excellent average. For comparison, the stats from last year show that the Giants had the most defensive TO last season, having 39 total. That would average to about 2,4375 defensive TO.
Now if you add our one INT and the one fumble we lost, this adds up to our +6 TO ratio, which would average to a +2 per game (duh ). In comparison, the leader last year in TO differential were the Patriots who had a +28 over 16 games, thus averaging +1,75 per game.
I am NOT saying we can keep these averages up, I think they will go down over the course of the season. But still, this an excellent start
24000+ defensive TO's?!? Holy shizzle!!! BEST DEFENSE EVER!!!
Ugh, the different-country decimal mark rears it´s ugly head…
Sorry about that, I live in Europe and we use the comma as a decimal mark separator (well, everyone of us except those Englishmen ) and the point for thousands separator. I forgot that the US does is exactly the other way around, so please treat the comma as a point and vice versa for US citizen.
Heck, even in Madden you would need to cheat in Rookie to put up 24000 defensive TO
Sep 30, 2011 at 1:11 PM
- Niners99
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dont we have only 1 pick and 1 fumble? the only ones i can think of are Smith's INT in week 2, and Millers fumble last week.
Sep 30, 2011 at 1:16 PM
- TheRickestRick
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Originally posted by Niners99:
dont we have only 1 pick and 1 fumble? the only ones i can think of are Smith's INT in week 2, and Millers fumble last week.
Gores fumble last week, Millers was recovered by someone on our line.
Sep 30, 2011 at 1:16 PM
- Memphis9er
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Originally posted by Niners99:
dont we have only 1 pick and 1 fumble? the only ones i can think of are Smith's INT in week 2, and Millers fumble last week.
Gore fumbled not Miller.
Sep 30, 2011 at 1:19 PM
- PRIMUS151
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Offense needs to step it up and we'll be straight..
Sep 30, 2011 at 1:22 PM
- NoOffseason
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Originally posted by Niners99:
dont we have only 1 pick and 1 fumble? the only ones i can think of are Smith's INT in week 2, and Millers fumble last week.
Yeah, one INT and one lost fumble. But I think that one was the one Frank Gore lost against the Bengals last week where we held them to a field goal in the red zone. The NFL.com stats say we had four fumbles in total, the Gore one, the one from Miller, I think one fumbled snap that Alex fell on for a short sack and there must be another one that I already forgot. Now I think statistically, losing or recovering a fumble is somewhat around a 50-50 chance so mathematically, we came out a little bit lucky, but we still took good care of the ball overall, as for Fumbles overall (including lost and recovered ones) is a good, NFL-middle-of-the-pack number. Combined with our so far excellent defensive turnover ratio, this gives us the surprising best TO ratio in the league right now.
Sep 30, 2011 at 1:30 PM
- Godsleftsock
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Originally posted by NoOffseason:Originally posted by Niners99:dont we have only 1 pick and 1 fumble? the only ones i can think of are Smith's INT in week 2, and Millers fumble last week.
Yeah, one INT and one lost fumble. But I think that one was the one Frank Gore lost against the Bengals last week where we held them to a field goal in the red zone. The NFL.com stats say we had four fumbles in total, the Gore one, the one from Miller, I think one fumbled snap that Alex fell on for a short sack and there must be another one that I already forgot. Now I think statistically, losing or recovering a fumble is somewhat around a 50-50 chance so mathematically, we came out a little bit lucky, but we still took good care of the ball overall, as for Fumbles overall (including lost and recovered ones) is a good, NFL-middle-of-the-pack number. Combined with our so far excellent defensive turnover ratio, this gives us the surprising best TO ratio in the league right now.
Maybe the shotgun snap over Alex's head counts as a fumble
Sep 30, 2011 at 1:54 PM
- verb1der
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Here's a surprising stat...
According to STATS, Inc., Smith ranks third in the NFL against the blitz this season with a 143.1 passer rating.
championship?
According to STATS, Inc., Smith ranks third in the NFL against the blitz this season with a 143.1 passer rating.
championship?
Sep 30, 2011 at 1:58 PM
- insanemike27
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i believe we are actually tied for first place with Detroit with a 6+