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Alex Smith Observation.
Sep 22, 2010 at 6:09 PM
- fly15
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Sep 22, 2010 at 6:39 PM
- Surly-Z
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His tipped passes are the result of rushed throws, innacuracy on short routes, and lack of ideal arm strength. Its not about luck.
That being said, the Alex hate is a bit much. I don't think he's the answer here long term (monday night not withstanding), but I've seen way worse. way worse.
That being said, the Alex hate is a bit much. I don't think he's the answer here long term (monday night not withstanding), but I've seen way worse. way worse.
Sep 22, 2010 at 6:40 PM
- 49ersalldaway126
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Originally posted by Surly-Z:
His tipped passes are the result of rushed throws, innacuracy on short routes, and lack of ideal arm strength. Its not about luck.
That being said, the Alex hate is a bit much. I don't think he's the answer here long term (monday night not withstanding), but I've seen way worse. way worse.
the 2nd one was a 3 step drop they are designed to be the way he threw it that LB just made an amzing play
1st one although tipped was his fault that was bad accuracy
Sep 22, 2010 at 6:44 PM
- sincalniner
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Here's an observation that I mad this week... After the second int did anyone else notice the reaction from the ass bag? He looked pissed, well mad, but from him I can say he actually looked like it ticked him off. One of the things that I had an issue defending him on over the past few years was his lack of emotion. But there it was, actual anger, not the typical "ah shuck, shoot, darn" reaction that has been the norm for him.... I don't know, just something that I saw.... Still pissed at him though.
Sep 22, 2010 at 7:09 PM
- WINiner
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Originally posted by ninerbrand:
I am not sure who else has noticed this, but it seems to me that Alex Smith's interception 90% of the time come off of tipped balls. Especially, this year. Both passes in Mondays game that were picked were off tips. One of his two from Seattle. I have noticed this since he came into the league in '05. The ball just kind of has a knack for finding a defender.
Why do you think he gets so many tipped balls?
What do you guys think can fix this?
My Suggestion: Pump fake. Throw not only the D-Line but the secondaries to delay their reactions.
ninerbrand(on)
1: because he is innacurate
2: nothing can fix it that 6 years hasnt already
Sep 22, 2010 at 7:12 PM
- Memphis9er
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Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by ninerbrand:
I am not sure who else has noticed this, but it seems to me that Alex Smith's interception 90% of the time come off of tipped balls. Especially, this year. Both passes in Mondays game that were picked were off tips. One of his two from Seattle. I have noticed this since he came into the league in '05. The ball just kind of has a knack for finding a defender.
Why do you think he gets so many tipped balls?
What do you guys think can fix this?
My Suggestion: Pump fake. Throw not only the D-Line but the secondaries to delay their reactions.
ninerbrand(on)
1: because he is innacurate
2: nothing can fix it that 6 years hasnt already
Yeah 71.9% completion percentage is totally unacceptable, we should cut him now and you can start at QB for us, since you are the expert.
Sep 22, 2010 at 7:20 PM
- ZRF80
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by ninerbrand:
I am not sure who else has noticed this, but it seems to me that Alex Smith's interception 90% of the time come off of tipped balls. Especially, this year. Both passes in Mondays game that were picked were off tips. One of his two from Seattle. I have noticed this since he came into the league in '05. The ball just kind of has a knack for finding a defender.
Why do you think he gets so many tipped balls?
What do you guys think can fix this?
My Suggestion: Pump fake. Throw not only the D-Line but the secondaries to delay their reactions.
ninerbrand(on)
1: because he is innacurate
2: nothing can fix it that 6 years hasnt already
Yeah 71.9% completion percentage is totally unacceptable, we should cut him now and you can start at QB for us, since you are the expert.
71.9% completion percentage which consists of 2-3 yard passes to receivers is nothing to boast about, my ffriend. Correct me if Im wrong, but didnt the drive that led to our first TD consist of 3 pass plays to the FLATS (Gore) that led to a TD. You think that Raye called those plays and told Alex to make sure he passed to Gore on 3 consecutive plays, or do you think it's more feasible that Alex checked down too quick, panicked, and passed to the underneath guy. Thank God for Frank Gore, or those chains wouldnt have budged on that drive.
