Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by Shaj:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by Shaj:
it's double standards is all it is. When other QBs do well, it's because their teammates are HOF bound, or their defense is devestating, or they played inept teams. When Smith plays well, it's because he is finally in a situation where he personally can strut his stuff. However, if he plays bad, then it's back on coaching and his teammates. Smith is the teflon kid! Nothing sticks to him...
See my last post, it really isn't worth arguing about anymore,Smith is the qb, he is the only one we hapve that gives us any chance to win. You have already admitted that he is playing better, why start with this again? I have heard you are a good guy from people I trust on here that know you and have no interest in getting into a heated argument over something that is been discussed and debated until there is nothing left to say on the subject. Let's just root for the guy until he's not in a niner uniform anymore, that won't hurt anyone, and it will keep the drama to a minimum. It is quite obvious to any reasonable person that Smith is not a problem this year.
I'm frustrated that other QBs can land in the NFL in bad situations and play well and we haven't had that here since Jeff Garcia left. I'm further frustrated that fans tolerate this and make excuses to somehow justify this situation.
That's more of an internal issue with you not being able to accept that there are more factors in the equation than just Smith. He has not been the sole, of even main reason this team has struggled. We have had owners with no clue hiring coaches with no clue trying to teach a qb with skill but no clue. Now we have owners that are starting to figure it out that have hired a coach that is known for grooming qb talent and it is showing results. I know it is a lot to ask, but if Joe Montana says have some motherf**kin patience, you gotta have some motherf**kin patience.
Said it perfectly Memphis. Now lets not get crazy. Since he's been here, he hasnt been the sole reason we havent worked out. At times a part of the problem, so not gonna sugarcoat. Since he's been here, i can give you at least 3 to 5 games every season that we fell apart in the end. The issue that I like with other teams, is that they all seemed to maximize their players potential right away. Best example i like is, S. Bradford. Last year with the Rams everyone was like how good he was, but failed to see that most his yards game on the quick short throws, not deep balls. Just pretty good YAC. Which regardless of who was our QB was since T.O was here, our WR's never seem to have any. And we've had a ton of QB's since then.
I havent seen too many teams that have a lead on a SB winning team, and just crumble in the few minutes left. I've seen most of a fair balance, just like the Jets with Sanchez. His first year, the Jets were no 1 on running and in defense. So imagine if he came here, and he didnt have either. Might not see the same Sanchez. As I said, I'm not making any excuses as to the overthrows, underthrows, bonhead INT's etc. But at the same time, every Qb makes some of the same mistakes that he does, but with him a lot of the time, most feel the throws should be perfect. I think the WR helps the QB look good, and vice versa.
Overall, as a team, the difference is regardless of who our QB is, the SF 49ers always manage to shoot themselves in the foot, and if not on offense, then defense, if not either than special teams. Give me one game, where they are all clicking on all cylinders, and i bet we'd be a force to be reckoned with.