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gore frustrated *Edit - Signed Extension on 8/30 - 3 years: May no longer be frustrated.*

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
So you think we should give Gore DeAngelo Williams money. Allrighty then.

I remember a few years ago saying that we should trade him for what we can because he's not going to hold up much longer.
No, I don't think we should give exactly Williams money. However, the Niners dug themselves in this hole by not completing a restructuring of the contract before Williams landed his deal. They knew Gore was unhappy, and did not resolve the issue before his holdout. Then, Williams extended his contract with bigger than expected numbers, and the Niners are stuck in an awkward position. This did not have to be the case.

My premise, as stated above, is that the Niners should make some attempt to move that number closer to Williams' number, and since they have a lot of cap space in 2011, and the big money free agent market is already gone, they could front load the contract. Give him a big signing bonus, and a contract that is huge on the fourth and fifth year, just before he will be released.
As for trading Gore, I believed two years ago was the prime time to make a deal, when his market value was at its highest. I don't think he can fetch more than a third at this point.

Are you really knocking the front office for not dealing with Gore before Williams got his deal?

Williams deal was within 48 hours of the lockout ending, and may have been the lone reason for even wanting more money
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
That only works if you are winning. The media will destroy him with that attitude if we are losing.
Not in the Bay Area. Outside of San Francisco, yes, but our media is soft.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Shorteous:
Nothing I love more than a good old Maddog beating, makes it worth sifting through thousands of alex threads just with the hope of finding some senile blabber by Maddog followed by an onslaught of well executed Maddog lashings. Happy Sunday everybody.

You sift through thousands of Alex threads for my comments? I am honored.

Ya it's like America's Funniest Home Videos, it's not out of respect because nobody admires the guy caught on camera getting slammed in nuts but it is a lot of fun see it happen.
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Are you really knocking the front office for not dealing with Gore before Williams got his deal?

Williams deal was within 48 hours of the lockout ending, and may have been the lone reason for even wanting more money
Gore has stated that he wants to retire a 49er, and this is the last year of his contract. It appears the team did not intend to alter his contract to make this happen before camp started. It is this lack of communication with key personnel that is a problem. I can't believe someone in all this offseason chatter could not have picked up the phone and say, "Frank, we know this is the last year of your contract, and we intend to have you retire as a 49er".

My continual beef with the front office is that they are reactionary, and not proactive. It was that way with the draft, free agency, Gore's contract.
Originally posted by Shorteous:
Ya it's like America's Funniest Home Videos, it's not out of respect because nobody admires the guy caught on camera getting slammed in nuts but it is a lot of fun see it happen.

Once again, I am honored that you spend so much time fixated on me.

Cheers.

P.S. Since you invest so much time on little old me, how about actually arguing the points, instead of trying to find some error I made in the past. Nobody is claiming perfection here, so debate the points. Otherwise, you appear weak and petty.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Gore has stated that he wants to retire a 49er, and this is the last year of his contract. It appears the team did not intend to alter his contract to make this happen before camp started. It is this lack of communication with key personnel that is a problem. I can't believe someone in all this offseason chatter could not have picked up the phone and say, "Frank, we know this is the last year of your contract, and we intend to have you retire as a 49er".

My continual beef with the front office is that they are reactionary, and not proactive. It was that way with the draft, free agency, Gore's contract.

This.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Are you really knocking the front office for not dealing with Gore before Williams got his deal?

Williams deal was within 48 hours of the lockout ending, and may have been the lone reason for even wanting more money
Gore has stated that he wants to retire a 49er, and this is the last year of his contract. It appears the team did not intend to alter his contract to make this happen before camp started. It is this lack of communication with key personnel that is a problem. I can't believe someone in all this offseason chatter could not have picked up the phone and say, "Frank, we know this is the last year of your contract, and we intend to have you retire as a 49er".

My continual beef with the front office is that they are reactionary, and not proactive. It was that way with the draft, free agency, Gore's contract.

The truth is this:

The 49ers tore up Gore's rookie contract 2 years into it and extended him, gave him money based on the hope he would be a good player. I didn't see anyone saying the organization was having a problem communicating then ... yes before many here, particularly you knew how good Gore was at the time. The way I see it, the 49ers organization has earned a little loyalty here and which is why I think Gore is poo-pooing all over the 49ers. He remembered when most forgot.
On a brighter note, the Cowgirls look crappy.
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
On a brighter note, the Cowgirls look crappy.

Is that game nationally telivised?
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Shorteous:
Ya it's like America's Funniest Home Videos, it's not out of respect because nobody admires the guy caught on camera getting slammed in nuts but it is a lot of fun see it happen.

Once again, I am honored that you spend so much time fixated on me.

Cheers.

P.S. Since you invest so much time on little old me, how about actually arguing the points, instead of trying to find some error I made in the past. Nobody is claiming perfection here, so debate the points. Otherwise, you appear weak and petty.

You sir are a waste of time sorry to hurt your feelings but I have to much respect to try and chase you through a convoluted circumlocutory self BJ. It's like trying to play hot wheels with the kid who constantly calls super speed and ultimate force field.

As hard as I could possibly try, I could never seem as petty as you portray yourself. If you did a bit of research you'd find that I do continuously argue points but deny the fact that I must with you because you want me to. You are no authority here and in fact your attempts at authority amongst the board is what makes this so fun.

boy this is fun. Do you not realize that your impossible to argue with because you are a collection of assumptions derived from poor reporting all spun to further your perspective. It's in impossible to argue with the insane and I will not engage haha but thanks for asking me to the dance.
Great job Maddog on speaking the truth.
49ers must restructure Gore's contract with a it front loaded over then next two years and incentive base with roster bonus in the last two years. After this year I'm in full support of trading Gore and the final 3 years of his contract. I do love the man though. Do not pay the man Williams money, but lets use our free cap space this year and some next year and then fluff the rest.
Originally posted by susweel:
Great job Maddog on speaking the truth.

Got to speak the truth, even if it hurts. If you repeat the phrase three times in a row: "Trent Baalke is running this organization", it is a guaranteed rush to the toilet bowl. He obviously has a lot of fans on this board.
Originally posted by Shorteous:
49ers must restructure Gore's contract with a it front loaded over then next two years and incentive base with roster bonus in the last two years. After this year I'm in full support of trading Gore and the final 3 years of his contract. I do love the man though. Do not pay the man Williams money, but lets use our free cap space this year and some next year and then fluff the rest.

Hey, we agree. Party balloons for all. I stated pretty much the same earlier in this thread.