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Good to see everyone slurping the 'Moral Victory' kool-aid.

Originally posted by obx49:
Originally posted by Blitz:
Originally posted by obx49:
Originally posted by HessianDud:
i don't see anything wrong with feeling a little positive after this loss. we played a hell of a game--this was a GREAT GAME. These are the kinds of games that make football the greatest sport in the world, and what makes us fans. We didn't win--that sucks, and it hurts, its a tough, tough loss that will have implications over the rest of our season--one way or the other--but what is wrong with feeling better about this loss than about the Seattle loss?

We were vastly improved over last week. We corrected many of the errors from last week. We got incredible performances from our defense, from our quarterback, from our o-line, and from our runningback. We lost the game, we were not beat. That hurts, no doubt. But I think its fair to say that this team and its fans can hold their heads high after this performance, as opposed to the gutless, disorganized shambles of last week.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

Hessian, you're right there were many positives, but we've all seen the same movie before. A great example is the Viking game last season, we played a great game offensively and defensively, we had them beat, we find a way to lose the game at the end and then the next week we get blown out against the Falcons. Our problem is inconsistency and the problem starts with the Yorks (for hiring such an inexperienced coach who inherited a very young team) and ends with the QB (1 td and 4 turnovers in two games shouldn't be anything to be positive about).

I don't know what Vikings/49ers game you were watching last year, it must have been different than the one I was watching. In the one I watched, the offense pretty much looked mediocre/lame on the whole. They most certainly did not, "...play a great game offensively...".

For someone who is complaining of 49ers fans used to and drinking mediocrity kool aid, how come you picked a game in which the offense was mediocre at best to try and illustrate "great play"?

I agree. I stand corrected.

yeah, the Vikings game was very different feeling, because our own ineptitude on offense prevented us from winning that game, whereas in this game, our offense finally APPEARED to be a real NFL offense. Offense has been holding us back for years, and if this game is an accurate indication of its potential--with the pieces we have, from OC on down to 3rd string TE--then that is such a major positive that its impossible to not feel good about the team.

I just don't feel like it is always "win or nothing" for sports fans. you really can't win every game, so the best you can hope for is competition, excitement, dignity no matter the outcome. After all, its an entertainment, and last nights game was as entertaining a game as I've ever seen.

Now, as we move on from this game, we need to correct our mistakes and start winning games, and there might be a time to be angry about our results, but, for now, I think there is more good than bad to take from this game, even though it was a tough, tough loss.
Originally posted by Surly-Z:
Yeah I'm not sure I'm hearing anyone talk about moral victory, but yeah you sure did show us.

This was not a moral victory, it was yet another tough, tough loss. We already know this is a talented team, seattle was clearly an aberration, but playing well and losing doesn't make it better.

These next 2 games in Kansas City and Atlanta will tell us if the Seattle and the New Orleans game was or was not an aberration....
WELL.....I SAW THE GAME HERE IN LIMA - PERU BY ESPN (CABLE MAGICO )AND I HOPE THE TEAM GONNA DO BETTER AND BETTER....BUT NO MORE MORAL VICTORIES PLEASE
Originally posted by B650:
Originally posted by LeftBankeNiner:
The turnovers were killers. Especially where they happened. In the end though, the defense couldn't stop them when they had to. Looked a lot better than week 1. Still not good enough though. We'll see if Smith can maintain this or not? Is Adams still on the team after his punt return disaster? Waive goodbye.

Adams is a rookie. Rookies makes mistakes. Walker is the one who should be worried. His job might be secure right now, but he won't get much playing time if he keeps fumbling. That shouldn't happen to a veteran player. You know that once you get down to that part of the field, your main priority is to hold on to the ball.

I wonder his fumbles per carry ratio is? Seems like 1-10 plays he's giving it up.
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Originally posted by HessianDud:
Originally posted by obx49:
Originally posted by Blitz:
Originally posted by obx49:
Originally posted by HessianDud:
i don't see anything wrong with feeling a little positive after this loss. we played a hell of a game--this was a GREAT GAME. These are the kinds of games that make football the greatest sport in the world, and what makes us fans. We didn't win--that sucks, and it hurts, its a tough, tough loss that will have implications over the rest of our season--one way or the other--but what is wrong with feeling better about this loss than about the Seattle loss?

We were vastly improved over last week. We corrected many of the errors from last week. We got incredible performances from our defense, from our quarterback, from our o-line, and from our runningback. We lost the game, we were not beat. That hurts, no doubt. But I think its fair to say that this team and its fans can hold their heads high after this performance, as opposed to the gutless, disorganized shambles of last week.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

Hessian, you're right there were many positives, but we've all seen the same movie before. A great example is the Viking game last season, we played a great game offensively and defensively, we had them beat, we find a way to lose the game at the end and then the next week we get blown out against the Falcons. Our problem is inconsistency and the problem starts with the Yorks (for hiring such an inexperienced coach who inherited a very young team) and ends with the QB (1 td and 4 turnovers in two games shouldn't be anything to be positive about).

I don't know what Vikings/49ers game you were watching last year, it must have been different than the one I was watching. In the one I watched, the offense pretty much looked mediocre/lame on the whole. They most certainly did not, "...play a great game offensively...".

For someone who is complaining of 49ers fans used to and drinking mediocrity kool aid, how come you picked a game in which the offense was mediocre at best to try and illustrate "great play"?

I agree. I stand corrected.

yeah, the Vikings game was very different feeling, because our own ineptitude on offense prevented us from winning that game, whereas in this game, our offense finally APPEARED to be a real NFL offense. Offense has been holding us back for years, and if this game is an accurate indication of its potential--with the pieces we have, from OC on down to 3rd string TE--then that is such a major positive that its impossible to not feel good about the team.

I just don't feel like it is always "win or nothing" for sports fans. you really can't win every game, so the best you can hope for is competition, excitement, dignity no matter the outcome. After all, its an entertainment, and last nights game was as entertaining a game as I've ever seen.

Now, as we move on from this game, we need to correct our mistakes and start winning games, and there might be a time to be angry about our results, but, for now, I think there is more good than bad to take from this game, even though it was a tough, tough loss.

Well put....
Originally posted by Esco:
Thanks you really told us
Originally posted by dtcomposer:
Originally posted by franchise253:
Good teams don't turn the ball over four times.

Good teams don't beat themselves.

0-2.

7 years and counting of no play-offs.

But seriously though, keep hanging on to hoping these moral victories will one day change.

That is great. So what do you want people to do then? Should we all just stop talking about this season because it is over after 2 games? We can't discuss the good things that we saw from a tough game against the defending champs? The game is over, so now you move on. You evaluate what you can do better, and you try to win next week. All signs point to the fact that the Niners can do it, so now we see if they do. I think that posts like this are cowardly, and show a lack of being able to cope with dissapointment! (Not a personal attack!)

Thank u! That's exactly what I was thinking. Also, should we not feel good about our team playing tough til the and rebounding from an ugly loss the previous week? We are 0-2, but does that mean that our season is over and we should just give up on the season? No way! We need to keep the faith and belive that the niners will breakthrough and make the playoffs.
the thing about the turnovers is that we can chage that. the fact that we finally played up to our potential, now thats telling, thats something to be really happy about
Keep wallowing in your despair because good teams wallow in despair, right?