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We did......... via Aldon Smith.

Originally posted by superman49er:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
I say we broke even. Hopefully with an upgraded pass rush it improves.

show your work?

huh?
Originally posted by superman49er:
absolutely

clements is a better tackler than rogers, but rogers is better in coverage..the job of a corner is to cover, therefore rogers > clements

whitner >> than lewis and mays

reggie smith > goldson (not a new add, but an upgrade nonetheless in my opinion)

madieu williams adds veteran depth

culliver ? (obviously the verdict still out on him since he hasnt played a minute yet)

It's simple, we got faster. That's all we need back there. Not Mays fast but slasher fast.
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Originally posted by superman49er:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
I say we broke even. Hopefully with an upgraded pass rush it improves.

show your work?

huh?

He means 'splain.
  • pd24
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by superman49er:
absolutely

clements is a better tackler than rogers, but rogers is better in coverage..the job of a corner is to cover, therefore rogers > clements

whitner >> than lewis and mays

reggie smith > goldson (not a new add, but an upgrade nonetheless in my opinion)

madieu williams adds veteran depth

culliver ? (obviously the verdict still out on him since he hasnt played a minute yet)

It's simple, we got faster. That's all we need back there. Not Mays fast but slasher fast.
We got faster all over the field on both sides of the ball.
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Originally posted by superman49er:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
I say we broke even. Hopefully with an upgraded pass rush it improves.

show your work?

huh?

He means 'splain.

Whitner = Goldson. Rogers = Clements. Not the same kinds of players, but they'll bring a similar caliber of play. And for much much cheaper.
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Yes, but not nearly enough. The secondary will definitely be an area of emphasis next year...you can bet on it.

Put simply, I agree.
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by superman49er:
absolutely

clements is a better tackler than rogers, but rogers is better in coverage..the job of a corner is to cover, therefore rogers > clements

whitner >> than lewis and mays

reggie smith > goldson (not a new add, but an upgrade nonetheless in my opinion)

madieu williams adds veteran depth

culliver ? (obviously the verdict still out on him since he hasnt played a minute yet)

It's simple, we got faster. That's all we need back there. Not Mays fast but slasher fast.
We got faster all over the field on both sides of the ball.

And this, in my opinion, was what was lacking on this team for the past few years.

We were one of the slowest teams in the league last year.
  • fly15
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the secondary was upgraded as soon as clements was dumped
let me tell u, if i dont ever hear at one point during the season, *the 49ers make avg qbs look like allstars*, then hell yeah we have upgraded...big time

Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by superman49er:
absolutely

clements is a better tackler than rogers, but rogers is better in coverage..the job of a corner is to cover, therefore rogers > clements

whitner >> than lewis and mays

reggie smith > goldson (not a new add, but an upgrade nonetheless in my opinion)

madieu williams adds veteran depth

culliver ? (obviously the verdict still out on him since he hasnt played a minute yet)

It's simple, we got faster. That's all we need back there. Not Mays fast but slasher fast.
We got faster all over the field on both sides of the ball.

And this, in my opinion, was what was lacking on this team for the past few years.

We were one of the slowest teams in the league last year.
It'll be nice to see that speed on the field this year.

Bowman.
Whitner
Reggie smith
rodgers
culliver
aldon smith
Ray Mcd

Splooooooooooge
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
I say we broke even. Hopefully with an upgraded pass rush it improves.

I agree. Break even. Pass rush will possibly improve us.
I think we will be ranked better than 24th against the pass this year.
Originally posted by FILTHpigskin:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by OnYouLikeGlue:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Yes, but not nearly enough. The secondary will definitely be an area of emphasis next year...you can bet on it.

I agree with this, but if the D can go from 24th against the pass to 15th, while its not great, it would be a huge improvement over the disaster that was last season.

They were so bad last year, that type of improvement isn't totally unrealistic, especially if our pass rush under Fangio improves.

I think they'll draft a CB and receiver early next year... unless Edwards does well and get's resigned. Defensive back for sure, though.

agreed
Originally posted by BIGDOGG42:
I think we will be ranked better than 24th against the pass this year.

I think we will be 18-22nd due to these facts:

1. new scheme.
2. we will blitz more, so bigger chance of someone blowing an assignment.
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