Originally posted by English:Originally posted by RDB4216:Originally posted by BubbaParisMVP:Originally posted by English:
Nuts? What, you dont believe my story or you dont believe people change?
And where does Ricky Watters fit into your theory?
Ah nuts, I'm sorry about the confusion regarding my use of the term "nuts."
I certainly did not mean to imply that you were nuts, nor did I mean to doubt the veracity of your anecdote.
Your anecdote jived with newspaper reports that described Owens as a very decent kid. That's why I said "nuts." As I mentioned in my second post, it would be so much easier to toss TO in the dumpster, along with Haley, if he didn't start out as such a good kid. You described the Terrell Owens that I found so promising, not the TO that I was happy to see leave the team.
As for Waters, I never had a use for the man and you're right to bring him up as another crack in the wall. But I'm willing to give him his bona fides: he was outstanding in the flat, very difficult to tackle, and the poor SOB had to run sweep left a lot more than was good for him.
Beyond that, though, I don't have much use for Ricky Waters.
Huh? Have you ever actually watched any of these players, or is this just a case of revisionist history?
First off, the title of the thread is about players you wish never were a 49er. You seriously wish Terell Owens was never a 49er because he ran his mouth later in his career? So just throw away the Catch II and breaking the single game receiving record, because he says what's on his mind? Toss him in the dumpster...along with Charles Haley? Who was never really a 49er and quickly left? You mean the same Charles Haley the 49ers drafted? The one that was here for 6 seasons (quickly left?) and was an all-pro in Bill Walsh's defense? The one that had double digit sacks several times for us...and can you remember the last time a 49er had double digit sacks, let alone SIXTEEN in a season? So Haly is trash because he didn't get along with George Siefert? Well Steve Young tried to get into a fist fight with Siefert once, so should he be thrown into the trash too?
And wow, Ricky Watters...the kid who was so unselfish he actually later thanked Lou Holtz for playing him at WR so much (a move some thought cost Watters a shot at the Heisman) because it made him a much better player. The kid who thanked Lou Holtz for having him return kicks/punts, because it made him a more valuable team player in the NFL? A kid that in preaseason got tackled, flipped back onto his feet, and did a spin move going back to the huddle - because he was having fun and happy to be on the field? So you had no use for a 1,000 yard runner that could catch better than any WR on our team right now, someone who scored 3 TD's in the Super Bowl...because he developed a poor attitude AFTER he left the 49ers? Do you even realize why he got that attitude? Becasue his steller play and work ethic got him a contract offer from the 49ers that was WAY BELOW market value! Blame the 49ers for the "For what, for who" line because that was who it was directed at. Oh, and do you remember how long it took the 49ers to find another running back as good as Watters? Oh yeah, they still haven't!
Yeah you're right, wish NONE of those guys had ever been 49ers.
Charlie Garner, Gore...
Watters was a great RB, but lets not forget the Niners teams he was on were stacked.
Maybe its just me but aside from 1 or two seasons where we had the Lawrence Phillips experiment , and Barlow as a starter... RB has never really been an issue with this team.
Edited: my memory isnt as good as the RDB's, Steve young probably made me forget about the immediate post-Watters years.
[ Edited by 5280High on May 26, 2011 at 8:59 AM ]