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Jim Harbaugh's halftime adjustments
Sep 20, 2011 at 10:43 AM
- smashmouth51
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Since Mooch our coaches have been lousy at making halftime adjustments. A 2 half game plan guys??? Anticipate during the week adjustments that you yhink the other team will make and be ready to counter. This reminds me of Sing/Jimmy. I don't think they even knew what adjustments were. Gee, you could even practice a few of the anticipated adjustment plays during the week. Wow, I wonder if that would improve our play. Ditto for the defense.
Sep 20, 2011 at 10:45 AM
- Joecool
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I don't see us winning very many games if we keep up the no adjustments at halftime. Harbaugh has chosen to play defense first in each game so far. Is he running the 15 play script at the beginning of the 3rd quarter or something?
Sep 20, 2011 at 10:54 AM
- MadDog49er
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This was my point after the game. The "taking the points" instead of the first down is a secondary issue to me. The other teams are making adjustments, and we can't counter them well. Something to keep an eye on this year.
Sep 20, 2011 at 10:54 AM
- BETTERDAYZ9ERS
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Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Sacks killed us. Especially the one by Ratliff in OT. Gore had just ripped off 6-7 yards on first down then Alex gets sacked by Ratliff on Second down and loses 8 making it 3rd and 11. Alex throws to Ginn for 10 yards but then the call reversed to incomplete. We all know what happened after that.
We had a 2nd and 4 and had to punt in OT
This is the one I'm talking about right here. Barrows breaks it down and notes that we as an offense just can not overcome negative plays.
13:52
2nd & 3 SF 39: the 49ers had just picked up a combined 19 yards on a pass to Ted Ginn and a run by Gore. The Cowboys had just scored on their last two drives to send the game to overtime, and there was no way the 49ers could take a negative play and give the ball back. The Cowboys rush five, but Ware breaks off his rush to cover Gore, to whom Smith wants to check down. Meanwhile, nose tackle Jay Ratliff turns center Jonathan Goodwin's shoulders and charges toward Smith. Smith is locked into his left where there is no one open. If he turns to his right, he'd find receiver Joshua Morgan all alone.
-- Matt Barrows
Read more: http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2011/09/six-sacks-breaking-down-the-breakdowns.html#ixzz1YW5AtAvR
Sep 20, 2011 at 11:08 AM
- Joecool
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Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Sacks killed us. Especially the one by Ratliff in OT. Gore had just ripped off 6-7 yards on first down then Alex gets sacked by Ratliff on Second down and loses 8 making it 3rd and 11. Alex throws to Ginn for 10 yards but then the call reversed to incomplete. We all know what happened after that.
We had a 2nd and 4 and had to punt in OT
This is the one I'm talking about right here. Barrows breaks it down and notes that we as an offense just can not overcome negative plays.
13:52
2nd & 3 SF 39: the 49ers had just picked up a combined 19 yards on a pass to Ted Ginn and a run by Gore. The Cowboys had just scored on their last two drives to send the game to overtime, and there was no way the 49ers could take a negative play and give the ball back. The Cowboys rush five, but Ware breaks off his rush to cover Gore, to whom Smith wants to check down. Meanwhile, nose tackle Jay Ratliff turns center Jonathan Goodwin's shoulders and charges toward Smith. Smith is locked into his left where there is no one open. If he turns to his right, he'd find receiver Joshua Morgan all alone.
-- Matt Barrows
Read more: http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2011/09/six-sacks-breaking-down-the-breakdowns.html#ixzz1YW5AtAvR
He didn't even check down to Gore. He immediately looked to Gore as a first option. It was a misread by Alex and a great cover by Ware.
Sep 20, 2011 at 11:19 AM
- aTx49er
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Sacks killed us. Especially the one by Ratliff in OT. Gore had just ripped off 6-7 yards on first down then Alex gets sacked by Ratliff on Second down and loses 8 making it 3rd and 11. Alex throws to Ginn for 10 yards but then the call reversed to incomplete. We all know what happened after that.
