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Originally posted by Shaj:
Patience is for complacent federal govt employees, not the NFL. The Panthers didn't need to be patient with Cam, the Rams didn't need to be patient with Bradford, the Bengals didn't need to be patient with Andy Dalton, the Steelers didn't need to be patient with Big Ben, the Ravens didn't need to be patient with Flacco... should I keep going? Bottom line is, good QBs can play well with mediocre environments and bad QBs need EVERYTHING to be right just to be mediocre or at best slightly above average. Wake up and raise your expectations to what is happening in the rest of the NFL. We are in year SEVEN of a failed experiment, people.

You just do not get it, you fail time and time again to grasp the differences in the situations. Keep thinking in that narrow minded way, I am done trying to reason with you. Your whole line of reasoning is a seven year failure.
Originally posted by Shaj:
In two games, ROOKIE Andy Dalton, who went to one of the most dysfunctional teams in the league, ranks No. 8 in the NFL in passer rating (105.7)

What's his excuse, and why is he better than Alex Smith in year 7? We'll find out this Sunday. If Andy was our QB and stunk it up, we'd have every excuse in the book ready for him, but he went to a worse team and is lighting it up so far.

Watching all these QBs come out of college to the worst teams in the league (like Smith did) and just flat out play is getting irritating. No wonder I'm so pissed about this slow learning, inaccurate, hesitant, and non-instinctual player we have at QB for the last 7 years and counting.
Wait... so when another QB's rating is higher, he is better than Smith, but when Smith's rating is higher it is because of short passes/lack of trust/dump offs/poor D/etc/etc.? That seems like a double standard.

Shaj - Smith's piss poor rookie year was far too long ago. Let it go, man!
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by Shaj:
In two games, ROOKIE Andy Dalton, who went to one of the most dysfunctional teams in the league, ranks No. 8 in the NFL in passer rating (105.7)

What's his excuse, and why is he better than Alex Smith in year 7? We'll find out this Sunday. If Andy was our QB and stunk it up, we'd have every excuse in the book ready for him, but he went to a worse team and is lighting it up so far.

Watching all these QBs come out of college to the worst teams in the league (like Smith did) and just flat out play is getting irritating. No wonder I'm so pissed about this slow learning, inaccurate, hesitant, and non-instinctual player we have at QB for the last 7 years and counting.
Wait... so when another QB's rating is higher, he is better than Smith, but when Smith's rating is higher it is because of short passes/lack of trust/dump offs/poor D/etc/etc.? That seems like a double standard.

Shaj - Smith's piss poor rookie year was far too long ago. Let it go, man!

As an excellence lover I agree with this post
Originally posted by SanFranMan:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
why wont this thred f**king die

I'll handle it.


It needs to die.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by Shaj:
Patience is for complacent federal govt employees, not the NFL. The Panthers didn't need to be patient with Cam, the Rams didn't need to be patient with Bradford, the Bengals didn't need to be patient with Andy Dalton, the Steelers didn't need to be patient with Big Ben, the Ravens didn't need to be patient with Flacco... should I keep going? Bottom line is, good QBs can play well with mediocre environments and bad QBs need EVERYTHING to be right just to be mediocre or at best slightly above average. Wake up and raise your expectations to what is happening in the rest of the NFL. We are in year SEVEN of a failed experiment, people.

You just do not get it, you fail time and time again to grasp the differences in the situations. Keep thinking in that narrow minded way, I am done trying to reason with you. Your whole line of reasoning is a seven year failure.

Panthers, Rams, and Bengals? What's the difference? And at the time, ATL didn't really have offensive talent and neither did BAL. BAL's best WR was Mason.

Coaching? McCarthy and Turner. Smith should have picked some things up. Oh wait, they restricted him to very little but those other QB's weren't restricted. Why was that?
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by Shaj:
In two games, ROOKIE Andy Dalton, who went to one of the most dysfunctional teams in the league, ranks No. 8 in the NFL in passer rating (105.7)

What's his excuse, and why is he better than Alex Smith in year 7? We'll find out this Sunday. If Andy was our QB and stunk it up, we'd have every excuse in the book ready for him, but he went to a worse team and is lighting it up so far.