Nice twist on the 71.9% though. You almost had me convinced.......
Sep 22, 2010 at 7:41 PM
- miklo209
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you guys are really stupid... hahaha too me he played a great game... and its not his fault we lost.... look at the cowboys, vikings... you think they are b***hing at their qb's to get cut... u fake ass fans... support your team.. nothing else to it... u guys hate cuz ur fuken life sucks...
Sep 22, 2010 at 7:42 PM
- WINiner
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by ninerbrand:
I am not sure who else has noticed this, but it seems to me that Alex Smith's interception 90% of the time come off of tipped balls. Especially, this year. Both passes in Mondays game that were picked were off tips. One of his two from Seattle. I have noticed this since he came into the league in '05. The ball just kind of has a knack for finding a defender.
Why do you think he gets so many tipped balls?
What do you guys think can fix this?
My Suggestion: Pump fake. Throw not only the D-Line but the secondaries to delay their reactions.
ninerbrand(on)
1: because he is innacurate
2: nothing can fix it that 6 years hasnt already
Yeah 71.9% completion percentage is totally unacceptable, we should cut him now and you can start at QB for us, since you are the expert.
Come the hell on Memphis, you been around, are you SERIOUSLY going to pull out ONE game to prove Smiths career #'s wrong?
Re-read what you wrote, consider Smiths career stats, and then get back to me on that drama filled resposnse.
Sep 22, 2010 at 7:43 PM
- WINiner
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Originally posted by miklo209:
you guys are really stupid... hahaha too me he played a great game... and its not his fault we lost.... look at the cowboys, vikings... you think they are b***hing at their qb's to get cut... u fake ass fans... support your team.. nothing else to it... u guys hate cuz ur fuken life sucks...
Yeah but we will continue to post, while you will soon be banned
Sep 22, 2010 at 7:46 PM
- dtcomposer
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Originally posted by ZRF80:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by ninerbrand:
I am not sure who else has noticed this, but it seems to me that Alex Smith's interception 90% of the time come off of tipped balls. Especially, this year. Both passes in Mondays game that were picked were off tips. One of his two from Seattle. I have noticed this since he came into the league in '05. The ball just kind of has a knack for finding a defender.
Why do you think he gets so many tipped balls?
What do you guys think can fix this?
My Suggestion: Pump fake. Throw not only the D-Line but the secondaries to delay their reactions.
ninerbrand(on)
1: because he is innacurate
2: nothing can fix it that 6 years hasnt already
Yeah 71.9% completion percentage is totally unacceptable, we should cut him now and you can start at QB for us, since you are the expert.
71.9% completion percentage which consists of 2-3 yard passes to receivers is nothing to boast about, my ffriend. Correct me if Im wrong, but didnt the drive that led to our first TD consist of 3 pass plays to the FLATS (Gore) that led to a TD. You think that Raye called those plays and told Alex to make sure he passed to Gore on 3 consecutive plays, or do you think it's more feasible that Alex checked down too quick, panicked, and passed to the underneath guy. Thank God for Frank Gore, or those chains wouldnt have budged on that drive.
Nice twist on the 71.9% though. You almost had me convinced.......
your posts are a joke. Smith completed several long passes in the second half. Smith didn't look panicked at all in that game. He stayed in the pocket quite a bit, and didn't force that many balls (remember he did have the fairly deep throw to Vernon that wasn't completed as well, but was PI). Yes, let's also diminish his game because he got the ball to our best threat quite a bit.
Have you ever heard of the prevent defense? Teams tend to run that on the last drive of a game. Forcing deep throws in to that kind of coverage kind of plays right in to their hands.
While smith has not been historically very accurate, it seems that he is becoming more accurate as he gains confidence in his knowledge of the offense, and has more time to throw.
Sep 22, 2010 at 7:48 PM
- CrAnKD4TCRabTree
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Originally posted by Surly-Z:
His tipped passes are the result of rushed throws, innacuracy on short routes, and lack of ideal arm strength. Its not about luck.
