Hear me out on this: But why Jim Harbaugh?

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:


because he took it to Pete Carroll........and enjoyed it

Boy now wouldnt that be a reunion. Just when Carroll thought he got rid of the guy, there he is again, and now twice a year!

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:

Originally posted by ninerlifer:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Shaj:
I like Harbaugh, but the fervor regarding him makes me very, very nervous. It's the same fervor that was everywhere when Sing got hired. There was irrational exuberance then, and there is irrational exuberance now regarding Harbaugh's experience and track record. If he had a different QB at the helm, do you think we'd even be talking about him? I don't think so...

1) It's not the same ferver as Sing. He was an idiot motivational speaker. I knew that and never bought it. Do you think Dingletary has even 1 clue about offense? Does he have even 1/2 of a clue about QB development. Comparing apples to oranges there. Not the same at all.

2) You assuem it's Luck. You can also say it's Harbaugh. He took nobody QB's here at University of San Diego and made them the absolute best at their level. Coincedence? I don't think so. Coaching and scheme matter too and an understanding of the QB position and QB development.

Was it Joe Montana or Bill Walsh? Is it the Chicken or the Egg? Or both? Walsh was the "genius" who implement the West Coast Offense. Believe it or not that had something to do with Montana's success too.

The truth is it's both. But I'll take my chances on a QB developer, innovative offensive mind and past Pro QB with understanding of those areas any day over a single brain cell LB thumper who doesn't even understand offense. There is no compairson between these 2. None.

LOL, its been a while, but I totally agree with my man SD here

+1

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:

Originally posted by ninerlifer:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Shaj:
I like Harbaugh, but the fervor regarding him makes me very, very nervous. It's the same fervor that was everywhere when Sing got hired. There was irrational exuberance then, and there is irrational exuberance now regarding Harbaugh's experience and track record. If he had a different QB at the helm, do you think we'd even be talking about him? I don't think so...

1) It's not the same ferver as Sing. He was an idiot motivational speaker. I knew that and never bought it. Do you think Dingletary has even 1 clue about offense? Does he have even 1/2 of a clue about QB development. Comparing apples to oranges there. Not the same at all.

2) You assuem it's Luck. You can also say it's Harbaugh. He took nobody QB's here at University of San Diego and made them the absolute best at their level. Coincedence? I don't think so. Coaching and scheme matter too and an understanding of the QB position and QB development.

Was it Joe Montana or Bill Walsh? Is it the Chicken or the Egg? Or both? Walsh was the "genius" who implement the West Coast Offense. Believe it or not that had something to do with Montana's success too.

The truth is it's both. But I'll take my chances on a QB developer, innovative offensive mind and past Pro QB with understanding of those areas any day over a single brain cell LB thumper who doesn't even understand offense. There is no compairson between these 2. None.

LOL, its been a while, but I totally agree with my man SD here

+1

That was an excellent post man.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Shaj:
I like Harbaugh, but the fervor regarding him makes me very, very nervous. It's the same fervor that was everywhere when Sing got hired. There was irrational exuberance then, and there is irrational exuberance now regarding Harbaugh's experience and track record. If he had a different QB at the helm, do you think we'd even be talking about him? I don't think so...

1) It's not the same ferver as Sing. He was an idiot motivational speaker. I knew that and never bought it. Do you think Dingletary has even 1 clue about offense? Does he have even 1/2 of a clue about QB development. Comparing apples to oranges there. Not the same at all.

2) You assuem it's Luck. You can also say it's Harbaugh. He took nobody QB's here at University of San Diego and made them the absolute best at their level. Coincedence? I don't think so. Coaching and scheme matter too and an understanding of the QB position and QB development.

Was it Joe Montana or Bill Walsh? Is it the Chicken or the Egg? Or both? Walsh was the "genius" who implement the West Coast Offense. Believe it or not that had something to do with Montana's success too.

The truth is it's both. But I'll take my chances on a QB developer, innovative offensive mind and past Pro QB with understanding of those areas any day over a single brain cell LB thumper who doesn't even understand offense. There is no compairson between these 2. None.

Good post SD.

The guy has done something even Bill Walsh could not do at Stanford. He had tremendous success at San Diego where they were thinking of getting rid of the football program. The guy just has "it" and is a rising star as a HC and is made for the NFL. He already has an NFL type staff in place at Stanford.

But why male models?

hell no why we do not need another so call ex former great bear f***ing up the franchise again

Originally posted by crabtree15:
hell no why we do not need another so call ex former great bear f***ing up the franchise again

Um, go away? As the guy about 4-5 posts up says, Apples to Oranges. Singletary and Harbaugh are complete opposites.

Originally posted by fropwns:
I am a football fan, but I do not live in Pac-10 country (SEC West baby, you heard of it? ). So, I have an outsider's appreciation for what Jim Harbaugh has done at Stanford--academic institution that is playing in a premier bowl game? Ok, I am impressed.

But is it enough for him to coach the Niners?

And I understand that he met and spoke with Bill Walsh, which around these parts is like talking to Jesus, the Burning Bush, the Prophet, the Buddha, Silent Bob, The "Hoff", "Hef", Yoda, and Chuck Norris.

But is it enough for him to coach the Niners?

