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Originally posted by valrod33:

Isnt Crabtree still to the side of VD there? and there is a defender on him at the point. Alex would have had to stay looking to the left a little bit longer to see Crabtree break free from whoever was on him. The TD was there but Alex needed to stay looking to the left side and who knows what the defenders would have done if he stayed on the left side of the field or if Clemons would have sacked him.

I still have no problem with the checkdown

Crabtree is being jammed then released by the linebacker somewhere in pic 1 and 2. Alex could have looked left, looked right, stepped up, look middle, throw. He had time.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
Honestly...Gore was the safer decision. COULD HE have thrown it in that "spot?" Yeah maybe. But if he gets picked off then we're all having a different discussion so what's the point. The 3rd picture pretty much shows Alex already made up his mind (he's winding up). The 2nd picture shows he LOOKED over there and saw something he didn't like.

So could have taken the chance? Yes. But really..who cares, we won.

Alex: "Didn't risk, lol."

It was too safe of a decision. The blocking was good AND he had room to step up to allow Gore to be the 3rd read.

Fair enough. I just think its pointless to debate. It's to be expected from a guy who's had his shoulder blown up twice, boo'd, b***hed out for making mistakes, etc.

And frankly, I just don't really trust Alex to make risky throws. He tried it a little in 2009 and 2010 and sometimes it works...but when it doesnt...holy dog s**t....the offense completely implodes. (See: SF vs Eagles 2009, SF vs Titans 2009, SF vs Eagles 2010, SF vs Seahawks game 1 2010).

Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W30acTyVsvo&feature=player_embedded#!

Highlights for the game... Watch Smith and some of his throws and decisions he makes. Even the announcers give him props.

Maybe instead of judging one throw we as a fan base can look at the whole picture.

Great idea!!!

Here's the big picture for Alex Smith:

22 - 36 career win/loss record
72.4 career passer rating
300 yard games: two (as I recall)
# of Playoff appearances: ZERO

any questions?

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:

Originally posted by valrod33:
Isnt Crabtree still to the side of VD there? and there is a defender on him at the point. Alex would have had to stay looking to the left a little bit longer to see Crabtree break free from whoever was on him. The TD was there but Alex needed to stay looking to the left side and who knows what the defenders would have done if he stayed on the left side of the field or if Clemons would have sacked him.

I still have no problem with the checkdown

Crabtree is being jammed then released by the linebacker somewhere in pic 1 and 2. Alex could have looked left, looked right, stepped up, look middle, throw. He had time.

lol he didnt not have time to do all that. Clemons is right there. What he should have done is stayed looking to the left and trusting that Crabtree would be open. He didnt have that trust and went to the checkdown.

Originally posted by Shaj:

Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W30acTyVsvo&feature=player_embedded#!

Highlights for the game... Watch Smith and some of his throws and decisions he makes. Even the announcers give him props.

Maybe instead of judging one throw we as a fan base can look at the whole picture.

Great idea!!!

Here's the big picture for Alex Smith:

22 - 36 career win/loss record
72.4 career passer rating

any questions?

124 yards passing 0 TDs and missing wide open players in the endzone.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by valrod33:
Isnt Crabtree still to the side of VD there? and there is a defender on him at the point. Alex would have had to stay looking to the left a little bit longer to see Crabtree break free from whoever was on him. The TD was there but Alex needed to stay looking to the left side and who knows what the defenders would have done if he stayed on the left side of the field or if Clemons would have sacked him.

I still have no problem with the checkdown

Not necessarily. Although this is far above the ability level of Alex Smith, he would only need to see that MLB and the DB on Vernon and the space in the End Zone and make a blind throw.

The other thing is that he has very solid blocking and could have waited prior to checking down. He even rushed the throw on the check down and was inaccurate throwing it to Gore's outside shoulder where he had to reach for the ball when the open space is in the middle.

Totally erroneous. Go watch the play in real time.

I left for a week and this facking thread is still goin

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Shaj:

Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W30acTyVsvo&feature=player_embedded#!

Highlights for the game... Watch Smith and some of his throws and decisions he makes. Even the announcers give him props.

Maybe instead of judging one throw we as a fan base can look at the whole picture.

Great idea!!!

Here's the big picture for Alex Smith:

22 - 36 career win/loss record
72.4 career passer rating

any questions?

