'89 niners on NFL network now!

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:
I'm not trolling, just trying to be an honest non-homer. I know it's considered blasphemous not to assert our dynasty teams were the greatest, but if we're being honest with ourselves, our teams benefitted from weaker competition.

What the 1999 Rams did, as much as we hate their oganization, is incredible. And it's OK if they have the greatest team of all-time...it's the only SB champion team they've ever had. Just like the 85 Bears. Let them enjoy their one spectacular year. The 49ers have 5 rings, even if none of those teams are Top 10 all-time individually. We had sustained excellence.

The 99 Rams had a great offense . . . so great they averaged a whole 9 yards per more than the 89 Niners . . . and the competition? I don't know where you're getting that. In 1989 the Niners played EIGHT regular season games against teams with records ABOVE .500 and went 6-2. The Rams played ONE regular season game against a team with a winning record (the Titans) and lost.

They had Martz and the fast surface and they caught lightning in a bottle for a season . . . good for them. I agree with the Superbowl Champion rankings by NFL.com that puts the 1999 Rams at #19 . . . that sounds about right.

And you say . . . "The 49ers have 5 rings, even if none of those teams are Top 10 all-time individually."

If that's not a troll line I don't know what is.

Who cares about yards? It's points that matter. The 1999 Rams scored 70 more points than the 1989 49ers.

And they had to play powerhouse playoff teams like the Vikings, Bucs, and Titans.

If you were 12 this would be called attention-seeking behavior. The Bucs never had an offense, and you know it. It seems plainly obvious that you are fishing for a reaction. There are better ways of getting attention, like gathering enough charm and charisma (see also: money) to get girls to like you. It's more fun than irritating people on the internet.

Originally posted by DaveWilcox:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Best team ever!!!

agree... well, 49ers wise.

- 98

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:
I'm not trolling, just trying to be an honest non-homer. I know it's considered blasphemous not to assert our dynasty teams were the greatest, but if we're being honest with ourselves, our teams benefitted from weaker competition.

What the 1999 Rams did, as much as we hate their oganization, is incredible. And it's OK if they have the greatest team of all-time...it's the only SB champion team they've ever had. Just like the 85 Bears. Let them enjoy their one spectacular year. The 49ers have 5 rings, even if none of those teams are Top 10 all-time individually. We had sustained excellence.

The 99 Rams had a great offense . . . so great they averaged a whole 9 yards per more than the 89 Niners . . . and the competition? I don't know where you're getting that. In 1989 the Niners played EIGHT regular season games against teams with records ABOVE .500 and went 6-2. The Rams played ONE regular season game against a team with a winning record (the Titans) and lost.

They had Martz and the fast surface and they caught lightning in a bottle for a season . . . good for them. I agree with the Superbowl Champion rankings by NFL.com that puts the 1999 Rams at #19 . . . that sounds about right.

And you say . . . "The 49ers have 5 rings, even if none of those teams are Top 10 all-time individually."

If that's not a troll line I don't know what is.

Who cares about yards? It's points that matter. The 1999 Rams scored 70 more points than the 1989 49ers.

And they had to play powerhouse playoff teams like the Vikings, Bucs, and Titans.

Based on the scrub schedule the Rams played during the 1999 regular season they should have scored 70 more points. Besides the Titans (who beat them) the Rams played NOBODY during the regular season. The NFC West actually had three teams with winning records in 1989 . . . plus they had to play two division champions plus two wild card teams during the regular season before they crushed the playoff field.

The powerhouse Vikings, Bucs and Titans???? . . .

I've wasted enough time on this now.

Didn't we beat the Titans that year in Jeff Garcia's first start

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:
I'm not trolling, just trying to be an honest non-homer. I know it's considered blasphemous not to assert our dynasty teams were the greatest, but if we're being honest with ourselves, our teams benefitted from weaker competition.

What the 1999 Rams did, as much as we hate their oganization, is incredible. And it's OK if they have the greatest team of all-time...it's the only SB champion team they've ever had. Just like the 85 Bears. Let them enjoy their one spectacular year. The 49ers have 5 rings, even if none of those teams are Top 10 all-time individually. We had sustained excellence.

Damn. The only position Rams had that was better was Faulk.

