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Am I the only one under-whelmed with our Recievers??
Jul 24, 2011 at 11:18 AM
- GoNiners
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I know it won't happen but I really wish we would sign Moss
Jul 24, 2011 at 11:21 AM
- BETTERDAYZ9ERS
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Morgan has always given decent production considering all the circumstances and excuses people use for Alex.
Dif Coordinator every year
Defensive minded Head coach who want's to run the ball
Everyone is mad at Morgan when it comes to discussing receivers on our team yet the biggest disappointment is Crabtree. Yeah the same guy who held out for more money for half a season. Morgan was a 6th round pick and was never to be more than a #2.
We could use better talent on the outside but who will throw them the rock anyway. As long as Alex is our QB it's moot point.
Dif Coordinator every year
Defensive minded Head coach who want's to run the ball
Everyone is mad at Morgan when it comes to discussing receivers on our team yet the biggest disappointment is Crabtree. Yeah the same guy who held out for more money for half a season. Morgan was a 6th round pick and was never to be more than a #2.
We could use better talent on the outside but who will throw them the rock anyway. As long as Alex is our QB it's moot point.
Jul 24, 2011 at 11:41 AM
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I dont understand the pro Morgan camp. I think most of us would agree that Morgan is "servicecable" at best as a numbe two. But is that really what you want at the number two spot, servicable? He's a great blocker with the speed of a possesion reciever (That doesn't have great hands.). Crabtree's similar, but a much better version. What we need is someone that complements Crabtree. Currently, that complement isn't on our roster or has yet to reveal himself. I'm sick of the slow, big body recievers of the McNolan era.......
[ Edited by Oakland-Niner on Jul 24, 2011 at 11:42 AM ]
Jul 24, 2011 at 11:45 AM
- WRATHman44
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
I dont understand the pro Morgan camp. I think most of us would agree that Morgan is "servicecable" at best as a numbe two. But is that really what you want at the number two spot, servicable? He's a great blocker with the speed of a possesion reciever (That doesn't have great hands.). Crabtree's similar, but a much better version. What we need is someone that complements Crabtree. Currently, that complement isn't on our roster or has yet to reveal himself. I'm sick of the slow, big body recievers of the McNolan era.......
I agree that Crabtree and Morgan share similar characteristics, but so did the GOAT and Taylor. Big bodied, strong blocking receivers w/ build up speed, rather than sudden explosiveness. I think Morgan will be fine in an offense that gets him the ball in stride with some room to run (see: WCO)
Jul 24, 2011 at 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by WRATHman44:Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
I dont understand the pro Morgan camp. I think most of us would agree that Morgan is "servicecable" at best as a numbe two. But is that really what you want at the number two spot, servicable? He's a great blocker with the speed of a possesion reciever (That doesn't have great hands.). Crabtree's similar, but a much better version. What we need is someone that complements Crabtree. Currently, that complement isn't on our roster or has yet to reveal himself. I'm sick of the slow, big body recievers of the McNolan era.......
I agree that Crabtree and Morgan share similar characteristics, but so did the GOAT and Taylor. Big bodied, strong blocking receivers w/ build up speed, rather than sudden explosiveness. I think Morgan will be fine in an offense that gets him the ball in stride with some room to run (see: WCO)
BINGO!
Jul 24, 2011 at 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by Wodwo:Originally posted by WRATHman44:Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
I dont understand the pro Morgan camp. I think most of us would agree that Morgan is "servicecable" at best as a numbe two. But is that really what you want at the number two spot, servicable? He's a great blocker with the speed of a possesion reciever (That doesn't have great hands.). Crabtree's similar, but a much better version. What we need is someone that complements Crabtree. Currently, that complement isn't on our roster or has yet to reveal himself. I'm sick of the slow, big body recievers of the McNolan era.......
I agree that Crabtree and Morgan share similar characteristics, but so did the GOAT and Taylor. Big bodied, strong blocking receivers w/ build up speed, rather than sudden explosiveness. I think Morgan will be fine in an offense that gets him the ball in stride with some room to run (see: WCO)
BINGO!
Couldn't have said it better myself. My point is that Morgan catches heat more the Crabs. Our first rounder. Morgan could be cut and wouldn't matter considering where he was drafted and how much he has been paid. On the other hand if our other WR doesn't pan out, well then ..
Jul 24, 2011 at 12:06 PM
- jrg
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yes
Jul 24, 2011 at 3:03 PM
- classyfan49
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Does anybody else feel that Morgan is actually on the somewhat slow side?
Jul 24, 2011 at 3:05 PM
- dj43
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Originally posted by classyfan49:
Does anybody else feel that Morgan is actually on the somewhat slow side?
Not slow, just average.
Jul 24, 2011 at 3:23 PM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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Morgan has good long strides... still not really fast. He lacks fluidity... runs like he is 4 inches taller... kinda lanky movements. He doesn't track the deep ball all that well. He's a decent receiver, but he seems to drop or lose sight of a couple clutch plays per game. It's irritating, but more so because the rest of the receivers take turns doing the same thing. Just like the OL... it's as if everyone goes into the huddle and says, "okay. whose turn is it to fu*k up this next play?"
Jul 24, 2011 at 4:04 PM
- SF4EVA
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In our O Vern is the # 1 Period point blank With Crabs being the #2. Any star type WR will either take balls from Vern or Crabs. With a Good QB they both could be 100 yd receivers with both of them being very close to 100+ catches Morgan is that serviceable # 3 WR i.e Possession.
Jul 24, 2011 at 4:43 PM
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It's going to be interesting, cause last season 80% of our wide-receivers were stuck doing blocking duties off the center's right ass-cheek.
Jul 24, 2011 at 5:16 PM
- juycho
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Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
It's going to be interesting, cause last season 80% of our wide-receivers were stuck doing blocking duties off the center's right ass-cheek.
It could be interesting in Free agency. I believe McBaalke is bluffing about being quiet in Free Agency.
Jul 24, 2011 at 5:34 PM
- Memphis9er
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Originally posted by SF4EVA:
In our O Vern is the # 1 Period point blank With Crabs being the #2. Any star type WR will either take balls from Vern or Crabs. With a Good QB they both could be 100 yd receivers with both of them being very close to 100+ catches Morgan is that serviceable # 3 WR i.e Possession.
If you look at Morgans numbers, he is an above average #2 receiver.
Jul 24, 2011 at 7:05 PM
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Originally posted by Wodwo:Originally posted by WRATHman44:Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
I dont understand the pro Morgan camp. I think most of us would agree that Morgan is "servicecable" at best as a numbe two. But is that really what you want at the number two spot, servicable? He's a great blocker with the speed of a possesion reciever (That doesn't have great hands.). Crabtree's similar, but a much better version. What we need is someone that complements Crabtree. Currently, that complement isn't on our roster or has yet to reveal himself. I'm sick of the slow, big body recievers of the McNolan era.......
I agree that Crabtree and Morgan share similar characteristics, but so did the GOAT and Taylor. Big bodied, strong blocking receivers w/ build up speed, rather than sudden explosiveness. I think Morgan will be fine in an offense that gets him the ball in stride with some room to run (see: WCO)
BINGO!
Here we go again with the "if the world was perfect for X player" argument. You can say the same thing for just about any NFL quality reciever. Imagine him in the WCO. He doesn't have great hands and isn't that fast. I can't invision this guy ever taking a slant over the middle to the house. Because of his size, he does have YAC ability, but that's probably only good for a few yards, IF he catches the ball. Like I said, he'll be ok if the stars aline, but so what? I like Morgan, but hes a number three. He gets completely taken out of games. Dam the stats, I watch enough games to see he is average.