And yeah, I remember him as Captain Comeback. I actually liked him when he played for the Colts (drafted by the Bears in 87), I never thought he was great, but good enough to win. A guy that was not hard to like.

It seems like to me that we are trying to catch lightning in a bottle twice. Didn't we already try that with Mike Nolan? His father was a 49er head coach, and some, myself included, bought into his son's love for the helmet. That worked out well for us didn't it? Granted, Harbaugh has head coaching experience, but Nolan had NFL experience. I'll let some of you debate that point away.

Again--and it really is sad that I have to clarify myself on this, but around these parts, you speak a bad word about a fan favorite and they tie you up by your (censored) and make you listen to recordings of Samuari Mike's greatest hits collection--I have no dislike for the guy.

But, are we not doing the same thing by placing all of our collective hopes into the image of Jim Harbaugh? But, instead of a family connection, it is a Bill Walsh one? Hell, is it a niner one:

1. In 1995, he was comeback player of the year with Garrison Hearst

2. His big ten passing efficiency record was broken by Elvis Grbac

The following I lifted from wikipedia (as with the above tidbits); no, I don't trust wiki, but for this type of stuff, and on short notice, this is the best I have:


San Diego Toreros:
2004 San Diego 7–4 4–1 2nd
2005 San Diego 11–1 4–0 1st
2006 San Diego 11–1 7–0 1st
San Diego: 29–6

Stanford Cardinal (Pacific-10 Conference) (2007–present)
2007 Stanford 4–8 3–6 T–7th
2008 Stanford 5–7 4–5 T–6th
2009 Stanford 8–5 6–3 T–2nd L Sun
2010 Stanford 11–1 8–1 2nd Orange †

Stanford: 28–21 21–15

Total: 57–27

Is this enough of a resume to lay the hopes of the next five years or longer on?

Again, I have no agenda here, I like the guy, hope to hell if we get him that he wins, and this will probably get merged, but I am curious about why Harbaugh has captured the hearts and minds of many 49ers fans.

I can see the Gruden and Holmgren stuff--granted, you can make the Walsh connection to them, but both of them have won in the NFL. But, are we pinning for Harbaugh because we think he is the next Bill Walsh, and if so, isn't that a rather dumb thing to do?



EDIT: Here is not HEAR

EDIT 2: I can't f*cking spell today: lightning

Fro,

Even you didn't just wake up one day and become the skilled man that you are (looking at the spell check results). I'm sure there were failures and setbacks along your path (just like the rest of us).

What I'm getting at, is that the important thing is what our next coach does; not what he has already done. This is where we need to hope like hell Jed hires in a solid GM that knows what to look for in a winning NFL head coach and can find a future star.

But, as far as Jim... I'm sure none of us will know for sure if he can or cannot be the guy.

Harbaugh is the gold ticket, he really is. He has so many f**king connections to NFL coordinators/assistants for being just a mere college coach (his family name is generations deep in coaching linage).

There probably isn't any other college coach more ready for the NFL than Jim Harbaugh, we just gotta get him!!!

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Harbaugh is the gold ticket, he really is. He has so many f**king connections to NFL coordinators/assistants for being just a mere college coach (his family name is generations deep in coaching linage).

There probably isn't any other college coach more ready for the NFL than Jim Harbaugh, we just gotta get him!!!

i'd have him sign the contract before he even got off the field at the end of the orange bowl

Sometimes there just isn't a good reason.

He is is a good offensive coach, DO IT!

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:

Originally posted by ninerlifer:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Shaj:
I like Harbaugh, but the fervor regarding him makes me very, very nervous. It's the same fervor that was everywhere when Sing got hired. There was irrational exuberance then, and there is irrational exuberance now regarding Harbaugh's experience and track record. If he had a different QB at the helm, do you think we'd even be talking about him? I don't think so...

1) It's not the same ferver as Sing. He was an idiot motivational speaker. I knew that and never bought it. Do you think Dingletary has even 1 clue about offense? Does he have even 1/2 of a clue about QB development. Comparing apples to oranges there. Not the same at all.

2) You assuem it's Luck. You can also say it's Harbaugh. He took nobody QB's here at University of San Diego and made them the absolute best at their level. Coincedence? I don't think so. Coaching and scheme matter too and an understanding of the QB position and QB development.

Was it Joe Montana or Bill Walsh? Is it the Chicken or the Egg? Or both? Walsh was the "genius" who implement the West Coast Offense. Believe it or not that had something to do with Montana's success too.

The truth is it's both. But I'll take my chances on a QB developer, innovative offensive mind and past Pro QB with understanding of those areas any day over a single brain cell LB thumper who doesn't even understand offense. There is no compairson between these 2. None.

LOL, its been a while, but I totally agree with my man SD here

+1

That was an excellent post man.

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Harbaugh is the gold ticket, he really is. He has so many f**king connections to NFL coordinators/assistants for being just a mere college coach (his family name is generations deep in coaching linage).

There probably isn't any other college coach more ready for the NFL than Jim Harbaugh, we just gotta get him!!!

Originally posted by crzy:
Because he's a good football coach period.


I mean if people area looking for a perfect coaching candidate then you won't find one.


Gruden and Cowher are retreads with faults as well.

You can pick apart any coaching candidate if you try hard enough.

...and the 'zone will big time