Carr.....1.5 million?

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by susweel:
Well Smith got 50 million.

can you go 1 day without s**t talking an injured QB?

Just trying to point out that 1.5 million is chump change as far NFL QBs salaries go.

then why don't you say will JaMarcus got 61 million

That would be installing the middle man when we all know it's going to turn towards Alex anyways. He's just skipping the middle man.

yea, and this is NINERtalk, not RAIDERtalk

As far as money goes Alex is no where near the top of the list of top paid QB's who failed

Yah but he's the one on OUR TEAM.

Carr.....1.5 million?

Seems like Carr was brought in by then, GM McCloughan. Seems Singletary was never a fan of the move, but since Carr was here, he would just deal with it passively. So after Carr showed us what he's about, Mike was quick to put him on the bench. The reason he's not cut is because Mike thinks even less of Nate Davis... and with Alex hurt, we still need depth should something happen to Troy this Sunday.

Originally posted by Negrodamus:
Carr.....1.5 million?

Originally posted by oldman9er:
Seems like Carr was brought in by then, GM McCloughan. Seems Singletary was never a fan of the move, but since Carr was here, he would just deal with it passively. So after Carr showed us what he's about, Mike was quick to put him on the bench. The reason he's not cut is because Mike thinks even less of Nate Davis... and with Alex hurt, we still need depth should something happen to Troy this Sunday.

Do you really take what Singletary thinks of Nate Davis with any credibility and that all of a sudden Singletary thinks Carr is a joke? To me, it seems as though Singletary does what his OC tells him. It seems as though Johnson already has an influence on what he thinks of Carr.

I will take Johnson's thoughts on Nate over Singletary's and Johnson thought highly of Nate Davis.

As for Carr, I think there are 1.5 million reasons why he was #2 and now Singletary has changed his mind of the #2 status in a heartbeat. I wonder if Singletary would also change his mind about Nate Davis soon when Johnson tells him we need to try and develop him.

Carr had the worst performance I have every seen from a veteran QB, no joke. We need to cut this moron and promote Davis. Carr didn't have one redeeming quality to his game. Carr is worthless, ike a chick with a busted face and a stick figure.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by oldman9er:
Seems like Carr was brought in by then, GM McCloughan. Seems Singletary was never a fan of the move, but since Carr was here, he would just deal with it passively. So after Carr showed us what he's about, Mike was quick to put him on the bench. The reason he's not cut is because Mike thinks even less of Nate Davis... and with Alex hurt, we still need depth should something happen to Troy this Sunday.

Do you really take what Singletary thinks of Nate Davis with any credibility and that all of a sudden Singletary thinks Carr is a joke? To me, it seems as though Singletary does what his OC tells him. It seems as though Johnson already has an influence on what he thinks of Carr.

I will take Johnson's thoughts on Nate over Singletary's and Johnson thought highly of Nate Davis.

As for Carr, I think there are 1.5 million reasons why he was #2 and now Singletary has changed his mind of the #2 status in a heartbeat. I wonder if Singletary would also change his mind about Nate Davis soon when Johnson tells him we need to try and develop him.

Keep in mind that they released Nate Davis and still no one claimed him. Subsequent to that, he was placed on the practise squad. If he's got as much talent as people think he does, how do you rationalize the decision by all the other teams in the NFL to pass on him? The 49ers themselves signed two QB's since acquiring Nate in Carr and Troy Smith. What does that tell you about Nate Davis? There is more to quarterbacking than a rocket arm.

I really think this move to start Troy Smith smells of desperation on Singletary's part. He's had Carr as his number 2 quarterback all year, and when he's called into duty the first thing Mike does is yank him? I thought Mike Singletary was an inspirational leader? I thought he could motivate his players to play beyond their abilities. Maybe Mike needs to watch Remember the Titans and what Coach Boone did to motivate Sunshine. Instead, his now got a pissed of Team Captain C in Heitmann, a pissed off Alex Smith, and a pissed of David Carr. You tell me what's going to happen next...

Originally posted by Joecool:

Do you really take what Singletary thinks of Nate Davis with any credibility and that all of a sudden Singletary thinks Carr is a joke?

I offered no opinion on what I think of Mike's opinion of Nate. Only that it is apparent that Mike thinks that. I have no strong opinion of Nate one way or another. As for Carr, I feel that Mike was somewhat forced to accept him thanks to his GM, McC. So I think Mike always felt that Carr was a joke... but gave him a brief chance to change his mind.

Who cares. Lets just win games.

http://twitter.com/MaioccoCSN

Quote:
Coach Mike Singletary doesn't know what he has in Troy Smith, but he knew he didn't want David Carr as 49ers QB.

http://bit.ly/8XGtpI

Originally posted by oldman9er:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Do you really take what Singletary thinks of Nate Davis with any credibility and that all of a sudden Singletary thinks Carr is a joke?

I offered no opinion on what I think of Mike's opinion of Nate. Only that it is apparent that Mike thinks that. I have no strong opinion of Nate one way or another. As for Carr, I feel that Mike was somewhat forced to accept him thanks to his GM, McC. So I think Mike always felt that Carr was a joke... but gave him a brief chance to change his mind.

I didn't say you offered that opinion which was why I asked you who's opinion of Nate would you hold more credible, Mike Johnson's or Mike Singletary because it was apparent Mike Johnson vouched to keep Nate Davis as #3. Not my opinion either, just that Mike Johnson thinks that.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by oldman9er:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Do you really take what Singletary thinks of Nate Davis with any credibility and that all of a sudden Singletary thinks Carr is a joke?