The 89 49er team would have smashed that Rams team. The Rams won by one yard to the Titans. The very next year they lost to the underdogg Pats and that was the end for them. That's not very spectacular.

[ Edited by Young2Rice on Jun 20, 2011 at 22:00:08 ]

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:
I'm not trolling, just trying to be an honest non-homer. I know it's considered blasphemous not to assert our dynasty teams were the greatest, but if we're being honest with ourselves, our teams benefitted from weaker competition.

What the 1999 Rams did, as much as we hate their oganization, is incredible. And it's OK if they have the greatest team of all-time...it's the only SB champion team they've ever had. Just like the 85 Bears. Let them enjoy their one spectacular year. The 49ers have 5 rings, even if none of those teams are Top 10 all-time individually. We had sustained excellence.

The 99 Rams had a great offense . . . so great they averaged a whole 9 yards per more than the 89 Niners . . . and the competition? I don't know where you're getting that. In 1989 the Niners played EIGHT regular season games against teams with records ABOVE .500 and went 6-2. The Rams played ONE regular season game against a team with a winning record (the Titans) and lost.

They had Martz and the fast surface and they caught lightning in a bottle for a season . . . good for them. I agree with the Superbowl Champion rankings by NFL.com that puts the 1999 Rams at #19 . . . that sounds about right.

And you say . . . "The 49ers have 5 rings, even if none of those teams are Top 10 all-time individually."

If that's not a troll line I don't know what is.

Who cares about yards? It's points that matter. The 1999 Rams scored 70 more points than the 1989 49ers.

And they had to play powerhouse playoff teams like the Vikings, Bucs, and Titans.

Based on the scrub schedule the Rams played during the 1999 regular season they should have scored 70 more points. Besides the Titans (who beat them) the Rams played NOBODY during the regular season. The NFC West actually had three teams with winning records in 1989 . . . plus they had to play two division champions plus two wild card teams during the regular season before they crushed the playoff field.

The powerhouse Vikings, Bucs and Titans???? . . .

I've wasted enough time on this now.

The Titans had to cheat to beat them by pumping in extra crowd noise, and the Rams still nearly won that game. They beat them in the SB rematch.

Yes, the Vikings were a powerhouse. They went 15-1 the year before. Jeff George, Robert Smith, Randy Moss, Cris Carter, Robert Griffith, John Randle. That's a great team.

The Bucs were also a powerhouse. Shaun King was a pretty good QB, and Warrick Dunn/Mike Alstott were one of the best RB/FB tandems in football. Not to mention the best defense in football.

The Titans, who cheated to win the regular season game, had McNair, Eddie George, Lorenzo Neal, Yancey Thigpen, Frank Wycheck, a great o-line, and a great defense led by Kearse and Blaine Bishop.

All 3 teams were all FAR better than any of the 3 teams the 1989 49ers played. John Elway was the only good player on the Broncos. The 1989 Rams were the worst NFC runners up ever. The 1989 Vikings were a joke.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:
I'm not trolling, just trying to be an honest non-homer. I know it's considered blasphemous not to assert our dynasty teams were the greatest, but if we're being honest with ourselves, our teams benefitted from weaker competition.

What the 1999 Rams did, as much as we hate their oganization, is incredible. And it's OK if they have the greatest team of all-time...it's the only SB champion team they've ever had. Just like the 85 Bears. Let them enjoy their one spectacular year. The 49ers have 5 rings, even if none of those teams are Top 10 all-time individually. We had sustained excellence.

Damn. The only position Rams had that was better was Faulk.

The 89 49er team would have smashed that Rams team. The Rams won by one yard to the Titans. The very next year they lost to the underdogg Pats and that was the end for them. That's not very spectacular.

Bruce/Holt > Rice/Taylor. Rice is the GOAT, but Taylor, was a bum. And if Holt hadn't gotten hurt, he might be challening Rice's GOAT status. Two first ballot HOF WRs > 1.

Orlando Pace > any 49er lineman. Pace = HOFer.

Kevin Carter had 17 sacks, better than any Niner pass rusher. London Fletcher was better than any Niner linebacker. Ronnie Lott was better than any Ram DB, but Todd Lyght > Don Griffin & Daryl Pollard.