We had a 2nd and 4 and had to punt in OT
This is the one I'm talking about right here. Barrows breaks it down and notes that we as an offense just can not overcome negative plays.
13:52
2nd & 3 SF 39: the 49ers had just picked up a combined 19 yards on a pass to Ted Ginn and a run by Gore. The Cowboys had just scored on their last two drives to send the game to overtime, and there was no way the 49ers could take a negative play and give the ball back. The Cowboys rush five, but Ware breaks off his rush to cover Gore, to whom Smith wants to check down. Meanwhile, nose tackle Jay Ratliff turns center Jonathan Goodwin's shoulders and charges toward Smith. Smith is locked into his left where there is no one open. If he turns to his right, he'd find receiver Joshua Morgan all alone.
-- Matt Barrows
Read more: http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2011/09/six-sacks-breaking-down-the-breakdowns.html#ixzz1YW5AtAvR
He didn't even check down to Gore. He immediately looked to Gore as a first option. It was a misread by Alex and a great cover by Ware.
Gore obviously was the first option. Ware faked that he was going to rush, then peeled off and went into coverage. By this point Ratliff already beat Goodwin and was bearing down on Smith.
Sep 20, 2011 at 11:23 AM
- DonnieDarko
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up 16-0 and 14-7 at halftime, the pressure is on the other team to make adjustments
Sep 20, 2011 at 11:25 AM
- Joecool
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Originally posted by aTx49er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Sacks killed us. Especially the one by Ratliff in OT. Gore had just ripped off 6-7 yards on first down then Alex gets sacked by Ratliff on Second down and loses 8 making it 3rd and 11. Alex throws to Ginn for 10 yards but then the call reversed to incomplete. We all know what happened after that.
We had a 2nd and 4 and had to punt in OT
This is the one I'm talking about right here. Barrows breaks it down and notes that we as an offense just can not overcome negative plays.
13:52
2nd & 3 SF 39: the 49ers had just picked up a combined 19 yards on a pass to Ted Ginn and a run by Gore. The Cowboys had just scored on their last two drives to send the game to overtime, and there was no way the 49ers could take a negative play and give the ball back. The Cowboys rush five, but Ware breaks off his rush to cover Gore, to whom Smith wants to check down. Meanwhile, nose tackle Jay Ratliff turns center Jonathan Goodwin's shoulders and charges toward Smith. Smith is locked into his left where there is no one open. If he turns to his right, he'd find receiver Joshua Morgan all alone.
-- Matt Barrows
Read more: http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2011/09/six-sacks-breaking-down-the-breakdowns.html#ixzz1YW5AtAvR
He didn't even check down to Gore. He immediately looked to Gore as a first option. It was a misread by Alex and a great cover by Ware.
Gore obviously was the first option. Ware faked that he was going to rush, then peeled off and went into coverage. By this point Ratliff already beat Goodwin and was bearing down on Smith.
Which is why he didn't read the defense correctly presnap. Morgan was the hot route on this play and Alex should have read that. Not saying it is easy but if there is a blame here it is Alex. He has been very good at making the right reads and he can't make them all, so I'm not mad. BUT, it was a critical moment and he didn't come through. We have seen this many times.
Sep 20, 2011 at 11:25 AM
- gamechanger
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
up 16-0 and 14-7 at halftime, the pressure is on the other team to make adjustments
Yeah but we need to make adjustments to go for the kill.
Sep 20, 2011 at 11:26 AM
- Joecool
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Originally posted by gamechanger:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
up 16-0 and 14-7 at halftime, the pressure is on the other team to make adjustments
Yeah but we need to make adjustments to go for the kill.
We did score 7 in the 3rd quarter to match DAL 7 points. Then DAL got a huge sigh of relief when we declined that penalty and it was downhill from there.
