dJ, i don't mean to kick up a shid storm, but this is a similar story when we get back to alex. I refused to be either pro or con alex until he a)got a decent coach(and MJ qualifies, as does improvement in JR/bigmike), and b) he got a decent OL(he got a great one, and C and OG play improved when guys around them improved.) Strange how that always seems to happen that way. Don't get me wrong, chilo and alex are two entirely different stories, both ruined by lousy coaching and crappy play alongside or in front of them. Pick up the coaching, pick up the play of other OL guys, and holy cow, everybody suddenly looks better. AMAZING...but 100% predictable. Don't give up on chilo, guys, as he has just started getting the coaching he needs, and bigRay and solari are just the two guys to bring him around. Not Bob McK, but cut from the same cloth. OL outlook? REALLY promising.