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:
I'm not trolling, just trying to be an honest non-homer. I know it's considered blasphemous not to assert our dynasty teams were the greatest, but if we're being honest with ourselves, our teams benefitted from weaker competition.

What the 1999 Rams did, as much as we hate their oganization, is incredible. And it's OK if they have the greatest team of all-time...it's the only SB champion team they've ever had. Just like the 85 Bears. Let them enjoy their one spectacular year. The 49ers have 5 rings, even if none of those teams are Top 10 all-time individually. We had sustained excellence.

trollers gonna troll

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:
I'm not trolling, just trying to be an honest non-homer. I know it's considered blasphemous not to assert our dynasty teams were the greatest, but if we're being honest with ourselves, our teams benefitted from weaker competition.

What the 1999 Rams did, as much as we hate their oganization, is incredible. And it's OK if they have the greatest team of all-time...it's the only SB champion team they've ever had. Just like the 85 Bears. Let them enjoy their one spectacular year. The 49ers have 5 rings, even if none of those teams are Top 10 all-time individually. We had sustained excellence.

Damn. The only position Rams had that was better was Faulk.

The 89 49er team would have smashed that Rams team. The Rams won by one yard to the Titans. The very next year they lost to the underdogg Pats and that was the end for them. That's not very spectacular.

Bruce/Holt > Rice/Taylor. Rice is the GOAT, but Taylor, was a bum. And if Holt hadn't gotten hurt, he might be challening Rice's GOAT status. Two first ballot HOF WRs > 1.

Orlando Pace > any 49er lineman. Pace = HOFer.

Kevin Carter had 17 sacks, better than any Niner pass rusher. London Fletcher was better than any Niner linebacker. Ronnie Lott was better than any Ram DB, but Todd Lyght > Don Griffin & Daryl Pollard.

LOL. Ok you have made it pretty clear you are a Rams fan. But you of all people should know John Taylor was not a bum (Two Receiving TDs of 90+ yards on MNF against your Rams in 1989, as well as a clutch TD to win Super Bowl XXIII)...

I'll give you Orlando Pace, but Kevin Carter? We had Fred Dean and Charles Haley, one HOFer and the other a future HOFer. Kevin Carter will never sniff the HOF.

Todd Lyght? Ever hear of Eric Wright or Dwight Hicks? Far superior players over Todd Lyght. Todd Lyght had one exceptional year in 1999, then was cut after the 2000 season because he was getting abused up and down the field.

Patrick Willis > London Fletcher

And that's all I have to say about that

[ Edited by SofaKing on Jun 21, 2011 at 00:17:32 ]

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:
I'm not trolling, just trying to be an honest non-homer. I know it's considered blasphemous not to assert our dynasty teams were the greatest, but if we're being honest with ourselves, our teams benefitted from weaker competition.

What the 1999 Rams did, as much as we hate their oganization, is incredible. And it's OK if they have the greatest team of all-time...it's the only SB champion team they've ever had. Just like the 85 Bears. Let them enjoy their one spectacular year. The 49ers have 5 rings, even if none of those teams are Top 10 all-time individually. We had sustained excellence.

Damn. The only position Rams had that was better was Faulk.

The 89 49er team would have smashed that Rams team. The Rams won by one yard to the Titans. The very next year they lost to the underdogg Pats and that was the end for them. That's not very spectacular.

Bruce/Holt > Rice/Taylor. Rice is the GOAT, but Taylor, was a bum. And if Holt hadn't gotten hurt, he might be challening Rice's GOAT status. Two first ballot HOF WRs > 1.

Orlando Pace > any 49er lineman. Pace = HOFer.

Kevin Carter had 17 sacks, better than any Niner pass rusher. London Fletcher was better than any Niner linebacker. Ronnie Lott was better than any Ram DB, but Todd Lyght > Don Griffin & Daryl Pollard.

LOL. Ok you have made it pretty clear you are a Rams fan. But you of all people should know John Taylor was not a bum (Two Receiving TDs of 90+ yards on MNF against your Rams in 1989, as well as a clutch TD to win Super Bowl XXIII)...

I'll give you Orlando Pace, but Kevin Carter? We had Fred Dean and Charles Haley, one HOFer and the other a future HOFer. Kevin Carter will never sniff the HOF.