Watching all these QBs come out of college to the worst teams in the league (like Smith did) and just flat out play is getting irritating. No wonder I'm so pissed about this slow learning, inaccurate, hesitant, and non-instinctual player we have at QB for the last 7 years and counting.
Wait... so when another QB's rating is higher, he is better than Smith, but when Smith's rating is higher it is because of short passes/lack of trust/dump offs/poor D/etc/etc.? That seems like a double standard.

Shaj - Smith's piss poor rookie year was far too long ago. Let it go, man!

As an excellence lover I agree with this post

Screw you guys. I'm going to Olive Garden.
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Screw you guys. I'm going to Olive Garden.

do you just PM your reservation or did Shaj give you his #?
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Screw you guys. I'm going to Olive Garden.

do you just PM your reservation or did Shaj give you his #?

PM. You're on the list, too.
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Screw you guys. I'm going to Olive Garden.

do you just PM your reservation or did Shaj give you his #?

PM. You're on the list, too.
no bread sticks for me! I'm watching my carb intake.
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Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Screw you guys. I'm going to Olive Garden.














But seriously, would you like to sit at a booth or a table? PM around 15 mins before you arrive please.
[ Edited by Shaj on Sep 23, 2011 at 11:47 AM ]
Originally posted by Shaj:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Screw you guys. I'm going to Olive Garden.














But seriously, would you like to sit at a booth or a table? PM around 15 mins before you arrive please.

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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by Shaj:
Patience is for complacent federal govt employees, not the NFL. The Panthers didn't need to be patient with Cam, the Rams didn't need to be patient with Bradford, the Bengals didn't need to be patient with Andy Dalton, the Steelers didn't need to be patient with Big Ben, the Ravens didn't need to be patient with Flacco... should I keep going? Bottom line is, good QBs can play well with mediocre environments and bad QBs need EVERYTHING to be right just to be mediocre or at best slightly above average. Wake up and raise your expectations to what is happening in the rest of the NFL. We are in year SEVEN of a failed experiment, people.

You just do not get it, you fail time and time again to grasp the differences in the situations. Keep thinking in that narrow minded way, I am done trying to reason with you. Your whole line of reasoning is a seven year failure.

Panthers, Rams, and Bengals? What's the difference? And at the time, ATL didn't really have offensive talent and neither did BAL. BAL's best WR was Mason.

Coaching? McCarthy and Turner. Smith should have picked some things up. Oh wait, they restricted him to very little but those other QB's weren't restricted. Why was that?

It's incredible that we are arguing with people who are justifying failure. I always feel like I'm on candid camera when I have this sort of discussion. It's so surreal.
Originally posted by Shaj:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by Shaj:
Patience is for complacent federal govt employees, not the NFL. The Panthers didn't need to be patient with Cam, the Rams didn't need to be patient with Bradford, the Bengals didn't need to be patient with Andy Dalton, the Steelers didn't need to be patient with Big Ben, the Ravens didn't need to be patient with Flacco... should I keep going? Bottom line is, good QBs can play well with mediocre environments and bad QBs need EVERYTHING to be right just to be mediocre or at best slightly above average. Wake up and raise your expectations to what is happening in the rest of the NFL. We are in year SEVEN of a failed experiment, people.

You just do not get it, you fail time and time again to grasp the differences in the situations. Keep thinking in that narrow minded way, I am done trying to reason with you. Your whole line of reasoning is a seven year failure.

Panthers, Rams, and Bengals? What's the difference? And at the time, ATL didn't really have offensive talent and neither did BAL. BAL's best WR was Mason.

Coaching? McCarthy and Turner. Smith should have picked some things up. Oh wait, they restricted him to very little but those other QB's weren't restricted. Why was that?

It's incredible that we are arguing with people who are justifying failure. I always feel like I'm on candid camera when I have this sort of discussion. It's so surreal.

You geared up to storm 49ers Headquarters yet?
I don't see why the thinking with Alex is "he needs more around him and you will see".

It should be, "Alex needs to prove everyone wrong perfect situation or not"

The italics is why alexcuses came about. By now, it's on Alex to prove us wrong, not on us to wait and see.
Originally posted by Joecool:
I don't see why the thinking with Alex is "he needs more around him and you will see".

It should be, "Alex needs to prove everyone wrong perfect situation or not"

The italics is why alexcuses came about. By now, it's on Alex to prove us wrong, not on us to wait and see.

Well... you could wait and see for him to prove you wrong.

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