ANALYSIS OF EVERY PLAY OF 1ST HALF VS CHIEFS

I will post a summary of the first half here.

- OL for the most part looks horrible getting a push but it's tough with 4-5 DL, 2-3 LB and creeping CBs/DBs on many plays. Pass protection wasn't too bad in the first play. Staley got beat once... A Davis once, maybe twice. Overall, the run blocking was much worse in the 1st half.

- Anthony Davis got beat a few times around the edge but didn't give up a sack so far. Only one false start... a couple of times he didn't stay on his block long enough on run plays and his guy ended up making the play

-Spikes, Willis, Lawson seemed to be busy in coverage and didn't have a huge impact on the first half. Many times on delays the LBs would be down field leading to big runs. The screens where the same as well. Nobody really recognized them except Smith on a few plays but it's tough for a DL to catch a speedy RB even with angles. Pass defense wasn't bad minus the screens. Rush defense was pretty bad... mainly around the corners... they gave up 3 or 4 big runs and one was called back due to holding.

- A few times they got pressure on Cassel but mostly there was none. Every time they did though it usually caused an errant throw. We blitzed a few times... Goldson one time worked out because he stopped the runner in the backfield. Nobody really got there on the blitzes though.

-A lot of check downs from Smith. Not sure if anybody was getting open down field. I did like the play (3rd down) where Crabtree and Gore both where in the backfield and both hit the flats. Gore ended up with a 31 yard catch. Also, seen Gore/Westbrook in once... Westbrook hit the screen and Gore went on the other side in the flats. Our OL definitely needs work blocking on screens. On the flea flicker Crabtree was the only player that ran down field and he had 3 guys on him. Not sure why Walker stayed in to block and didn't release. VD wasn't more than 5 yards down field surrounded by 3 guys as well.

-So basically it’s 10-3 after they missed a field goal but we failed to take the ball down the field before half with 1:55 left and instead punt it back and they get 3 points. We can’t be doing that. It’s one thing if we don’t get any points but at least eat all the time so they can’t get points.

So basically it’s 10-3 after they missed a field goal but we failed to take the ball down the field before half with 1:55 left and instead punt it back and they get 3 points. We can’t be doing that. It’s one thing if we don’t get any points but at least eat all the time so they can’t get points.
Stats are 4 first downs us/13 them, 16 rush for us/88 them, 104 pass us/162 them, 120 to 250 in total yardage, 1 turnover each and time of possession is 12:21 us/17:39 them… we didn’t play horrible but we didn’t play great. We where in this game yet. I might do the 2nd half but we really fell apart there. We did in the Seattle game as well.

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yeah im not reading that.

Originally posted by defenderDX:
yeah im not reading that.

READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH... IF YOU DONT WANT TO READ IT I SAID DON'T POST. 2ND POST HAS A SUMMARY...

That's alright 10 more % and we won't have to hear from you again.

Originally posted by Gore_21:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
yeah im not reading that.

READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH... IF YOU DONT WANT TO READ IT I SAID DON'T POST. 2ND POST HAS A SUMMARY...

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by Gore_21:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
yeah im not reading that.

READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH... IF YOU DONT WANT TO READ IT I SAID DON'T POST. 2ND POST HAS A SUMMARY...

This is way too long. Really though.

Originally posted by bigmike55:
This is way too long. Really though.

Yeah, didn't say you had to read it. I did one for each pre season and put them up on two 9ers boards and had plenty of people say they read it and appreciated it. I am not saying everyone has to read it. If you didn't get to see the game or really want to go in detail about the game go for it. If people just want to read the summary then that's fine. Just don't like people posting they aren't going to read it. Like I said if it's too long move on.

Originally posted by Gore_21:
I will post a summary of the first half here.

- OL for the most part looks horrible getting a push but it's tough with 4-5 DL, 2-3 LB and creeping CBs/DBs on many plays. Pass protection wasn't too bad in the first play. Staley got beat once... A Davis once, maybe twice. Overall, the run blocking was much worse in the 1st half.

- Anthony Davis got beat a few times around the edge but didn't give up a sack so far. Only one false start... a couple of times he didn't stay on his block long enough on run plays and his guy ended up making the play

-Spikes, Willis, Lawson seemed to be busy in coverage and didn't have a huge impact on the first half. Many times on delays the LBs would be down field leading to big runs. The screens where the same as well. Nobody really recognized them except Smith on a few plays but it's tough for a DL to catch a speedy RB even with angles. Pass defense wasn't bad minus the screens. Rush defense was pretty bad... mainly around the corners... they gave up 3 or 4 big runs and one was called back due to holding.

- A few times they got pressure on Cassel but mostly there was none. Every time they did though it usually caused an errant throw. We blitzed a few times... Goldson one time worked out because he stopped the runner in the backfield. Nobody really got there on the blitzes though.