Todd Lyght? Ever hear of Eric Wright or Dwight Hicks? Far superior players over Todd Lyght. Todd Lyght had one exceptional year in 1999, then was cut after the 2000 season because he was getting abused up and down the field.

Patrick Willis > London Fletcher

And that's all I have to say about that

Yeah that team just otuscored everyone and gave up a ton of points. The 89 team was just hardcore all the way around.
We had hoss players. He's just trolling or to young to know better.

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by FreddyG:

Originally posted by kidash:

Originally posted by FreddyG:
Our '04 team woulda shut them out...like 35-0 or something. that 89 team couldnt hang my favorite team was the 94 team i think they woulda beat the 89 team for real.

I beg to differ. It took the infusion of Deon Sanders and William Flyd, among others, to put some swag on that 94 team. The 1989 team was just straight up ill!

- 98

I really started following football in '91 so I didnt get to see that team play. Ive seen highlights but that doesnt tell the whole story about how good a team was. The SB against Denver is what made me become a 49er fan. It was the first game I can remember watching.

I remember getting heckled by cocky Bronco fans in the lobby at Caesars South Lake (I was wearing Niner gear of course) the morning of the game. I went to watch the game at my brothers house in Sacramento and just remember thinking in the second quarter how effing miserable those dudes had to be . . .

A bunch of friends and I watched that game, one of those friends was a bandwagon broncos fan. He was bragging about their top ranked defense and how they were going to dominate the niners, so I bet him fifty bucks they would not win, he was so sure after the first five minutes of the game he said we should double the bet. The niners went on to score 7 unanswered touchdown, if I remember correctly. It was a great day.

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:
I'm not trolling, just trying to be an honest non-homer. I know it's considered blasphemous not to assert our dynasty teams were the greatest, but if we're being honest with ourselves, our teams benefitted from weaker competition.

What the 1999 Rams did, as much as we hate their oganization, is incredible. And it's OK if they have the greatest team of all-time...it's the only SB champion team they've ever had. Just like the 85 Bears. Let them enjoy their one spectacular year. The 49ers have 5 rings, even if none of those teams are Top 10 all-time individually. We had sustained excellence.

Damn. The only position Rams had that was better was Faulk.

The 89 49er team would have smashed that Rams team. The Rams won by one yard to the Titans. The very next year they lost to the underdogg Pats and that was the end for them. That's not very spectacular.

Bruce/Holt > Rice/Taylor. Rice is the GOAT, but Taylor, was a bum. And if Holt hadn't gotten hurt, he might be challening Rice's GOAT status. Two first ballot HOF WRs > 1.

Orlando Pace > any 49er lineman. Pace = HOFer.

Kevin Carter had 17 sacks, better than any Niner pass rusher. London Fletcher was better than any Niner linebacker. Ronnie Lott was better than any Ram DB, but Todd Lyght > Don Griffin & Daryl Pollard.

. . . and he's probably going back to the ClanRam forum to tell his buddies he's schooling Niner fans . . .

[ Edited by SonocoNinerFan on Jun 21, 2011 at 09:12:47 ]

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:
I'm not trolling, just trying to be an honest non-homer. I know it's considered blasphemous not to assert our dynasty teams were the greatest, but if we're being honest with ourselves, our teams benefitted from weaker competition.

What the 1999 Rams did, as much as we hate their oganization, is incredible. And it's OK if they have the greatest team of all-time...it's the only SB champion team they've ever had. Just like the 85 Bears. Let them enjoy their one spectacular year. The 49ers have 5 rings, even if none of those teams are Top 10 all-time individually. We had sustained excellence.

Damn. The only position Rams had that was better was Faulk.

The 89 49er team would have smashed that Rams team. The Rams won by one yard to the Titans. The very next year they lost to the underdogg Pats and that was the end for them. That's not very spectacular.

Bruce/Holt > Rice/Taylor. Rice is the GOAT, but Taylor, was a bum. And if Holt hadn't gotten hurt, he might be challening Rice's GOAT status. Two first ballot HOF WRs > 1.

Orlando Pace > any 49er lineman. Pace = HOFer.

Kevin Carter had 17 sacks, better than any Niner pass rusher. London Fletcher was better than any Niner linebacker. Ronnie Lott was better than any Ram DB, but Todd Lyght > Don Griffin & Daryl Pollard.

