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  • jimrat
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by RichnSanRamon:
Baalke's resume is the talent on the field. The reason every pundit in the world, including Kawakami, including Cohn, picked the Niners to win the NFC West this year was that the talent on the field was clearly there. That is not even an arguable point.

So if you don't trust York to make a good GM hire decsion, you should be cheering for him to retain the one proven commodity he has -- Baalke.

But if you trust York to make a good GM hire decision, then you cheer for him to get someone better.

People forget - this was the 2010 49er Offseason from a GM perspective:

1)Willis extended
2) Davis extended
3) Ted Ginn brought in for a 6th (no loss there for a WR/PR/KR)
4) Decent draft with 2 starters and a up-and-coming back-up
6) Sims re-signed for 2 years (brilliant signing)
5) Brian Westbrook signed back-up to Gore (brilliant signing)
6) All first round picks signed well before training camp
7) Didn't cave in to Manny Lawson
8) Didn't cave in to Abruyo Franklin
9) Didn't cave in to extending Dashon Goldson but drafted his replacement
10) Travis LaBoy signed (had almost as many sacks as Haralson and Lawson combined)

Maybe it's me but that's a kick-ass GM off-season for the 49ers. This is MUCH better than the drunken McCloughan decisions.

Tell me what's wrong with this list as a GM.

Do I think this is enough to make him GM? Maybe not, but that's a damn good start in my opinion. What's insane to me is Baalke is getting hammered for "the failure on the field." I agree with Kawakami that Singletary was allowed to run a muck but that's the power structure Jed created. Singletary inherited Nolan's role. That MUST be changed. Maybe it is ..... but Baalke, IMHO saved what respectability was left.

Imagine just how angry the NT would be without Sims, Westbrook or LaBoy. Adam Snyder playing LT, a rook who has problems keeping his feet at RB and absolutely no pass-rush at all.

Everyone's head would have exploded.

Not to mention he had LaGarrett Blount in our hands before the Titans persuaded him to go there.
  • obx49
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Originally posted by jimrat201:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by RichnSanRamon:
Baalke's resume is the talent on the field. The reason every pundit in the world, including Kawakami, including Cohn, picked the Niners to win the NFC West this year was that the talent on the field was clearly there. That is not even an arguable point.

So if you don't trust York to make a good GM hire decsion, you should be cheering for him to retain the one proven commodity he has -- Baalke.

But if you trust York to make a good GM hire decision, then you cheer for him to get someone better.

People forget - this was the 2010 49er Offseason from a GM perspective:

1)Willis extended
2) Davis extended
3) Ted Ginn brought in for a 6th (no loss there for a WR/PR/KR)
4) Decent draft with 2 starters and a up-and-coming back-up
6) Sims re-signed for 2 years (brilliant signing)
5) Brian Westbrook signed back-up to Gore (brilliant signing)
6) All first round picks signed well before training camp
7) Didn't cave in to Manny Lawson
8) Didn't cave in to Abruyo Franklin
9) Didn't cave in to extending Dashon Goldson but drafted his replacement
10) Travis LaBoy signed (had almost as many sacks as Haralson and Lawson combined)

Maybe it's me but that's a kick-ass GM off-season for the 49ers. This is MUCH better than the drunken McCloughan decisions.

Tell me what's wrong with this list as a GM.

Do I think this is enough to make him GM? Maybe not, but that's a damn good start in my opinion. What's insane to me is Baalke is getting hammered for "the failure on the field." I agree with Kawakami that Singletary was allowed to run a muck but that's the power structure Jed created. Singletary inherited Nolan's role. That MUST be changed. Maybe it is ..... but Baalke, IMHO saved what respectability was left.

Imagine just how angry the NT would be without Sims, Westbrook or LaBoy. Adam Snyder playing LT, a rook who has problems keeping his feet at RB and absolutely no pass-rush at all.

Everyone's head would have exploded.

Not to mention he had LaGarrett Blount in our hands before the Titans persuaded him to go there.


