Niners Sign C Goodwin

Originally posted by AB83Rules:

Originally posted by 80849er4life:

Originally posted by AB83Rules:

Originally posted by 80849er4life:

Originally posted by AB83Rules:

Originally posted by 80849er4life:

Originally posted by AB83Rules:

Originally posted by 80849er4life:

Originally posted by AB83Rules:
hey guys got an update on the cap for 2012.

Ok, 62 players under contract out of the 85 or so under contract right now for 2011.

just under 75M in salaries for 2012, no dead space at all.

Even if the cap next yr stays around 125M, but should be 130M IMO, We would have a ton of space.

For now, lets say McDonald counts 5M for 2012, Goodwin counts 3.7M, and Akers, say 2M.

So add on the 75M and the 10.7M, we have 85.7M committed for 2012.

And we have our core really signed long term.

These are signed for 2012.

QB Kaepernick(2014)
RB Hunter(2014)
RB Dixon(2013)
FB/OLB Miller(2014) - Have high hopes for this kid, as a FB and especially a OLB
WR Crabtree(2014)
WR Williams(2013)
WR Johnson(2014)
TE v.Davis(2015)
TE Walker(2012) - Who I think should get extended this off-season, but that is my opinion.
TE N.Byham(2013)
C Goodwin(2013)
C Kilgore(2014)
OT Staley(2017)
OT Davis(2014)
OG Iupati(2014)
OG Person(2014)
DE J.Smith(2013) - Also hoping he gets extended
DE McDonald(2015)
NT Sopoaga(2012)
NT Jean-Francois(2012)
OLB A.Smith(2014)
ILB Willis(2016)
ILB Bowman(2013)
CB Spencer(2012)
CB Brown(2013)
CB Adams(2013)
CB Culliver(2014)
SS Mays(2013)
PK Akers(2013)
P Lee(2012) - Would like to see him extended to
LS Jennings(2014)

Plus other UDFAs from this yr.

Others That I like that are signed. Ian Williams, Colin Jones. Then Wragge is a UFA, Alex is, Snyder, Gore, the new guys like Rogers, Williams, Costonzo, Grant, Applewhite.

Now for 2011, I expect McDonald to cost 5M, Akers 2M and Goodwin around 3-4M, but these deals might be backloaded.

Before those 3 I have us at 92M, with dead space, which would leave 28M in space before those 3(The new guys like Applewhite, Grant, Williams and re-signed Wragge have minimum deals)

And almost forgot Rogers, lol, I think 3M is a safe bet.

So 92M, add in 14M, about 14M left.

Looks like we have to talk about Soaps contract soon.......he and Lee I would like to see end as Niners......

The guys I hope get extended soon.

Walker, Lee and Justin Smith.

I wanna see Sopoaga play at NT 1st, and then we should extend him if he plays well.

Gore I am iffy on, this would be his 3rd deal and it just scares me.

IMO Gore and Justin Smith will be Niners for the rest of their careers.....dont see management getting rid of these two guys considering what they have done for this franchise, at its darkest time......Soap and Lee Im worried about..........

Lee could ask for a new deal. I mean Michael Koenen got a 19M deal tho, which is a lot for a Punter.

Thats unheard of for a punter.....but I just hope we dont get rid of him.....if we do we better get Mcbrier from the Cowbitc***.....no other punter can replace him but Mcbrier......

im with ya, we need to keep Lee, one of the best P's in the game.

Im loving our STs.

Akers, Jennings and Lee

Costonzo as our Gunner

Then guys like Culliver, Williams, Ginn can return kicks and punts.

Just get Walker off STs and use more 2 TE sets with him and Vernon.

Our ST unit has a shot to be the best in the league this year.....Ginn broke one last year when he could broken atleast 4 I counted, but with our new Guru at the whistle.....WE GOT THIS.....(Seely's voice) "JH just worry bout your offense".....

Honestly man, besides getting Harbaugh, of course I was excited.

But when I heard we named Seely ST Coach and Assistant HC, I was so excited. He had guys like Cribbs in CLE playing awesome.

And costonzo was his ST Ace on kickoffs. Kinda like M-Rob was with us. I have high hopes as well for this ST Unit. McKillop if making team would be good on their too.

It will be interesting at LB.

Willis, Aldon, Brooks and Haralson are likely locks, even tho Haralson sucks.

Then Bowman should make it. I pray Applewhite works out, and Grant I loved when drafted, mad he was waived and picked up by STL.

Then Costonzo also on LB but mainly STs.

I would keep those, and possibly cut Haralson, and keep McKillop or Kristick. I would rather put Kristick on PS.

Im thinking Applewhite gonna get the nod over Haralson.......

Originally posted by dtcomposer:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

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Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by jreff22:
but but but........