LOL. Ok you have made it pretty clear you are a Rams fan. But you of all people should know John Taylor was not a bum (Two Receiving TDs of 90+ yards on MNF against your Rams in 1989, as well as a clutch TD to win Super Bowl XXIII)...

I'll give you Orlando Pace, but Kevin Carter? We had Fred Dean and Charles Haley, one HOFer and the other a future HOFer. Kevin Carter will never sniff the HOF.

Todd Lyght? Ever hear of Eric Wright or Dwight Hicks? Far superior players over Todd Lyght. Todd Lyght had one exceptional year in 1999, then was cut after the 2000 season because he was getting abused up and down the field.

Patrick Willis > London Fletcher

And that's all I have to say about that

I'm not a Rams fan. I'm actually insulted you would even think that; I can't STAND them. Part of that reason is they were so good.

Lots of non-sequiturs here. Fred Dean wasn't on the 89 team. Charles Haley may have had a better career, but Carter had 17 sacks in 1999 and was dominant against the run. Haley was weak vs. the run and only had 10.5 sacks in 89. I don't think Haley will ever be in the HOF, either.

Not only did the Rams have Orlando Pace, the best tackle in the NFL, but they also had Timmerman, one of the best guards in the the game, if not THE best. That line was easily was better than our 89 unit.

Eric Wright and Dwight Hicks? Again, not on the 89 team. Well, Wright was, but he was a #4 corner and only played one more season.

Taylor had one good game in his career, as you mentioned. Despite Rice drawing constant double and triple teams, Taylor still put up mediocre numbers. What does that say about him?

He would've been a #3 or #4 receiver on any other team, at best. But Rice was so good the 49ers didn't need a real #2. Holt and Bruce are two of the Top 10 receivers of all-time. Holt may even be Top 5 of all-time. Rice is #1, but Taylor isn't even in the Top 500.

Forgot: Patrick Willis, not on the 89 team. Why are you bringing up all our players from other years and comparing them to Rams players? This is 89 Rams vs. 99 49ers. Fletcher was better than any linebacker on the 89 49ers.

[ Edited by AlexIsClass on Jun 21, 2011 at 14:11:03 ]

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:
I'm not trolling, just trying to be an honest non-homer. I know it's considered blasphemous not to assert our dynasty teams were the greatest, but if we're being honest with ourselves, our teams benefitted from weaker competition.

What the 1999 Rams did, as much as we hate their oganization, is incredible. And it's OK if they have the greatest team of all-time...it's the only SB champion team they've ever had. Just like the 85 Bears. Let them enjoy their one spectacular year. The 49ers have 5 rings, even if none of those teams are Top 10 all-time individually. We had sustained excellence.

Damn. The only position Rams had that was better was Faulk.

The 89 49er team would have smashed that Rams team. The Rams won by one yard to the Titans. The very next year they lost to the underdogg Pats and that was the end for them. That's not very spectacular.

Bruce/Holt > Rice/Taylor. Rice is the GOAT, but Taylor, was a bum. And if Holt hadn't gotten hurt, he might be challening Rice's GOAT status. Two first ballot HOF WRs > 1.

Orlando Pace > any 49er lineman. Pace = HOFer.

Kevin Carter had 17 sacks, better than any Niner pass rusher. London Fletcher was better than any Niner linebacker. Ronnie Lott was better than any Ram DB, but Todd Lyght > Don Griffin & Daryl Pollard.

LOL. Ok you have made it pretty clear you are a Rams fan. But you of all people should know John Taylor was not a bum (Two Receiving TDs of 90+ yards on MNF against your Rams in 1989, as well as a clutch TD to win Super Bowl XXIII)...

I'll give you Orlando Pace, but Kevin Carter? We had Fred Dean and Charles Haley, one HOFer and the other a future HOFer. Kevin Carter will never sniff the HOF.

Todd Lyght? Ever hear of Eric Wright or Dwight Hicks? Far superior players over Todd Lyght. Todd Lyght had one exceptional year in 1999, then was cut after the 2000 season because he was getting abused up and down the field.

Patrick Willis > London Fletcher

And that's all I have to say about that

I'm not a Rams fan. I'm actually insulted you would even think that; I can't STAND them. Part of that reason is they were so good.

