Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by Shaj:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by Shaj:
# of GMs in the league that would pick Alex over Cam as their QB: 0
Wow... are you hopping on every thread that involves Smith and making it into an Alex vs Cam thread? What QB had better numbers than Cam today? We get you don't like Alex, but he is what he is. Deal with it. Lets hope he keeps the TOs to a minimum and makes the throws when he has to. Your comparison is really ridiculous.
what's frustrating me is the degree of homerism here. people are not just drinking kool aid, I think they're swimming in it. it's frustrating to me because fans have a bigger voice than we think we do, but if this site is at all representative of the total fan base, we are extremely complacent and easily satisfied, most of all at the qb position.
when smith loses games and puts up bad stats, it's his peers and coaching. when he has an solid but unspectacular game with sub-average yards and no passing TDs and the D and ST wins it, he's a hero. When Cam throws for 400 yards in his NFL debut, it's meaningless because the team didn't win. Jeez, if Alex threw for 400 yards in a loss in year 7, this place would be pandemonium.
I think I'm one of very few objective people on this site.
Shaj, I agree with every point in your post. I really do.
But I think the point that is being made here against you is that NO ONE is claiming Smith as a hero. People are just saying that it's a good start by a QB who has been the reason we lost in so many games in the past. He definitely didn't do any of that today, and had more good plays than bad ones. Considering the circumstances and what he was asked to do, he had a solid game. Lets hope and look forward to him improving each week as Harbaugh opens the playbook up as well.
fair enough, it's true that nobody is calling him a hero, but if you were to sort the results of all NFL QBs from yesterday and take the names off and you didn't know which set of results belonged to Smith. Nobody in their right mind would highlight Smith's results in any way for any reason under any circumstances, unless it were to be known that this was a # 1 overall pick after 7 years that only threw for 124 yards and zero td's. against the seahawks.
I compare to cam because I am so sick of QB after QB every year coming out of the chute playing very well in new systems (and Cam's HC is a defensive coach by the way) and into very bad teams and suddenly there is this dramatic turn around that nobody wants to give those QBs credit, they want to give credit to the rest of the team, but when our QB plays well, it's all on him. When Smith plays bad, suddenly it's the team and coaching's fault again.
I just don't see how we can ever get better with this type of attitude.
and it's true that I'm not satisfied. I am not easily satisfied. I expect the kind of results that I see first round and lower QBs producing with other teams. Smith is still in the lowest echelon of NFL QB's. When he's consensus in the top third, then I'll stop complaining, and I would love to give him all the credit he deserves. I hope he succeeds, but the track record says he is not on pace to become young or montana, but rather, he IS a modern day Tim Couch. Only more likeable, and with a better attitude and work ethic, which evidence indicates is worth exactly zero on the field.