Don't remind me... Could you imagine a one-two punch with Gore and Blount...
Hate to say it but Kawakami has been pretty dead on about the 49ers the last 5+ years
Originally posted by obx49:
Originally posted by jimrat201:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by RichnSanRamon:
Baalke's resume is the talent on the field. The reason every pundit in the world, including Kawakami, including Cohn, picked the Niners to win the NFC West this year was that the talent on the field was clearly there. That is not even an arguable point.

So if you don't trust York to make a good GM hire decsion, you should be cheering for him to retain the one proven commodity he has -- Baalke.

But if you trust York to make a good GM hire decision, then you cheer for him to get someone better.

People forget - this was the 2010 49er Offseason from a GM perspective:

1)Willis extended
2) Davis extended
3) Ted Ginn brought in for a 6th (no loss there for a WR/PR/KR)
4) Decent draft with 2 starters and a up-and-coming back-up
6) Sims re-signed for 2 years (brilliant signing)
5) Brian Westbrook signed back-up to Gore (brilliant signing)
6) All first round picks signed well before training camp
7) Didn't cave in to Manny Lawson
8) Didn't cave in to Abruyo Franklin
9) Didn't cave in to extending Dashon Goldson but drafted his replacement
10) Travis LaBoy signed (had almost as many sacks as Haralson and Lawson combined)

Maybe it's me but that's a kick-ass GM off-season for the 49ers. This is MUCH better than the drunken McCloughan decisions.

Tell me what's wrong with this list as a GM.

Do I think this is enough to make him GM? Maybe not, but that's a damn good start in my opinion. What's insane to me is Baalke is getting hammered for "the failure on the field." I agree with Kawakami that Singletary was allowed to run a muck but that's the power structure Jed created. Singletary inherited Nolan's role. That MUST be changed. Maybe it is ..... but Baalke, IMHO saved what respectability was left.

Imagine just how angry the NT would be without Sims, Westbrook or LaBoy. Adam Snyder playing LT, a rook who has problems keeping his feet at RB and absolutely no pass-rush at all.

Everyone's head would have exploded.

Not to mention he had LaGarrett Blount in our hands before the Titans persuaded him to go there.


Don't remind me... Could you imagine a one-two punch with Gore and Blount...

like i was saying on sunday. blount would be uknown in the NFL right now if the niners signed him. he would have been on the practice squad.
Originally posted by PatrickJira411:
Hate to say it but Kawakami has been pretty dead on about the 49ers the last 5+ years

cosigned
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Originally posted by obx49:
Originally posted by jimrat201:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by RichnSanRamon:
Baalke's resume is the talent on the field. The reason every pundit in the world, including Kawakami, including Cohn, picked the Niners to win the NFC West this year was that the talent on the field was clearly there. That is not even an arguable point.

So if you don't trust York to make a good GM hire decsion, you should be cheering for him to retain the one proven commodity he has -- Baalke.

But if you trust York to make a good GM hire decision, then you cheer for him to get someone better.

People forget - this was the 2010 49er Offseason from a GM perspective:

1)Willis extended
2) Davis extended
3) Ted Ginn brought in for a 6th (no loss there for a WR/PR/KR)
4) Decent draft with 2 starters and a up-and-coming back-up
6) Sims re-signed for 2 years (brilliant signing)
5) Brian Westbrook signed back-up to Gore (brilliant signing)
6) All first round picks signed well before training camp
7) Didn't cave in to Manny Lawson
8) Didn't cave in to Abruyo Franklin
9) Didn't cave in to extending Dashon Goldson but drafted his replacement
10) Travis LaBoy signed (had almost as many sacks as Haralson and Lawson combined)

Maybe it's me but that's a kick-ass GM off-season for the 49ers. This is MUCH better than the drunken McCloughan decisions.

Tell me what's wrong with this list as a GM.

Do I think this is enough to make him GM? Maybe not, but that's a damn good start in my opinion. What's insane to me is Baalke is getting hammered for "the failure on the field." I agree with Kawakami that Singletary was allowed to run a muck but that's the power structure Jed created. Singletary inherited Nolan's role. That MUST be changed. Maybe it is ..... but Baalke, IMHO saved what respectability was left.