Lots of non-sequiturs here. Fred Dean wasn't on the 89 team. Charles Haley may have had a better career, but Carter had 17 sacks in 1999 and was dominant against the run. Haley was weak vs. the run and only had 10.5 sacks in 89. I don't think Haley will ever be in the HOF, either.

Not only did the Rams have Orlando Pace, the best tackle in the NFL, but they also had Timmerman, one of the best guards in the the game, if not THE best. That line was easily was better than our 89 unit.

Eric Wright and Dwight Hicks? Again, not on the 89 team. Well, Wright was, but he was a #4 corner and only played one more season.

Taylor had one good game in his career, as you mentioned. Despite Rice drawing constant double and triple teams, Taylor still put up mediocre numbers. What does that say about him?

He would've been a #3 or #4 receiver on any other team, at best. But Rice was so good the 49ers didn't need a real #2. Holt and Bruce are two of the Top 10 receivers of all-time. Holt may even be Top 5 of all-time. Rice is #1, but Taylor isn't even in the Top 500.

Forgot: Patrick Willis, not on the 89 team. Why are you bringing up all our players from other years and comparing them to Rams players? This is 89 Rams vs. 99 49ers. Fletcher was better than any linebacker on the 89 49ers.

No real Niner fan would ever refer to JT the way you did . . . you're not fooling anybody.

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:
I'm not trolling, just trying to be an honest non-homer. I know it's considered blasphemous not to assert our dynasty teams were the greatest, but if we're being honest with ourselves, our teams benefitted from weaker competition.

What the 1999 Rams did, as much as we hate their oganization, is incredible. And it's OK if they have the greatest team of all-time...it's the only SB champion team they've ever had. Just like the 85 Bears. Let them enjoy their one spectacular year. The 49ers have 5 rings, even if none of those teams are Top 10 all-time individually. We had sustained excellence.

Damn. The only position Rams had that was better was Faulk.

The 89 49er team would have smashed that Rams team. The Rams won by one yard to the Titans. The very next year they lost to the underdogg Pats and that was the end for them. That's not very spectacular.

Bruce/Holt > Rice/Taylor. Rice is the GOAT, but Taylor, was a bum. And if Holt hadn't gotten hurt, he might be challening Rice's GOAT status. Two first ballot HOF WRs > 1.

Orlando Pace > any 49er lineman. Pace = HOFer.

Kevin Carter had 17 sacks, better than any Niner pass rusher. London Fletcher was better than any Niner linebacker. Ronnie Lott was better than any Ram DB, but Todd Lyght > Don Griffin & Daryl Pollard.

LOL. Ok you have made it pretty clear you are a Rams fan. But you of all people should know John Taylor was not a bum (Two Receiving TDs of 90+ yards on MNF against your Rams in 1989, as well as a clutch TD to win Super Bowl XXIII)...

I'll give you Orlando Pace, but Kevin Carter? We had Fred Dean and Charles Haley, one HOFer and the other a future HOFer. Kevin Carter will never sniff the HOF.

Todd Lyght? Ever hear of Eric Wright or Dwight Hicks? Far superior players over Todd Lyght. Todd Lyght had one exceptional year in 1999, then was cut after the 2000 season because he was getting abused up and down the field.

Patrick Willis > London Fletcher

And that's all I have to say about that

I'm not a Rams fan. I'm actually insulted you would even think that; I can't STAND them. Part of that reason is they were so good.

Lots of non-sequiturs here. Fred Dean wasn't on the 89 team. Charles Haley may have had a better career, but Carter had 17 sacks in 1999 and was dominant against the run. Haley was weak vs. the run and only had 10.5 sacks in 89. I don't think Haley will ever be in the HOF, either.

Not only did the Rams have Orlando Pace, the best tackle in the NFL, but they also had Timmerman, one of the best guards in the the game, if not THE best. That line was easily was better than our 89 unit.

Eric Wright and Dwight Hicks? Again, not on the 89 team. Well, Wright was, but he was a #4 corner and only played one more season.

Taylor had one good game in his career, as you mentioned. Despite Rice drawing constant double and triple teams, Taylor still put up mediocre numbers. What does that say about him?

