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Good to see everyone slurping the 'Moral Victory' kool-aid.

Gulp, ahhhhh. Im drinking it!
Originally posted by Ninefan56:
I am indeed slurping the moral victory kool aid. To me this game showed signs of what we can be as a team. We showed the following:

1. We were not intimated by New Orleans.

2. We outgained them.

3. Had three possessions in te red zone that we did not capitalize on.

4. We kept our poise.

5. we played the full game and did not give up at the half.

6. We moved the ball well.

7. The Oline did not give up a sack and opened up running lanes for the RBs.

8. A. Smith out gained D. Brees.

9. Backfield did not let the game get away into a blowout.

10. We were in the game until the last seconds of the game.

11. We smoothed out the communication between Smith and Raye

12. Raye called a good game.

13. We did not play well enough to win but we established our offensive balance and both the run and pass were working.

I predict a break out game soon, 35-40 points.

I agree with this for the most part.

Turnovers killed us. Luckily Alex didn't commit them all either. I don't care how good you are it's hard to overcome 4:0 turnover ratio but we almost did. Too bad almost doesn't count.

We are still only 1 game out of the division. If we can cut back on the stupid turnovers than we should still be able to take the West.
The turnovers were killers. Especially where they happened. In the end though, the defense couldn't stop them when they had to. Looked a lot better than week 1. Still not good enough though. We'll see if Smith can maintain this or not? Is Adams still on the team after his punt return disaster? Waive goodbye.
Originally posted by franchise253:
Good teams don't turn the ball over four times.

Good teams don't beat themselves.

0-2.

7 years and counting of no play-offs.

But seriously though, keep hanging on to hoping these moral victories will one day change.
ahahahahahha last week nearly everyone thought that we would get rout by the saints...yesterday we had the superbowl-champion on the brink of a loss. but the haters dont wanna stop finding reasons to hate.
i dont wanna downplay the turnovers...4 turnovers are waaaaaay too much. but at least the niners shut the mouths of all the haters out there.

just one more: u are not a fan...plz come never back to that board. thx
Originally posted by LeftBankeNiner:
The turnovers were killers. Especially where they happened. In the end though, the defense couldn't stop them when they had to. Looked a lot better than week 1. Still not good enough though. We'll see if Smith can maintain this or not? Is Adams still on the team after his punt return disaster? Waive goodbye.

we need Williams and Ginn
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by LeftBankeNiner:
The turnovers were killers. Especially where they happened. In the end though, the defense couldn't stop them when they had to. Looked a lot better than week 1. Still not good enough though. We'll see if Smith can maintain this or not? Is Adams still on the team after his punt return disaster? Waive goodbye.

we need Williams and Ginn

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Originally posted by LeftBankeNiner:
The turnovers were killers. Especially where they happened. In the end though, the defense couldn't stop them when they had to. Looked a lot better than week 1. Still not good enough though. We'll see if Smith can maintain this or not? Is Adams still on the team after his punt return disaster? Waive goodbye.

Adams is a rookie. Rookies makes mistakes. Walker is the one who should be worried. His job might be secure right now, but he won't get much playing time if he keeps fumbling. That shouldn't happen to a veteran player. You know that once you get down to that part of the field, your main priority is to hold on to the ball.
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Originally posted by HessianDud:
i don't see anything wrong with feeling a little positive after this loss. we played a hell of a game--this was a GREAT GAME. These are the kinds of games that make football the greatest sport in the world, and what makes us fans. We didn't win--that sucks, and it hurts, its a tough, tough loss that will have implications over the rest of our season--one way or the other--but what is wrong with feeling better about this loss than about the Seattle loss?

We were vastly improved over last week. We corrected many of the errors from last week. We got incredible performances from our defense, from our quarterback, from our o-line, and from our runningback. We lost the game, we were not beat. That hurts, no doubt. But I think its fair to say that this team and its fans can hold their heads high after this performance, as opposed to the gutless, disorganized shambles of last week.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

Hessian, you're right there were many positives, but we've all seen the same movie before. A great example is the Viking game last season, we played a great game offensively and defensively, we had them beat, we find a way to lose the game at the end and then the next week we get blown out against the Falcons. Our problem is inconsistency and the problem starts with the Yorks (for hiring such an inexperienced coach who inherited a very young team) and ends with the QB (1 td and 4 turnovers in two games shouldn't be anything to be positive about).
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Originally posted by obx49:
Originally posted by HessianDud:
i don't see anything wrong with feeling a little positive after this loss. we played a hell of a game--this was a GREAT GAME. These are the kinds of games that make football the greatest sport in the world, and what makes us fans. We didn't win--that sucks, and it hurts, its a tough, tough loss that will have implications over the rest of our season--one way or the other--but what is wrong with feeling better about this loss than about the Seattle loss?