Trent is the suxors


Retards

You're the type of cat who would blindly follow anything the team does and find reasons to justify it. You really wanna talk sh*t just because it worked out in your favor this time?

Of course you do.

His "retards" comment was not sarcasm, it was him gloating. The problem is, the only reason he was right is because he ignores reality in favor of optimism. It just happened to work out for him this time, and believe me I'm happy it did. I just don't like the fact that he wants to talk sh*t as if he knew all would be well when in reality he would have followed anything the team did with unfiltered Homerism.

He was right. Congrats to him, but save the insults.

I didn't ignore anything, I took a wait and see approach, I wasn't screaming like a girl in the first 3 days of FA. Maybe people should stay calm and not make idiotic predictions on how bad we suck because Nnamdi went to the Eagles. Or because Trent wasn't going to overpay for mediocre talent. Or that Gore should be traded, or that we suck so bad FA's don't want to come here.

I can gloat because Gore came back, our big FA's losses signed s**tty contracts showing their market worth, and I trusted a professional GM over people sitting on computers at home who looked ridiculous.

Cooler heads always prevail

Trust me, man, I'm very glad you were right. I just don't like the fact that you're insulting those who thought it was going poorly - because by all means, it certainly looked bad. I know some overreacted to a ridiculous extent, but that's the way it is with fans, I guess.

I didn't give Baalke or Jed the benefit of the doubt because they have done nothing to deserve it. If a couple more things go our way in this free agency period, I'd say they've earned my trust as a fan.

It isn't about people thinking that they were "getting it wrong". Come on man it was like a maternity ward in here for the first few days of FA. All the predictions and the whining, and the conspiracies.... a complete joke. It just shows that a good portion of the fans can't be logical about the team. Gloating isn't really my thing, but if you put out strong opinions like that you have to be ready to get it back when you are proven very wrong about them. Take it like a man!

Its funny that fans don't like to be insulted about their opinions, but feel it is okay to insult others. I have feelings to, and wouldn't mind a sexy splash, but I at least took the time to understand what the FO was thinking and why, to not get all bent of shape and hope something falls our way.

Originally posted by NolanMustDie:
Now this one is one of those "How the f*** did we do that?" signings.

When the niners want someone and someone is serious it can get done. Guys like NA and JJ weren't serious. The guys that we lost we weren't serious enough to overpay. I like that we are not getting emotional-the front office that is, not the webzone.

Thats why people rag us with phrase like would you like some whine with that cheese.

Originally posted by WildBill:

Originally posted by NolanMustDie:
Now this one is one of those "How the f*** did we do that?" signings.

When the niners want someone and someone is serious it can get done. Guys like NA and JJ weren't serious. The guys that we lost we weren't serious enough to overpay. I like that we are not getting emotional-the front office that is, not the webzone.

Thats why people rag us with phrase like would you like some cheese with that whine.

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Is really better then Baas ?

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Is really better then Baas ?

Baas was pretty much beasting it last season, so I would say no. The NY Giants would likely agree. But it's an upgrade over no Baas!

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Is really better then Baas ?

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It is a good pickup for the Niners, but not for the reason some are saying. Goodwin is on the down side of his career, and will be 33 mid-way through the 2011 season. The Saints have moved on to a younger player, and Goodwin did not generate much interest in free agency. Free agent centers like Baas, Spencer, Sendlein and many others were signed by teams long before Goodwin. The reason? He's about done. Can the Niners get two good years out of him? Maybe, maybe not. Put him in the Olin Kreutz catagory, older guy with possibly a couple years left in the tank.

The good news about the signing is not the replacement for Baas, who will be better than Goodwin in 2011. Baas is three years younger and ascending. It is that Snyder can replace Rachal at guard. And, that is good news.

I am not sure why people are dancing on the board about the free agent signings the past couple days. Many need to step back and really see what we purchased. Rogers and Goodwin fill holes, but these are not top quality players. They are big named players, but they have already peaked and are on the downside of their career. Neither are better than the current David Baas and Nate Clements.

Some on the board are now calling Trent a genius, and Jed a master jedi. The truth remains that the organization massively failed this offseason, and had to scramble at the last minute to find lower tiered replacement players that has almost zero interest in the market. So, I don't get the accolades placed on the front office. These were leftover or bargain bin players who fill a spot on the field, but are not going to elevate the team to another level. They are not bad players by any means. But, there is absolutely no reason to be giddy over these guys, or try to defend management.

If you compare our signings with divisional rivals: the Seahawks, Rams, and Cardinals, you will see that they picked up ascending, young talent. We have picked up role players and three descending vets in Goodwin, Rogers, and Williams.

We will see a drop off in talent in 2011.

[ Edited by MadDog49er on Aug 3, 2011 at 18:02:52 ]

que the fun-vacuum...

I guess we can go back to hating life ..thanks MD

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I guess we can go back to hating life ..thanks MD