gore frustrated *Edit - Signed Extension on 8/30 - 3 years: May no longer be frustrated.*

Originally posted by smashmouth51:
You never know with running backs. They seem to hit a wall and they are done. Other position players seem to gradually lose a little each year but RBs can be pretty good one season and the next look down right awful.

And that wall seems to get hit around the age of 28-30, and Frank is 28.

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
We are sitting on a pile of money, so why not? We won't because ownership is cheap, and management is disasterous in taking care of their own. Niners' brass will be offered something fair in compensation, but will probably ask for 15 number one selections. When they don't find a partner, they will be shocked.

I smell Mass E-mail, Part II.

Nice job, Baalke. Way to piss off your best offensive player. Genius strikes again.

So you think we should give Gore DeAngelo Williams money. Allrighty then.

I remember a few years ago saying that we should trade him for what we can because he's not going to hold up much longer.

Gore deserves to get paid well for all his hard work he has put in. We have plenty of money to pay him, we just have to make sure it works for both the team and him. i like the ideal of 20 mil in guaranteed money.5 yr deal sound good also. This way we have the ability to hopefully make a playoff push, he will get the team record for rushing.

Originally posted by 5280High:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by 5280High:
They just had the phone conversation on NFL network, JH has the tone of "god i hate the media why am I even wasting my time" when he mentions its water cooler talk and they will deal with frank man to man.

That only works if you are winning. The media will destroy him with that attitude if we are losing.

The same attitude where he actually talked to the media about it? He didnt have to answer a reporters call at all. The point of the post was that from his tone, it sounds like a non-issue to him. If he were aggravated or short with the response, it would seem like a bigger deal. But he responded fully and very laid back, just with a tone like "man this must be a slow news day".

I was making more of a general comment about attitudes towards the media. Harbaugh does at times seem to get annoyed and I get it, but at the same time I believe fans deserve to know, within reason. Guys like Barrows, Miaocco and Branch should get respect, they report the new and dont attatck the team. I 'm not saying he doesn't respect them, I'm just saying....

Originally posted by modninerfan:

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by niner4life21:
And the worst part is that he thinks he's the most intelligent poster on this site. He's definitely good at the draft board s**t, but I think he's full of himself whenever he posts in Niner Talk.

Thank you, Trent's sister.

Awesome post. Didn't expect much better from you.

lol, classy and intelligent response by Maddog, I agree with the bolded

Nothing I love more than a good old Maddog beating, makes it worth sifting through thousands of alex threads just with the hope of finding some senile blabber by Maddog followed by an onslaught of well executed Maddog lashings. Happy Sunday everybody.

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
We are sitting on a pile of money, so why not? We won't because ownership is cheap, and management is disasterous in taking care of their own. Niners' brass will be offered something fair in compensation, but will probably ask for 15 number one selections. When they don't find a partner, they will be shocked.

I smell Mass E-mail, Part II.

Nice job, Baalke. Way to piss off your best offensive player. Genius strikes again.

So you think we should give Gore DeAngelo Williams money. Allrighty then.

I remember a few years ago saying that we should trade him for what we can because he's not going to hold up much longer.

Don't forget about his idea of replacing Gore with Beanie Wells

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by canadian49erfan:

What could we even get for Frank?

2nd rounder??

Lol. From who?!?!?

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Lol. From who?!?!?

Pats? i know they got a s**t load of picks. And Gore would be nice on the Pats

Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Lol. From who?!?!?

Pats? i know they got a s**t load of picks. And Gore would be nice on the Pats

Oh please !!

The Pats who got Randy Moss in his prime for only a 4th rounder???

The Pats who got 1000 yards out of the Green Ellis guy?

The Pats who got legit production out of Woodhead??

The pats are too genius to trade a 2nd round pick. Only an idiot team with NO RB prospect might trade a 3rd, most likely a 4th at most

sayin'

Originally posted by niners:

man this is tough. i love Franky G., but if the deal he is seeking is going to handicap the 49ers organization money wise or prevent us from bring in needed talent at other positions of need, we all have to accept his departure via trade or playing out his contract. i have read lots of comments that suggest we should pay him for what his done for us in the past, i strongly disagree. in the NFL is about what you can offer moving forward period. i have the up most confidence in our coaching staff and scouts that we would find a replacement. everyone is expendable. will we miss him? yes, until his replacement starts tearing it up, makes me sad to say but it's truth. GO 9ERS!

Nice post

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
So you think we should give Gore DeAngelo Williams money. Allrighty then.

I remember a few years ago saying that we should trade him for what we can because he's not going to hold up much longer.

No, I don't think we should give exactly Williams money. However, the Niners dug themselves in this hole by not completing a restructuring of the contract before Williams landed his deal. They knew Gore was unhappy, and did not resolve the issue before his holdout. Then, Williams extended his contract with bigger than expected numbers, and the Niners are stuck in an awkward position. This did not have to be the case.

My premise, as stated above, is that the Niners should make some attempt to move that number closer to Williams' number, and since they have a lot of cap space in 2011, and the big money free agent market is already gone, they could front load the contract. Give him a big signing bonus, and a contract that is huge on the fourth and fifth year, just before he will be released.
As for trading Gore, I believed two years ago was the prime time to make a deal, when his market value was at its highest. I don't think he can fetch more than a third at this point.

Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:

sayin'

You are definitely right about them being able to afford him with all their picks. But they don't seem likely IMO

Originally posted by YungAce:
Don't forget about his idea of replacing Gore with Beanie Wells

Take your shots, but with the truth. That was well before the draft, during the season. On draft day, my board had in order when the Niners were on the board: Michael Crabtree, Brian Orakpo and Malcolm Jenkins. Orakpo has been huge, much better than the crowd that cheered loudly for Everette Brown. As you probably remember, I said that Brown would struggle in the NFL, and Orakpo would be a stud. My board was not perfect, as Crabtree has not been nearly as good as Orakpo.

P.S. As you also recalled from that draft, I stated the Glen Coffee was a disasterous third rounder, and I had him graded as a 5th round back, at best.

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Nothing I love more than a good old Maddog beating, makes it worth sifting through thousands of alex threads just with the hope of finding some senile blabber by Maddog followed by an onslaught of well executed Maddog lashings. Happy Sunday everybody.

You sift through thousands of Alex threads for my comments? I am honored.