We were vastly improved over last week. We corrected many of the errors from last week. We got incredible performances from our defense, from our quarterback, from our o-line, and from our runningback. We lost the game, we were not beat. That hurts, no doubt. But I think its fair to say that this team and its fans can hold their heads high after this performance, as opposed to the gutless, disorganized shambles of last week.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

Hessian, you're right there were many positives, but we've all seen the same movie before. A great example is the Viking game last season, we played a great game offensively and defensively, we had them beat, we find a way to lose the game at the end and then the next week we get blown out against the Falcons. Our problem is inconsistency and the problem starts with the Yorks (for hiring such an inexperienced coach who inherited a very young team) and ends with the QB (1 td and 4 turnovers in two games shouldn't be anything to be positive about).

That same QB has 500 yards in 2 games against some pretty good defenses, and half the INTS weren't really his fault. I mean, we can take shots at Smith all we want, but in the end, it wasn't his fault we lost. Look at Baas, Adams, Walker, etc.
No kool-aid...just the confirmation our team can compete with anybody. The Seattle game was an abberation...this team will continue to improve. The OL took a huge step forward last night...they took it to the Saints after the 1st qtr. Gore was a beast...and Alex showed what he's capable of. True, we're 0-2...but so are the Vikes and Cowboys. There are 14 more games...plenty of time to right the ship. No need to panic...or wring our hands over another loss. There are some things to work on...and you can bet Singletary will be all over that.
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by franchise253:
Good teams don't turn the ball over four times.

Good teams don't beat themselves.

0-2.

7 years and counting of no play-offs.

But seriously though, keep hanging on to hoping these moral victories will one day change.

THANK YOU

WTF did the almost win against the Vikings last year, or the almost win against the Colts last year, do for us?

Exactly. I feel like we're so used to losing that we're grateful for the instances where we actually play the way we're supposed to. It's like a battered wife making excuses for her husband because he buys her flowers after a beating. That is no longer good enough. We have enough talent to win, but mistakes like we made yesterday are the mistakes of a team with a loser's mentality. We kicked NO's ass, but they are well-coached enough and smart enough to take care of the football. We spotted these guys free points--the world champs got a pass--because we weren't mentally strong enough to concentrate not on winning the game, but on winning every snap.
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Originally posted by B650:
Originally posted by obx49:
Originally posted by HessianDud:
i don't see anything wrong with feeling a little positive after this loss. we played a hell of a game--this was a GREAT GAME. These are the kinds of games that make football the greatest sport in the world, and what makes us fans. We didn't win--that sucks, and it hurts, its a tough, tough loss that will have implications over the rest of our season--one way or the other--but what is wrong with feeling better about this loss than about the Seattle loss?

We were vastly improved over last week. We corrected many of the errors from last week. We got incredible performances from our defense, from our quarterback, from our o-line, and from our runningback. We lost the game, we were not beat. That hurts, no doubt. But I think its fair to say that this team and its fans can hold their heads high after this performance, as opposed to the gutless, disorganized shambles of last week.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

Hessian, you're right there were many positives, but we've all seen the same movie before. A great example is the Viking game last season, we played a great game offensively and defensively, we had them beat, we find a way to lose the game at the end and then the next week we get blown out against the Falcons. Our problem is inconsistency and the problem starts with the Yorks (for hiring such an inexperienced coach who inherited a very young team) and ends with the QB (1 td and 4 turnovers in two games shouldn't be anything to be positive about).

That same QB has 500 yards in 2 games against some pretty good defenses, and half the INTS weren't really his fault. I mean, we can take shots at Smith all we want, but in the end, it wasn't his fault we lost. Look at Baas, Adams, Walker, etc.

Our goal should be to win superbowls and if you think that Alex Smith is a superbowl caliber QB then I have a bridge I want to sell you. Btw, its 500 yds, 4 turnovers and 1 td which is not exactly elite or even average for that matter. Our fan base has seen so much mediocrity for the last decade that when they see an average game played from our QB, it becomes acceptable.
We had 4 turnovers and only lost by a FG. It's week 2, don't worry about it.
Originally posted by franchise253:
Good teams don't turn the ball over four times.

Good teams don't beat themselves.

0-2.

7 years and counting of no play-offs.

But seriously though, keep hanging on to hoping these moral victories will one day change.

I don't believe in it either, but if you cant see the improvement from last week and is not optimistic about our team, then you're a fool.

[ Edited by 9erluv415 on Sep 21, 2010 at 07:41:30 ]
So far same team as last year. One good game from Smith, and one bad game. Defense can't stop screen passes, and special teams still a liability. Hopefully Smith goes on to have consistent play the rest of the season, and the special teams will get it's act together. That's when I can finally say I see some progress. Right now all I see is an 8-8 team from last year. Just need the Niners to prove me wrong, and progress as a team. Getting the plays actually in on time doesn't count as progress.