124 yards passing 0 TDs and missing wide open players in the endzone.

I also added he has only two 300 yard passing games (and it might be one, I'm going off of memory) and he has ZERO playoff appearances.

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Isnt Crabtree still to the side of VD there? and there is a defender on him at the point. Alex would have had to stay looking to the left a little bit longer to see Crabtree break free from whoever was on him. The TD was there but Alex needed to stay looking to the left side and who knows what the defenders would have done if he stayed on the left side of the field or if Clemons would have sacked him.

I still have no problem with the checkdown

Crabtree is being jammed then released by the linebacker somewhere in pic 1 and 2. Alex could have looked left, looked right, stepped up, look middle, throw. He had time.

lol he didnt not have time to do all that. Clemons is right there. What he should have done is stayed looking to the left and trusting that Crabtree would be open. He didnt have that trust and went to the checkdown.

It's not like that would have taken 6 seconds to do. An extra .5 seconds to a second. The step up would have been key. Clemons was not on a missile trajectory to Alex.

Originally posted by Shaj:
I also added he has only two 300 yard passing games (and it might be one, I'm going off of memory) and he has ZERO playoff appearances.

None that I can remember but who knows maybe someone will say its team game when we lose but when we win its because of his 124 yards passing..

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Shaj:

Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W30acTyVsvo&feature=player_embedded#!

Highlights for the game... Watch Smith and some of his throws and decisions he makes. Even the announcers give him props.

Maybe instead of judging one throw we as a fan base can look at the whole picture.

Great idea!!!

Here's the big picture for Alex Smith:

22 - 36 career win/loss record
72.4 career passer rating

any questions?

124 yards passing 0 TDs and missing wide open players in the endzone.

Could you guys at least say those were good throws? Listen to the announcer at 3:57 "That was a great job extending the play, it was a beautiful throw" Also look at the 9 minute mark "Alex Smith throws an absolute dart. Threads the needle now that is a big time throw"

ESPN 2011 Football Projection for Alex Smith:

"ESPN Fantasy Projection: Smith, a former No. 1 overall pick, has lost heat off his fastball because of shoulder surgery, is jittery in the pocket and has never conquered the accuracy problems that have plagued him since day one. But Jim Harbaugh has decided to use Smith as a bridge to rookie QB Colin Kaepernick, for better or worse. This might be fine news for Vernon Davis, a favored Smith target, but we're guessing it's not great news for the 49ers as a whole."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8416/alex-smith

Of course, they are idiots that know nothing about football.

Originally posted by Shaj:
ESPN 2011 Football Projection for Alex Smith:

"ESPN Fantasy Projection: Smith, a former No. 1 overall pick, has lost heat off his fastball because of shoulder surgery, is jittery in the pocket and has never conquered the accuracy problems that have plagued him since day one. But Jim Harbaugh has decided to use Smith as a bridge to rookie QB Colin Kaepernick, for better or worse. This might be fine news for Vernon Davis, a favored Smith target, but we're guessing it's not great news for the 49ers as a whole."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8416/alex-smith

Of course, they are idiots that know nothing about football.

They are just trolls.

Shaj, that projection is about Fantasy Football.

Originally posted by dj43:
People need to go look at the play in real time. Smith had just come off Crabtree and Davis in his progression and neither is open. He continues scanning to the right and finds Gore open and throws the ball. The entire sequence happens in less than 2 seconds. With the pass rusher about to get him from behind, there is neither time nor reason to ignore Gore and go looking to see if Davis or Crabtree had come open.

If there is any Seattle defender the 49ers had game planned to avoid it would be Earl Thomas...and he is sitting right in the middle of the picture. With his reactions and speed, he likely would have deflected a bullet pass or gotten back to pick a floater.

Go look at the actual play in real time.

The reason people defend Smith is from ridicules positions people make. He has and is given fault but people jump on the dang wagon and just chalk things up to his fault before even really looking into them.

Like you said, Smith Scans VD and Crabs who are not open, so what people want him to do is throw him open which takes another 1.5s. So Basically he has to stare down Crabtree for 1.5seconds until right before he comes uncovered and pass the ball.... Well who thinks that's going to working the RedZone in the NFL??? No anybody who really looks at it for what it is.