Imagine just how angry the NT would be without Sims, Westbrook or LaBoy. Adam Snyder playing LT, a rook who has problems keeping his feet at RB and absolutely no pass-rush at all.

Everyone's head would have exploded.

Not to mention he had LaGarrett Blount in our hands before the Titans persuaded him to go there.


Don't remind me... Could you imagine a one-two punch with Gore and Blount...

like i was saying on sunday. blount would be uknown in the NFL right now if the niners signed him. he would have been on the practice squad.

We can safely blame that one on Singletary and his man crush on Frank Gore.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
As usual............the truth hurts. If this Baalke stuff is true and Jed goes for the easy solution instead of actually taking his time to find the "right man for the job", get used to another 5 years of losing.

I told everybody. I called it. Same Yorks...

was 1 saying this myself...it's the dorks
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
2. What is the basis to state he is not capable of doing the job? Just because he is in the organization does not mean he is worthless, I would be concerned if he is a "yes man", which is something you could get from an outsider.

Baalke has never been a GM in title or responsibility. Until McCloughan's departure late in the draft prep, he was never in charge of the draft. He was the director of player personnel for ONE year before getting his "promotion". Does that sound like the guy you want to reshape the football operations of our Niners?

In case you haven't noticed, our organization has been a mess ever since the Yorks took over 8 years ago. If you want to see real change, why would you hire someone from within? This possibility just shows that Jed is blowing smoke up our ass about finding a GM who will make all the decisions going forward about our football operations.

THE YORKS ARE THE F*CKING OWNERS OF THE TEAM! GET USED TO IT!

If you can't look beyond the fact that the Yorks own the team, then why don't you go post somewhere else - on another team's web site?

You don't like the Yorks. You have no faith that the Yorks can build a winning team. We all know that. You and those who share your views have made it perfectly clear.

So since in your minds, the 49ers are hopeless, then why do you waste your time here? There will never again be a 49er winning team, at least not as long as the Yorks own the team. That's your position, right? We have read it time and time again.

How about SHUTTING UP NOW?!

The Yorks are the owners; if you can't say anything good about the team with the Yorks as owners, then get out of there, for God's sake! We are tired of hearing from you and your naysayer comrades!
  • obx49
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Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Originally posted by obx49:
Originally posted by jimrat201:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by RichnSanRamon:
Baalke's resume is the talent on the field. The reason every pundit in the world, including Kawakami, including Cohn, picked the Niners to win the NFC West this year was that the talent on the field was clearly there. That is not even an arguable point.

So if you don't trust York to make a good GM hire decsion, you should be cheering for him to retain the one proven commodity he has -- Baalke.

But if you trust York to make a good GM hire decision, then you cheer for him to get someone better.

People forget - this was the 2010 49er Offseason from a GM perspective:

1)Willis extended
2) Davis extended
3) Ted Ginn brought in for a 6th (no loss there for a WR/PR/KR)
4) Decent draft with 2 starters and a up-and-coming back-up
6) Sims re-signed for 2 years (brilliant signing)
5) Brian Westbrook signed back-up to Gore (brilliant signing)
6) All first round picks signed well before training camp
7) Didn't cave in to Manny Lawson
8) Didn't cave in to Abruyo Franklin
9) Didn't cave in to extending Dashon Goldson but drafted his replacement
10) Travis LaBoy signed (had almost as many sacks as Haralson and Lawson combined)

Maybe it's me but that's a kick-ass GM off-season for the 49ers. This is MUCH better than the drunken McCloughan decisions.

Tell me what's wrong with this list as a GM.

Do I think this is enough to make him GM? Maybe not, but that's a damn good start in my opinion. What's insane to me is Baalke is getting hammered for "the failure on the field." I agree with Kawakami that Singletary was allowed to run a muck but that's the power structure Jed created. Singletary inherited Nolan's role. That MUST be changed. Maybe it is ..... but Baalke, IMHO saved what respectability was left.