He would've been a #3 or #4 receiver on any other team, at best. But Rice was so good the 49ers didn't need a real #2. Holt and Bruce are two of the Top 10 receivers of all-time. Holt may even be Top 5 of all-time. Rice is #1, but Taylor isn't even in the Top 500.

Forgot: Patrick Willis, not on the 89 team. Why are you bringing up all our players from other years and comparing them to Rams players? This is 89 Rams vs. 99 49ers. Fletcher was better than any linebacker on the 89 49ers.

Haha yeah. I didn't realize you were just talking strictly about 89 49ers vs 99 Rams until after I posted.

I just went on a rant after you said John Taylor was a bum! Surprising to hear that from a "49er fan" because it is incorrect and idiotic. I still question your allegiance.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by AlexIsClass:
I'm not trolling, just trying to be an honest non-homer. I know it's considered blasphemous not to assert our dynasty teams were the greatest, but if we're being honest with ourselves, our teams benefitted from weaker competition.

What the 1999 Rams did, as much as we hate their oganization, is incredible. And it's OK if they have the greatest team of all-time...it's the only SB champion team they've ever had. Just like the 85 Bears. Let them enjoy their one spectacular year. The 49ers have 5 rings, even if none of those teams are Top 10 all-time individually. We had sustained excellence.

Damn. The only position Rams had that was better was Faulk.

The 89 49er team would have smashed that Rams team. The Rams won by one yard to the Titans. The very next year they lost to the underdogg Pats and that was the end for them. That's not very spectacular.

Bruce/Holt > Rice/Taylor. Rice is the GOAT, but Taylor, was a bum. And if Holt hadn't gotten hurt, he might be challening Rice's GOAT status. Two first ballot HOF WRs > 1.

Orlando Pace > any 49er lineman. Pace = HOFer.

Kevin Carter had 17 sacks, better than any Niner pass rusher. London Fletcher was better than any Niner linebacker. Ronnie Lott was better than any Ram DB, but Todd Lyght > Don Griffin & Daryl Pollard.

LOL. Ok you have made it pretty clear you are a Rams fan. But you of all people should know John Taylor was not a bum (Two Receiving TDs of 90+ yards on MNF against your Rams in 1989, as well as a clutch TD to win Super Bowl XXIII)...

I'll give you Orlando Pace, but Kevin Carter? We had Fred Dean and Charles Haley, one HOFer and the other a future HOFer. Kevin Carter will never sniff the HOF.

Todd Lyght? Ever hear of Eric Wright or Dwight Hicks? Far superior players over Todd Lyght. Todd Lyght had one exceptional year in 1999, then was cut after the 2000 season because he was getting abused up and down the field.

Patrick Willis > London Fletcher

And that's all I have to say about that

I'm not a Rams fan. I'm actually insulted you would even think that; I can't STAND them. Part of that reason is they were so good.

Lots of non-sequiturs here. Fred Dean wasn't on the 89 team. Charles Haley may have had a better career, but Carter had 17 sacks in 1999 and was dominant against the run. Haley was weak vs. the run and only had 10.5 sacks in 89. I don't think Haley will ever be in the HOF, either.

Not only did the Rams have Orlando Pace, the best tackle in the NFL, but they also had Timmerman, one of the best guards in the the game, if not THE best. That line was easily was better than our 89 unit.

Eric Wright and Dwight Hicks? Again, not on the 89 team. Well, Wright was, but he was a #4 corner and only played one more season.

Taylor had one good game in his career, as you mentioned. Despite Rice drawing constant double and triple teams, Taylor still put up mediocre numbers. What does that say about him?

He would've been a #3 or #4 receiver on any other team, at best. But Rice was so good the 49ers didn't need a real #2. Holt and Bruce are two of the Top 10 receivers of all-time. Holt may even be Top 5 of all-time. Rice is #1, but Taylor isn't even in the Top 500.

Forgot: Patrick Willis, not on the 89 team. Why are you bringing up all our players from other years and comparing them to Rams players? This is 89 Rams vs. 99 49ers. Fletcher was better than any linebacker on the 89 49ers.

Haha yeah. I didn't realize you were just talking strictly about 89 49ers vs 99 Rams until after I posted.

I just went on a rant after you said John Taylor was a bum! Surprising to hear that from a "49er fan" because it is incorrect and idiotic. I still question your allegiance.

All time 49ers team team > rest of the NFL