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Fortenbaugh (NFP) on the importance of pass-rushers
May 12, 2011 at 4:25 PM
- RichmondPete
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Pass-rushers are without a doubt the most important players on the defensive side of the football.
May 12, 2011 at 4:32 PM
- 49ersalldaway126
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did you know the sky is blue?
May 14, 2011 at 8:29 PM
- tohara3
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Originally posted by RichmondPete:
Pass-rushers are without a doubt the most important players on the defensive side of the football.
May 14, 2011 at 8:55 PM
- monsterzero789
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Got pass rush?
May 14, 2011 at 9:00 PM
- H41L5ATAN
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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
did you know the sky is blue?
Some people require a reminder here and there!
May 14, 2011 at 10:40 PM
- allday
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that was a pretty lame article by an obvious hack
the pats are pretty good without anything close to a dominant pass rusher.
defense is more about scheme and players who make a minimum amount of mistakes as possible.
Of course a guy who can blow up the qb makes everything easier, but in football the first thing you have to be able to do is stop the run. Always has been and always will be.
the pats are pretty good without anything close to a dominant pass rusher.
defense is more about scheme and players who make a minimum amount of mistakes as possible.
Of course a guy who can blow up the qb makes everything easier, but in football the first thing you have to be able to do is stop the run. Always has been and always will be.
May 14, 2011 at 11:19 PM
- hondakillerzx
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harbaughs cousin doesnt know s**t
May 15, 2011 at 9:51 AM
- Prospector
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He will be a great complement to Willis, Soap and Justin Smith.
Great article on Smith on Pro Football Focus .
Great article on Smith on Pro Football Focus .
May 15, 2011 at 9:56 AM
- btthepunk
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I agree. I think he is a better pass rusher and will continue to be a better pass rusher than Blaine Gabbert or Jake Locker will be at quarterback.
May 15, 2011 at 12:49 PM
- mebemused
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Originally posted by allday:
that was a pretty lame article by an obvious hack
the pats are pretty good without anything close to a dominant pass rusher.
defense is more about scheme and players who make a minimum amount of mistakes as possible.
Of course a guy who can blow up the qb makes everything easier, but in football the first thing you have to be able to do is stop the run. Always has been and always will be.
The original article's claim is that the most effective sacking defenses played in the Superbowl. If you can achieve that with your scheme, fine. If you can increase the odds of sacks with physically gifted sack artists, than you are more likely to get to the Superbowl. In contrast, there are many truly gifted, shut-down corners, who may be voted into the Hall of Fame that have never played in the Superbowl. The Pats didn't play in the Superbowl last year, even thought they were pretty good on D.
Because of the rule changes favoring passing, I no longer believe that offenses are constructed to run first to set up the pass. In today's NFL, you can now say that it is equally true that the pass sets up the run.
Having watched 2 years of Singletary's "establish the run first" offense, I can't believe that you would say always has, always will. In contrast, most of the successful offenses use the pass to set up the run as much as they use the run to set up the pass.
May 15, 2011 at 2:57 PM
- BrianGO
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Bill Walsh's Niners always had at least two things. A great quarterback, and a good pash rush. You can usually stop the run by stacking the box with players, but a dime defense doesn't guarantee anything against the pass.
To Nolan's credit, he did try and get a quarterback and pass rush; but his regime wasn't able to identify and/or develop either of them. Lacking ability at the most important positions on defense and offense is why bad teams are bad teams.
Harbaugh's regime obviously knows this, and that is what makes their first two picks in the draft so exciting.
To Nolan's credit, he did try and get a quarterback and pass rush; but his regime wasn't able to identify and/or develop either of them. Lacking ability at the most important positions on defense and offense is why bad teams are bad teams.
Harbaugh's regime obviously knows this, and that is what makes their first two picks in the draft so exciting.
May 15, 2011 at 3:00 PM
- NinerBuff
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Originally posted by BrianGO:
Bill Walsh's Niners always had at least two things. A great quarterback, and a good pash rush. You can usually stop the run by stacking the box with players, but a dime defense doesn't guarantee anything against the pass.
To Nolan's credit, he did try and get a quarterback and pass rush; but his regime wasn't able to identify and/or develop either of them. Lacking ability at the most important positions on defense and offense is why bad teams are bad teams.
Harbaugh's regime obviously knows this, and that is what makes their first two picks in the draft so exciting.
Well said
May 15, 2011 at 3:43 PM
- maxsmart
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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
did you know the sky is blue?
It seems obvious that pass rusher is most imp, but in several years McCloughan never filled the position. (yet most fans here thought McC was great!)
May 15, 2011 at 3:53 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by maxsmart:Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
did you know the sky is blue?
It seems obvious that pass rusher is most imp, but in several years McCloughan never filled the position. (yet most fans here thought McC was great!)
He was an idiot and a drunk. He never fixed the O Line or Pass Rush in all the time he was there.
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on May 15, 2011 at 3:54 PM ]