Originally posted by Marvin49:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by Marvin49:Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:Originally posted by Marvin49:Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
The Smith apologists blow my mind....
So what you guys are saying is that the best game of his career was a loss in which he had 3 turnovers.
I mean, I guess I have to agree but that fact speaks volumes to his ineptitude as a QB in this league.
I'm tired of this and I'm not going to let him go free of blame for another game/week/season.
He's garbage pure and simple. Good QB's know how to win games and eliminate turnovers, no matter what the circumstances. He can't do either. Let's also remember that he's got an abundance of talent around.
Everyone can look good sometimes. His bright spots are far too infrequent, too inconsistent and never come through when the game's on the line.
...and the Smith haters drive me nuts. No matter what the guy does, you would hate him. I'm not saying he's the best QB in the world, I'm just saying that he played well. If you were OBJECTIVE, then you would see that.
Objective is seeing that he had 3 costly turnovers and didn't win the game. That doesn't constitute "playing well" in my book and I don't think it does in anyone else's as well.
OK, if you say so. My job here isn't to convince the inconvincable. Feel free to hate the guy if it makes you feel better.
BTW, Looking at numbers without perspective is NOT objecive BTW. Did you know that Joe Flacco and Bruce Gradkowski have almost identical QB Ratings? I guess they are the same OBJECTIVELY, right?
Marvin, I don't see any mention of Smith not throwing to the correct receivers, meaning he either didn't see the open receiver or made the incorrect read.
Unless we have game film, we really can't properly assess the QB which is why we can only go by the analyst who is watching the game live and Collinsworth did a great job with the production replaying actually open looks Alex had deep that he should have thrown. Even that fumble TD should have been thrown to Vernon.
Honestly, Chris Collinsworth and that team did a great job of truly analyzing what wasn't happening with some great use of "coach's film" type of footage. You don't normally see this with other broadcasters/analysts. It almost seems as though he was trying to answer the question of what's wrong with the 49ers. I can understand why with him being a former WR who was probably "always" wide open.
Also, even Shaun Hill and JTO look good when they aren't fumbling the ball or throwing INTs. Almost every QB does. JTO's problem and less with Hill is exactly what Alex Smith is doing, which is fumbling or throwing a pick twice a game. You keep doing that and you go from average QB to terrible/benched QB.
No, but I wouldn't trust Collinsworth either. If there is a play where Morgan is the first read for a 15 yard gain and Ginn is the second tead for a 30 yard gain and its 2nd and 10, throwing to Morgan for 15 yards and a first down doesn't make it the incorrect read. It means it was his first read, he took it, they got a first down. Move on.
Yes, if that's the case then he's gotta go with the first guy open but it doesn't mean it's still the correct read. It's also a case of reading the defense and understanding there's an over the top possibility.
I'm still giving him more chances but I am not holding back when criticism is due and not going to try and pull out excuses for him. Gore f**ked up too and should have been benched for a drive. Who knows, sometimes you discover new players and what they bring to the team. Dixon would have punished that beat up Defensive line and Gore would have come in and cleaned it all up.