I offered no opinion on what I think of Mike's opinion of Nate. Only that it is apparent that Mike thinks that. I have no strong opinion of Nate one way or another. As for Carr, I feel that Mike was somewhat forced to accept him thanks to his GM, McC. So I think Mike always felt that Carr was a joke... but gave him a brief chance to change his mind.

I didn't say you offered that opinion which was why I asked you who's opinion of Nate would you hold more credible, Mike Johnson's or Mike Singletary because it was apparent Mike Johnson vouched to keep Nate Davis as #3. Not my opinion either, just that Mike Johnson thinks that.

I would lean towards Mike Johnson's credibility when evaluating QBs... though that could be hard for some of you, as M.J. is a fan of Nate Davis, Troy Smith, and... wait for it.... Alex Smith.

Originally posted by bzborow1:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by oldman9er:
Seems like Carr was brought in by then, GM McCloughan. Seems Singletary was never a fan of the move, but since Carr was here, he would just deal with it passively. So after Carr showed us what he's about, Mike was quick to put him on the bench. The reason he's not cut is because Mike thinks even less of Nate Davis... and with Alex hurt, we still need depth should something happen to Troy this Sunday.

Do you really take what Singletary thinks of Nate Davis with any credibility and that all of a sudden Singletary thinks Carr is a joke? To me, it seems as though Singletary does what his OC tells him. It seems as though Johnson already has an influence on what he thinks of Carr.

I will take Johnson's thoughts on Nate over Singletary's and Johnson thought highly of Nate Davis.

As for Carr, I think there are 1.5 million reasons why he was #2 and now Singletary has changed his mind of the #2 status in a heartbeat. I wonder if Singletary would also change his mind about Nate Davis soon when Johnson tells him we need to try and develop him.

Keep in mind that they released Nate Davis and still no one claimed him. Subsequent to that, he was placed on the practise squad. If he's got as much talent as people think he does, how do you rationalize the decision by all the other teams in the NFL to pass on him? The 49ers themselves signed two QB's since acquiring Nate in Carr and Troy Smith. What does that tell you about Nate Davis? There is more to quarterbacking than a rocket arm.

I really think this move to start Troy Smith smells of desperation on Singletary's part. He's had Carr as his number 2 quarterback all year, and when he's called into duty the first thing Mike does is yank him? I thought Mike Singletary was an inspirational leader? I thought he could motivate his players to play beyond their abilities. Maybe Mike needs to watch Remember the Titans and what Coach Boone did to motivate Sunshine. Instead, his now got a pissed of Team Captain C in Heitmann, a pissed off Alex Smith, and a pissed of David Carr. You tell me what's going to happen next...

Teams pass on 3rd string QB's that late in the process due to a number of reasons (3 current QB's already understand playbook or headset duties, team has already invested in developing current QBs,...). Many QB's who end up becoming solid backups or possibly starters get passed up by many teams. I'm not trying to justify why teams passed up on him because they did and that's a fact. What I am saying is that our OC wanted him and was over ruled by two guys who had ancient ideas of the offense. It's almost like they wanted guys who refuse to deviate from the script (Alex/Carr) and ruin their ancient philosophy.

Originally posted by oldman9er:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by oldman9er:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Do you really take what Singletary thinks of Nate Davis with any credibility and that all of a sudden Singletary thinks Carr is a joke?

I offered no opinion on what I think of Mike's opinion of Nate. Only that it is apparent that Mike thinks that. I have no strong opinion of Nate one way or another. As for Carr, I feel that Mike was somewhat forced to accept him thanks to his GM, McC. So I think Mike always felt that Carr was a joke... but gave him a brief chance to change his mind.

I didn't say you offered that opinion which was why I asked you who's opinion of Nate would you hold more credible, Mike Johnson's or Mike Singletary because it was apparent Mike Johnson vouched to keep Nate Davis as #3. Not my opinion either, just that Mike Johnson thinks that.

I would lean towards Mike Johnson's credibility when evaluating QBs... though that could be hard for some of you, as M.J. is a fan of Nate Davis, Troy Smith, and... wait for it.... Alex Smith.

I agree and because of that, I was willing to give Alex Smith even more chances after that Philly game and his "caution" comment. But then he reverted right back to what he does and throwing caution to the wind is just not his personality.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by oldman9er:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by oldman9er:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Do you really take what Singletary thinks of Nate Davis with any credibility and that all of a sudden Singletary thinks Carr is a joke?

I offered no opinion on what I think of Mike's opinion of Nate. Only that it is apparent that Mike thinks that. I have no strong opinion of Nate one way or another. As for Carr, I feel that Mike was somewhat forced to accept him thanks to his GM, McC. So I think Mike always felt that Carr was a joke... but gave him a brief chance to change his mind.

I didn't say you offered that opinion which was why I asked you who's opinion of Nate would you hold more credible, Mike Johnson's or Mike Singletary because it was apparent Mike Johnson vouched to keep Nate Davis as #3. Not my opinion either, just that Mike Johnson thinks that.

I would lean towards Mike Johnson's credibility when evaluating QBs... though that could be hard for some of you, as M.J. is a fan of Nate Davis, Troy Smith, and... wait for it.... Alex Smith.

I agree and because of that, I was willing to give Alex Smith even more chances after that Philly game and his "caution" comment. But then he reverted right back to what he does and throwing caution to the wind is just not his personality.

You must not have paid attention to the articles and quotes that followed the Raiders game then. Singletary was quotes as saying that early in the game, the type of philosophy changed and went back to Mike's "we want to end every possession with a kick... (whether extra point, FG, or punt). This is partly why 9 of Alex's incompletions were safe throwaways. The weather was crap... the game had all appearances of a defensive slugfest (after the initial first deep passes by both sides)...

pay attention much?