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Originally posted by Whomeam:
Originally posted by Shorteous:
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
The only reason he wouldnt be throwing the football at the time the picture is taken is because Alex is often too quick to dump the ball off. Like I have been saying, Alex needs to learn to throw receivers open. If he floats the ball to the back of the endzone, either Crabtree catches it, or its overthrown incomplete. Instead of doing this, he dumps the ball off too early. An article I read earlier says Alex often "sees ghosts" (as in sees pressure that isnt really there). Since we agree that Alex probably didnt see the pressure from behind, his decision to dump the ball to Gore was most likely based on the pass rushers in front of him that werent really all that close. No other reason to not let the play develop longer. Crabtree catches a touchdown pass on this play with a large percentage of NFL starting QBs.

Your the last one to be telling Alex where to throw the ball after that Vernon had a few steps and Alex threw an accidental back shoulder throw debacle.
Hahahaha what? Where was I for this argument? Vernon was draped on that play.

Ya it was absolutely ridicules, especially when he insisted it was an accidental back shoulder throw.

I have mentioned on multiple occasions that I withdrew the word "accidental." That was a poor choice of words, but whatever keep dwelling on it.

Once again, I still maintain the position that the throw was late and thrown to a place that, although worked, was not the best place it could have been. When Alex first started to scramble, Vernon had a step and a half on the defender, and if the ball was delivered on time and in front of him, it would have resulted in a touchdown.

Yes, the play worked. Yes we gained positive yardage. But the play could have been a touchdown.

Your mind is made up though. In spite of the fact that a better pass could have resulted in a touchdown, it was still a good play.
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
I have mentioned on multiple occasions that I withdrew the word "accidental." That was a poor choice of words, but whatever keep dwelling on it.

Once again, I still maintain the position that the throw was late and thrown to a place that, although worked, was not the best place it could have been. When Alex first started to scramble, Vernon had a step and a half on the defender, and if the ball was delivered on time and in front of him, it would have resulted in a touchdown.

Yes, the play worked. Yes we gained positive yardage. But the play could have been a touchdown.

Your mind is made up though. In spite of the fact that a better pass could have resulted in a touchdown, it was still a good play.

Oh man, Curry had him cut off, there was no way that was a touchdown, there was a safety closing on him too. That was a back shoulder throw that good QB's make all the time. Smith can make the good throws just like any other QB, his problems are mental, inconsistency and overly cautious. It is not like the guy cannot make very good throws from time to time, he has done it before throughout his career, just not consistently. He already looks more confident this year and had all around better mechanics, Harbaugh is coaching him up. We will see once and for all if Smith can be anything more than a mediocre gimmick QB.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Oh man, Curry had him cut off, there was no way that was a touchdown, there was a safety closing on him too. That was a back shoulder throw that good QB's make all the time. Smith can make the good throws just like any other QB, his problems are mental, inconsistency and overly cautious. It is not like the guy cannot make very good throws from time to time, he has done it before throughout his career, just not consistently. He already looks more confident this year and had all around better mechanics, Harbaugh is coaching him up. We will see once and for all if Smith can be anything more than a mediocre gimmick QB.


Good post! His problems may be more developmental than mental, as the schemes and coaching over the past four or five years has been bad. His first two years he had decent OCs who helped him, but after that is a mess. Someone in another thread mentioned how little effort went into developing a 40 million dollar asset. Not good business strategy.

I agree completely that this is his best chance ever to maximize his ability. If he doesn't then I will be disappointed, but it my belief that he will be a very good QB working with Harbaugh...just don't know about a championship calibre QB.
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Sep 16, 2011 at 6:43 PM ]
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Good post! His problems may be more developmental than mental, as the schemes and coaching over the past four or five years has been bad. Hi first two years he had decent OCs who helped him, but after that is a mess. Someone in another thread mentioned how little effort went into developing a 40 million dollar asset. Not good business strategy.