Imagine just how angry the NT would be without Sims, Westbrook or LaBoy. Adam Snyder playing LT, a rook who has problems keeping his feet at RB and absolutely no pass-rush at all.

Everyone's head would have exploded.

Not to mention he had LaGarrett Blount in our hands before the Titans persuaded him to go there.


Don't remind me... Could you imagine a one-two punch with Gore and Blount...

like i was saying on sunday. blount would be uknown in the NFL right now if the niners signed him. he would have been on the practice squad.

Very, very true. I made the same argument in another thread about Nate Davis. I said if Singletary had a Tom Brady just coming out of college then under Sing he would have been cut and kept Alex as the starter.
Originally posted by obx49:
Originally posted by jimrat201:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by RichnSanRamon:
Baalke's resume is the talent on the field. The reason every pundit in the world, including Kawakami, including Cohn, picked the Niners to win the NFC West this year was that the talent on the field was clearly there. That is not even an arguable point.

So if you don't trust York to make a good GM hire decsion, you should be cheering for him to retain the one proven commodity he has -- Baalke.

But if you trust York to make a good GM hire decision, then you cheer for him to get someone better.

People forget - this was the 2010 49er Offseason from a GM perspective:

1)Willis extended
2) Davis extended
3) Ted Ginn brought in for a 6th (no loss there for a WR/PR/KR)
4) Decent draft with 2 starters and a up-and-coming back-up
6) Sims re-signed for 2 years (brilliant signing)
5) Brian Westbrook signed back-up to Gore (brilliant signing)
6) All first round picks signed well before training camp
7) Didn't cave in to Manny Lawson
8) Didn't cave in to Abruyo Franklin
9) Didn't cave in to extending Dashon Goldson but drafted his replacement
10) Travis LaBoy signed (had almost as many sacks as Haralson and Lawson combined)

Maybe it's me but that's a kick-ass GM off-season for the 49ers. This is MUCH better than the drunken McCloughan decisions.

Tell me what's wrong with this list as a GM.

Do I think this is enough to make him GM? Maybe not, but that's a damn good start in my opinion. What's insane to me is Baalke is getting hammered for "the failure on the field." I agree with Kawakami that Singletary was allowed to run a muck but that's the power structure Jed created. Singletary inherited Nolan's role. That MUST be changed. Maybe it is ..... but Baalke, IMHO saved what respectability was left.

Imagine just how angry the NT would be without Sims, Westbrook or LaBoy. Adam Snyder playing LT, a rook who has problems keeping his feet at RB and absolutely no pass-rush at all.

Everyone's head would have exploded.

Not to mention he had LaGarrett Blount in our hands before the Titans persuaded him to go there.


Don't remind me... Could you imagine a one-two punch with Gore and Blount...

That kinda sht happens though. Who would have known that an undrafted trouble maker would have success in his rookie year.
  • obx49
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Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by obx49:
Originally posted by jimrat201:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by RichnSanRamon:
Baalke's resume is the talent on the field. The reason every pundit in the world, including Kawakami, including Cohn, picked the Niners to win the NFC West this year was that the talent on the field was clearly there. That is not even an arguable point.

So if you don't trust York to make a good GM hire decsion, you should be cheering for him to retain the one proven commodity he has -- Baalke.

But if you trust York to make a good GM hire decision, then you cheer for him to get someone better.

People forget - this was the 2010 49er Offseason from a GM perspective:

1)Willis extended
2) Davis extended
3) Ted Ginn brought in for a 6th (no loss there for a WR/PR/KR)
4) Decent draft with 2 starters and a up-and-coming back-up
6) Sims re-signed for 2 years (brilliant signing)
5) Brian Westbrook signed back-up to Gore (brilliant signing)
6) All first round picks signed well before training camp
7) Didn't cave in to Manny Lawson
8) Didn't cave in to Abruyo Franklin
9) Didn't cave in to extending Dashon Goldson but drafted his replacement
10) Travis LaBoy signed (had almost as many sacks as Haralson and Lawson combined)

Maybe it's me but that's a kick-ass GM off-season for the 49ers. This is MUCH better than the drunken McCloughan decisions.