Sep 20, 2011 at 11:31 AM
- OptimusPrime52
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Which is why he didn't read the defense correctly presnap. Morgan was the hot route on this play and Alex should have read that. Not saying it is easy but if there is a blame here it is Alex. He has been very good at making the right reads and he can't make them all, so I'm not mad. BUT, it was a critical moment and he didn't come through. We have seen this many times.
do you have any idea what you are talking about? what do you mean alex didnt know where the hot route was. the qb is the one that calls the hot route out presnap. you act as if hot routes are just built into the play and the qb has to read it. uh, no....
Sep 20, 2011 at 11:33 AM
- Joecool
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Originally posted by OptimusPrime52:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Which is why he didn't read the defense correctly presnap. Morgan was the hot route on this play and Alex should have read that. Not saying it is easy but if there is a blame here it is Alex. He has been very good at making the right reads and he can't make them all, so I'm not mad. BUT, it was a critical moment and he didn't come through. We have seen this many times.
do you have any idea what you are talking about? what do you mean alex didnt know where the hot route was. the qb is the one that calls the hot route out presnap. you act as if hot routes are just built into the play and the qb has to read it. uh, no....
So you are saying he made the right decision to throw to Gore when Morgan was wide open? Hot route or not, he made the incorrect read.
Sep 20, 2011 at 11:42 AM
- OptimusPrime52
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by OptimusPrime52:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Which is why he didn't read the defense correctly presnap. Morgan was the hot route on this play and Alex should have read that. Not saying it is easy but if there is a blame here it is Alex. He has been very good at making the right reads and he can't make them all, so I'm not mad. BUT, it was a critical moment and he didn't come through. We have seen this many times.
do you have any idea what you are talking about? what do you mean alex didnt know where the hot route was. the qb is the one that calls the hot route out presnap. you act as if hot routes are just built into the play and the qb has to read it. uh, no....
So you are saying he made the right decision to throw to Gore when Morgan was wide open? Hot route or not, he made the incorrect read.
first of all, he didnt get to throw the ball to anyone because he was planted on his butt yet again. 2nd, he wasnt able to make a read because his oline failed to do its job. 3rd, in order to make a read you have to throw the damn ball first, otherwise you are still reading the defense and going through your progressions. so if you dont have time to read the defense then you cant finish making a read on it. do you even watch the games or read the posts you respond to? you are way out in left field dude, you need a vacation.
[ Edited by OptimusPrime52 on Sep 20, 2011 at 11:43 AM ]
Sep 20, 2011 at 12:02 PM
- Joecool
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Originally posted by OptimusPrime52:He didn't make the throw because he held it up when he saw Ware peal out. QB's in the league repeatedly make a quick catch and throw with barely taking a step on a drop. Alex doesn't have the ability to do this and he has never shown he has it. It's not an easy throw but let us face it, our QB is limited.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by OptimusPrime52:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Which is why he didn't read the defense correctly presnap. Morgan was the hot route on this play and Alex should have read that. Not saying it is easy but if there is a blame here it is Alex. He has been very good at making the right reads and he can't make them all, so I'm not mad. BUT, it was a critical moment and he didn't come through. We have seen this many times.
do you have any idea what you are talking about? what do you mean alex didnt know where the hot route was. the qb is the one that calls the hot route out presnap. you act as if hot routes are just built into the play and the qb has to read it. uh, no....
So you are saying he made the right decision to throw to Gore when Morgan was wide open? Hot route or not, he made the incorrect read.
first of all, he didnt get to throw the ball to anyone because he was planted on his butt yet again. 2nd, he wasnt able to make a read because his oline failed to do its job. 3rd, in order to make a read you have to throw the damn ball first, otherwise you are still reading the defense and going through your progressions. so if you dont have time to read the defense then you cant finish making a read on it. do you even watch the games or read the posts you respond to? you are way out in left field dude, you need a vacation.
Sep 20, 2011 at 12:06 PM
- susweel
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Originally posted by Joecool:
He didn't make the throw because he held it up when he saw Ware peal out. QB's in the league repeatedly make a quick catch and throw with barely taking a step on a drop. Alex doesn't have the ability to do this and he has never shown he has it. It's not an easy throw but let us face it, our QB is limited.
I think everyone pretty much agrees on this now.