I agree completely that this is his best chance ever to maximize his ability. If he doesn't then I will be disappointed, but it my belief that he will be a very good QB working with Harbaugh...just don't know about a championship calibre QB.
Our team isn't championship caliber till we can continue to upgrade our secondary.
Originally posted by unst4bl3:
Our team isn't championship caliber till we can continue to upgrade our secondary.


Wouldn't be surprised if they use a couple of high picks next year as well as bringing in FAs. It seems to be the area, aside from receivers, that needs to be improved.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Wouldn't be surprised if they use a couple of high picks next year as well as bringing in FAs. It seems to be the area, aside from receivers, that needs to be improved.

I agree. I'd love it if we drafted/traded/signed someone to be our #1 DB, and let rodgers be our #2 until culliver is good enough, or let culliver play FS, since Reggie smith, and goldson aren't the best.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Good post! His problems may be more developmental than mental, as the schemes and coaching over the past four or five years has been bad. His first two years he had decent OCs who helped him, but after that is a mess. Someone in another thread mentioned how little effort went into developing a 40 million dollar asset. Not good business strategy.

I agree completely that this is his best chance ever to maximize his ability. If he doesn't then I will be disappointed, but it my belief that he will be a very good QB working with Harbaugh...just don't know about a championship calibre QB.

I agree with the developmental part, by mental I meant he thinks too much sometimes. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if he became a solid 90+ QBR type guy and we could spend some time teaching the young guys how to play in the NFL.
Just imagine the over-analysis if Smith throws a pick this week.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by unst4bl3:
Our team isn't championship caliber till we can continue to upgrade our secondary.


Wouldn't be surprised if they use a couple of high picks next year as well as bringing in FAs. It seems to be the area, aside from receivers, that needs to be improved.

It has been widely reported that the 49er draft room went ballistic when AZ picked Peterson. So, yes, I believe that the secondary will be the top priority next spring.
Originally posted by smithgdwg:
Just imagine the over-analysis if Smith throws a pick this week.

1 pick = 4 threads
Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
Originally posted by smithgdwg:
Just imagine the over-analysis if Smith throws a pick this week.

1 pick = 4 threads


I'll take the over!
This thread. Just wow. It's too much. I don't think I can read any more of the stuff posted in here, it's giving me a headache. Some people are just out of their minds with some of the things I've heard said that have absolutely zero -- and I do mean zero -- supporting evidence. This goes for a ton of people, on both sides of what I see is clearly a pointless argument happening between folks here.

Sunday just needs to get here. I want this thread to just go away. I know it's such a long shot, but I pray we somehow exit that game with a win and nothing to complain about...
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
This thread. Just wow. It's too much. I don't think I can read any more of the stuff posted in here, it's giving me a headache. Some people are just out of their minds with some of the things I've heard said that have absolutely zero -- and I do mean zero -- supporting evidence. This goes for a ton of people, on both sides of what I see is clearly a pointless argument happening between folks here.

Sunday just needs to get here. I want this thread to just go away. I know it's such a long shot, but I pray we somehow exit that game with a win and nothing to complain about...
That is asking WAAAY too much for the zone.

We could win 56-0, and we will still have a poster whining about some play during the game that could have been done better.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
This thread. Just wow. It's too much. I don't think I can read any more of the stuff posted in here, it's giving me a headache. Some people are just out of their minds with some of the things I've heard said that have absolutely zero -- and I do mean zero -- supporting evidence. This goes for a ton of people, on both sides of what I see is clearly a pointless argument happening between folks here.

Sunday just needs to get here. I want this thread to just go away. I know it's such a long shot, but I pray we somehow exit that game with a win and nothing to complain about...

There will be threads like this every week.
Originally posted by smithgdwg:
That is asking WAAAY too much for the zone.

We could win 56-0, and we will still have a poster whining about some play during the game that could have been done better.

And I'd hope harbaltary would not settle even if we won 56-0, Id hope he would find something we needed to improve on.