-A lot of check downs from Smith. Not sure if anybody was getting open down field. I did like the play (3rd down) where Crabtree and Gore both where in the backfield and both hit the flats. Gore ended up with a 31 yard catch. Also, seen Gore/Westbrook in once... Westbrook hit the screen and Gore went on the other side in the flats. Our OL definitely needs work blocking on screens. On the flea flicker Crabtree was the only player that ran down field and he had 3 guys on him. Not sure why Walker stayed in to block and didn't release. VD wasn't more than 5 yards down field surrounded by 3 guys as well.

-So basically it’s 10-3 after they missed a field goal but we failed to take the ball down the field before half with 1:55 left and instead punt it back and they get 3 points. We can’t be doing that. It’s one thing if we don’t get any points but at least eat all the time so they can’t get points.

I for one do appreciate this! I've been away in Asia for the past 2 weeks (left in the 3rd Q of the Saints game) and have been dying to find out what happened.

From what I saw the game plan on 2nd down was ridiculous. 2nd and less than 5 hand the ball to Frank for no gain, more than 5 and short pass. Sounds like a good formula for alot of 3rd and longs. Also from what I read it seems like Smith might be a bit gunshy throwing to Crabtree (can't really blame him). If he's primary and Smith isn't sure what he's going to do then he checks down to a back or underneath route. All in all looks like some major surgery is needed. Fortunately the biggest problem has been dealt with (Raye fired!).

Originally posted by Gore_21:

Originally posted by bigmike55:
This is way too long. Really though.

Yeah, didn't say you had to read it. I did one for each pre season and put them up on two 9ers boards and had plenty of people say they read it and appreciated it. I am not saying everyone has to read it. If you didn't get to see the game or really want to go in detail about the game go for it. If people just want to read the summary then that's fine. Just don't like people posting they aren't going to read it. Like I said if it's too long move on.

All good man, but just a heads up, if you post something in bold that says,

"If you don't want to read it don't post saying it is too long... move along."

expect to have people post that they don't want to read it and that it's too long. This is Niner Talk, home of the cyber bullies and jerks. That's just the way it is.

Originally posted by Mookster:

I for one do appreciate this! I've been away in Asia for the past 2 weeks (left in the 3rd Q of the Saints game) and have been dying to find out what happened.

From what I saw the game plan on 2nd down was ridiculous. 2nd and less than 5 hand the ball to Frank for no gain, more than 5 and short pass. Sounds like a good formula for alot of 3rd and longs. Also from what I read it seems like Smith might be a bit gunshy throwing to Crabtree (can't really blame him). If he's primary and Smith isn't sure what he's going to do then he checks down to a back or underneath route. All in all looks like some major surgery is needed. Fortunately the biggest problem has been dealt with (Raye fired!).

3 of Smith's 5 int's have come when throwing to Crabtree. Some where Alex's fault, some where Crabtree's fault. I don't think they are on the same page yet although last year they seemed to be doing well. I am sure it takes a lot of work in the off season to stay connected. Why do you think Manning could always throw to a spot before Wayne/Harrison even made a break on the ball? That's a lot of practice.

As for 2nd down... Runs with Gore didn't go any where and even when we had a decent play on 1st down we get nothing on 2nd down and it still ends up being 3rd and 5 or so. Like I said a lot of checkdowns... it's so hard to tell what the WRs are doing on tv because they don't show down field much unless the ball is going to a particular player. We went to Crabtree 3 times in a row and then nothing. Makes me wonder what was going on.

Pass protection was pretty good in the first half but fell apart in the second half. Staley started stinking it up, Baas gave up a sack, Davis gave up 3 to Hali.

One thing that has been the downfall of us in the two games we lost... we play decent in the first half and are within reach and the first series (or couple) of the 3rd quarter we do nothing. If we could get some points and get the game closer because all of a sudden our O isn't doing anything, our D starts to let down and then we get down big. We can't come back from 14 down (probably 10)the way we have been playing.

Edit: and the Chiefs offensive game planning was brilliant. So many times Willis and the LBs where dropping back in coverage and then delays once you get past our 3 dl it's wide open for 5-10 yards until the guys come up. Screens as well... so many times (in the other games as well) our guys get right at the QB and then they release it. Smith dropped off a few times but he is about the only one. They had a few that where 20+ a pop.

You get an "A" for effort but a friendly suggestion would be to make this a lil easier to read. Perhaps some more spacing between teams changing possession, or highlighting important first downs or scores?

Just a thought...

The more i watched the game there was less room for Gore less time for Alex and less separation of our WRs.

Defence looked totally lost.

I bet that Atlanta will try a lot of screen passes and a lot of slants this is were we are wounerable due to the lack of speed.

it´s alarming to see that Willis hase to make TD saving tackles after tripping or beeing cut blocked.
Where are our safeties??

Thanks for taking the time to do this, dude.