Tell me what's wrong with this list as a GM.

Do I think this is enough to make him GM? Maybe not, but that's a damn good start in my opinion. What's insane to me is Baalke is getting hammered for "the failure on the field." I agree with Kawakami that Singletary was allowed to run a muck but that's the power structure Jed created. Singletary inherited Nolan's role. That MUST be changed. Maybe it is ..... but Baalke, IMHO saved what respectability was left.

Imagine just how angry the NT would be without Sims, Westbrook or LaBoy. Adam Snyder playing LT, a rook who has problems keeping his feet at RB and absolutely no pass-rush at all.

Everyone's head would have exploded.

Not to mention he had LaGarrett Blount in our hands before the Titans persuaded him to go there.


Don't remind me... Could you imagine a one-two punch with Gore and Blount...

That kinda sht happens though. Who would have known that an undrafted trouble maker would have success in his rookie year.

Yea, it does happen. I pretty sure the Jets are kicking themselves about Danny Woodhead.
  • jimrat
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Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by obx49:
Originally posted by jimrat201:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by RichnSanRamon:
Baalke's resume is the talent on the field. The reason every pundit in the world, including Kawakami, including Cohn, picked the Niners to win the NFC West this year was that the talent on the field was clearly there. That is not even an arguable point.

So if you don't trust York to make a good GM hire decsion, you should be cheering for him to retain the one proven commodity he has -- Baalke.

But if you trust York to make a good GM hire decision, then you cheer for him to get someone better.

People forget - this was the 2010 49er Offseason from a GM perspective:

1)Willis extended
2) Davis extended
3) Ted Ginn brought in for a 6th (no loss there for a WR/PR/KR)
4) Decent draft with 2 starters and a up-and-coming back-up
6) Sims re-signed for 2 years (brilliant signing)
5) Brian Westbrook signed back-up to Gore (brilliant signing)
6) All first round picks signed well before training camp
7) Didn't cave in to Manny Lawson
8) Didn't cave in to Abruyo Franklin
9) Didn't cave in to extending Dashon Goldson but drafted his replacement
10) Travis LaBoy signed (had almost as many sacks as Haralson and Lawson combined)

Maybe it's me but that's a kick-ass GM off-season for the 49ers. This is MUCH better than the drunken McCloughan decisions.

Tell me what's wrong with this list as a GM.

Do I think this is enough to make him GM? Maybe not, but that's a damn good start in my opinion. What's insane to me is Baalke is getting hammered for "the failure on the field." I agree with Kawakami that Singletary was allowed to run a muck but that's the power structure Jed created. Singletary inherited Nolan's role. That MUST be changed. Maybe it is ..... but Baalke, IMHO saved what respectability was left.

Imagine just how angry the NT would be without Sims, Westbrook or LaBoy. Adam Snyder playing LT, a rook who has problems keeping his feet at RB and absolutely no pass-rush at all.

Everyone's head would have exploded.

Not to mention he had LaGarrett Blount in our hands before the Titans persuaded him to go there.


Don't remind me... Could you imagine a one-two punch with Gore and Blount...

That kinda sht happens though. Who would have known that an undrafted trouble maker would have success in his rookie year.

My comment had nothing to do about whether anyone knew Blount was gonna have a good year but that NinerGm pointed out all the positives Baalke done so far since he took over and how he had Blount just about signed before he change his mind.
  • Hopper
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Tk is going to have a field day ripping Jed. He's next in line now that Cohan sold.
Gotta admit, when I 1st heard this mess about Baalke interviewing for the job, I was like "so the f**k what?". Let the man interview, he's done a good job here in my estimation, and deserves the chance to better his position with the organization. But every day this thing just seems to be taking on a life of it's own (helped along rather sweetly by the media) and now it has me thinking...