That being said, the Alex hate is a bit much. I don't think he's the answer here long term (monday night not withstanding), but I've seen way worse. way worse.
Lol or you just hate him and are trying to find some way to blame his bad luck with deflected passes
Sep 22, 2010 at 7:53 PM
- Shemp
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Originally posted by dtcomposer:Originally posted by ZRF80:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by ninerbrand:
I am not sure who else has noticed this, but it seems to me that Alex Smith's interception 90% of the time come off of tipped balls. Especially, this year. Both passes in Mondays game that were picked were off tips. One of his two from Seattle. I have noticed this since he came into the league in '05. The ball just kind of has a knack for finding a defender.
Why do you think he gets so many tipped balls?
What do you guys think can fix this?
My Suggestion: Pump fake. Throw not only the D-Line but the secondaries to delay their reactions.
ninerbrand(on)
1: because he is innacurate
2: nothing can fix it that 6 years hasnt already
Yeah 71.9% completion percentage is totally unacceptable, we should cut him now and you can start at QB for us, since you are the expert.
71.9% completion percentage which consists of 2-3 yard passes to receivers is nothing to boast about, my ffriend. Correct me if Im wrong, but didnt the drive that led to our first TD consist of 3 pass plays to the FLATS (Gore) that led to a TD. You think that Raye called those plays and told Alex to make sure he passed to Gore on 3 consecutive plays, or do you think it's more feasible that Alex checked down too quick, panicked, and passed to the underneath guy. Thank God for Frank Gore, or those chains wouldnt have budged on that drive.
Nice twist on the 71.9% though. You almost had me convinced.......
your posts are a joke. Smith completed several long passes in the second half. Smith didn't look panicked at all in that game. He stayed in the pocket quite a bit, and didn't force that many balls (remember he did have the fairly deep throw to Vernon that wasn't completed as well, but was PI). Yes, let's also diminish his game because he got the ball to our best threat quite a bit.
Have you ever heard of the prevent defense? Teams tend to run that on the last drive of a game. Forcing deep throws in to that kind of coverage kind of plays right in to their hands.
While smith has not been historically very accurate, it seems that he is becoming more accurate as he gains confidence in his knowledge of the offense, and has more time to throw.
He's played something like 42 games, right? You can't take one good game (following a previous game where he laid eggs all over the field) and call it a trend. That's borderline masturbation.
Sep 22, 2010 at 7:54 PM
- WINiner
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Originally posted by CrAnKD4TCRabTree:Originally posted by Surly-Z:
His tipped passes are the result of rushed throws, innacuracy on short routes, and lack of ideal arm strength. Its not about luck.
That being said, the Alex hate is a bit much. I don't think he's the answer here long term (monday night not withstanding), but I've seen way worse. way worse.
Lol or you just hate him and are trying to find some way to blame his bad luck with deflected passes
Deflected passes are 100% skill. They show a lack of either accuracy or ability to recognize when his lane is really not open.
The one to Frank was an inaccurate throw., which MOST of Smiths tipped passes are., which is why they are tipped to begin with. Had Smith put it on Frank the way he should have, accurately, the pass would not have been tipped.....
It's pretty simple really, so why so hard to comprehend?
Sep 22, 2010 at 7:56 PM
- 49ersalldaway126
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Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by CrAnKD4TCRabTree:Originally posted by Surly-Z:
His tipped passes are the result of rushed throws, innacuracy on short routes, and lack of ideal arm strength. Its not about luck.
That being said, the Alex hate is a bit much. I don't think he's the answer here long term (monday night not withstanding), but I've seen way worse. way worse.
Lol or you just hate him and are trying to find some way to blame his bad luck with deflected passes
Deflected passes are 100% skill. They show a lack of either accuracy or ability to recognize when his lane is really not open.
The one to Frank was an inaccurate throw., which MOST of Smiths tipped passes are., which is why they are tipped to begin with. Had Smith put it on Frank the way he should have, accurately, the pass would not have been tipped.....
It's pretty simple really, so why so hard to comprehend?
i think most of us agree that 1st int although tipped was smiths fault but the second one wasnt the espn anyalsis gruden and jaws even said that one was just a good D play