I could be way out to lunch, so if that's the case I hope somebody will straighten me out, but if there's a lockout after this CBA expires, does anybody get paid? Contract or not, I'm pretty sure nobody's making any money during a work stoppage and on top of that, the individuals who are under contract would still owe a year of service, as no services will have been rendered during the work stoppage. If this is in fact the case, then maybe this search really is just "window dressing" to appease the mob. Nobody in their right mind would leave their current gigs to sign a NFL contract, just to be put on a shelf somewhere to collect dust while the owners and players have their duel; especially if that person happens to be coveted by one of the biggest collegiate programs on the planet, but that's sort of another debate.

If this is the case then I gotta say: I'm disappointed in Jed, because he truly will have established himself as his fathers son if he put this charade on just to shut us up while he slides a new human shield in between his family and the fans. His dad did it to him, and nothing from what I've seen from this family in over a decade would lead me to believe that they wouldn't pull another sneaky at least 1 more time.

I could be completely paranoid, or maybe I'm just reading too much of SanDiego's stuff lately , but as of today, I don't like where this is headed. The media is really drumming this thing up to a level where it's hard to look at it objectively, and we should always be mindful of their shenanigans. It's still hard to trust this family after more than a decade of their sh*t. Not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

It's still early in the process and Jed's hands are sort of tied when it comes to even speaking with some of the candidates that may or may not be on the short list, so we'll see what happens. He said he'll make good and I believe em until he makes a donkey out of me 1 more time. All I can say is if he promotes Baalke right after the season's over and then we immediately go and throw a bunch of money at Harbaugh, then life could be worse. It would still signal that Jed had no intention of running a proper interview and told us another load of porky pies...sort of; it seems to be the family motto to get away with whatever you can get away with, until you get your pp slapped...or threatened with jail time...or sued. What a life lol!
Originally posted by NatralBrnThrila:
Gotta admit, when I 1st heard this mess about Baalke interviewing for the job, I was like "so the f**k what?". Let the man interview, he's done a good job here in my estimation, and deserves the chance to better his position with the organization. But every day this thing just seems to be taking on a life of it's own (helped along rather sweetly by the media) and now it has me thinking...

I could be way out to lunch, so if that's the case I hope somebody will straighten me out, but if there's a lockout after this CBA expires, does anybody get paid? Contract or not, I'm pretty sure nobody's making any money during a work stoppage and on top of that, the individuals who are under contract would still owe a year of service, as no services will have been rendered during the work stoppage. If this is in fact the case, then maybe this search really is just "window dressing" to appease the mob. Nobody in their right mind would leave their current gigs to sign a NFL contract, just to be put on a shelf somewhere to collect dust while the owners and players have their duel; especially if that person happens to be coveted by one of the biggest collegiate programs on the planet, but that's sort of another debate.

If this is the case then I gotta say: I'm disappointed in Jed, because he truly will have established himself as his fathers son if he put this charade on just to shut us up while he slides a new human shield in between his family and the fans. His dad did it to him, and nothing from what I've seen from this family in over a decade would lead me to believe that they wouldn't pull another sneaky at least 1 more time.

I could be completely paranoid, or maybe I'm just reading too much of SanDiego's stuff lately , but as of today, I don't like where this is headed. The media is really drumming this thing up to a level where it's hard to look at it objectively, and we should always be mindful of their shenanigans. It's still hard to trust this family after more than a decade of their sh*t. Not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

It's still early in the process and Jed's hands are sort of tied when it comes to even speaking with some of the candidates that may or may not be on the short list, so we'll see what happens. He said he'll make good and I believe em until he makes a donkey out of me 1 more time. All I can say is if he promotes Baalke right after the season's over and then we immediately go and throw a bunch of money at Harbaugh, then life could be worse. It would still signal that Jed had no intention of running a proper interview and told us another load of porky pies...sort of; it seems to be the family motto to get away with whatever you can get away with, until you get your pp slapped...or threatened with jail time...or sued. What a life lol![/quote]

You should read more... I don't like where it's going either.
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