Barrows: Communication Problems Killed the 49ers

Originally posted by D_Niner:
D_Niner: Alex Smith Killed the 49ers...

not drafting aaron rodgers is what killed us

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jonnydellfan:
I was at this game and here's what I saw, it was probably a lot different than what it looked like from the broadcast.

There were no deep clearing routes: The routes combo's of the 49ers plays seemed to be designed for short passes. When receivers went deep they were more for opening the short game up, not deep clearing routes where the deep middle and curl routes are opened. Also, Staley was getting beat by a speed rush all day which caused a lot of pressures and hits that probably wasn't seen in the broadcast. Smith was hit on all but maybe two of his passes. There were a lot of flood routes but not many verticals.

The crowd was deafening. I could barely hear my wife talking to me who was sitting next to me at the game. The 12th man was there in full force and because the 9ers never got their run game going they could not silence the crowd. This led to a lot of communication issues. Also, Rachal went down in the game which probably didn't help Anthony Davis, losing the guy he's been practicing next to for the last 6 weeks.

There wasn't a sense of urgency from the play calling until the 9ers went no huddle. When Alex was calling his own plays the tempo of the players and their route running picked up dramatically. That was when they hit that deep in to Ginn for 15 yards or so(the only time they cleared out a deep pass. I'm starting to think that maybe Alex is smarter than Jimmy Raye - and the players might be too.

It was still fun to be at the game but as my wife put it: "they just looked slow and lathargic all game".

Thank you for your feedback. I did notice the same thing...that Ginn and others were used as decoys to throw everything...and I mean everything underneath. It took Seattle two seconds to figure out our whole offensive scheme which included about 10 total plays, 9 of them designed to be less then 10 yards. Raye/Singletary's philosophy is garbage. I liked that they had balls but when it's 4th and inches, you do a QB sneak, not a pass to the worst hands on the team (ball hot him twice in the hands - too high though). Seattle's OC, all of a week old had no problems game planning for our weaknesses. With zero pass rush on the outside, they were able to exploit a VERY slow Lewis and double-move on Clements and Brown and that was the game. Aside from Walker, we created ZERO mismatches with all the talent we have! It's ALL on the coaches this year b/c they have the players THEY wanted. We could end up 0-5, no doubt, to start the season as we have been TERRIBLE on the road and it continued today.

Yeah, if you have any questions feel free to ask - I was paying a lot of attention to the route combos, offensive line and defensive backfield at the game because I rarely ever see the 9ers live and so I like to pay attention to the stuff that's harder to see from the broadcast.

A case in point on the communication though, 9ers went to run PA bootleg flood play, the only problem, the play fake happened to the left which caused Smith to curl out of it to his right, the flood routes took all the receivers to the left and Anthony Davis slanted his protection down to the left. You might remember this play as the one where they did play action, and there was the DE squared up on Alex, he had no where else to go but to roll out to his right as the play had his momentum flowing that direction, which was the opposite way the receivers were going, there wasn't a receiver within 40 yards and no even on his half the field.
I remember thinking: WTF was that play?

I'm not sure how anyone can blame Alex for this horrible excuse of a football team today. Sure he didn't play very well, but the whole team was pure garbage today.

It all starts with the top IMO
To Sing and Raye, WTF is up with the playcalling?
Why the hell would you call a f**king inside run on 3rd and long when the team is down by 20+ points in the 4th quarter and your running game has avg less than 3 yds a carry? Why the f**k would you punt on 4th down, late in the game, down by multiple touchdowns, on their side of the field, and with your defense getting their asses handed to them?
Where are the field stretching calls to open up the running game? I almost thought Shaun Hill was playing QB for us with ALL THOSE SHORT PASSES.
Why are you BOTH incapable of making adjustments at halftime? The Hawks made adjustments. Didn't you notice they put the clamps on your garbage ball control offense?

To Crabtree, NOW you know why you need a preseason. You held out last season for more money and this is how you play? You should've been benched, plain and simple. You were ZERO help to the rest of the team.

To the Niner O-line, you guys sucked, plain and simple. 2 rookies or not, you guys were garbage and nearly got your QB AND RB KILLED.

And Defense, you guys pissed me off the most. You're supposed to be this great top 10 defense. You do realize that you let a rag tag, put together at the last min, bunch of nobodies and a has been QB BEAT YOU UP today.

And to Alex, HAVE THE f**kING BALLS TO THROW THE BALL DOWNFIELD. Stop looking at your TEs and Backs first and get the f**king ball out to your WRs and stretch that defense out. And if it's Raye just not calling the deep plays, have the balls to TELL HIM that's what you need.

what happen to the ownership drills in training camp when smith called plays against willis just for these type of situations

Originally posted by jonnydellfan:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jonnydellfan:
I was at this game and here's what I saw, it was probably a lot different than what it looked like from the broadcast.

There were no deep clearing routes: The routes combo's of the 49ers plays seemed to be designed for short passes. When receivers went deep they were more for opening the short game up, not deep clearing routes where the deep middle and curl routes are opened. Also, Staley was getting beat by a speed rush all day which caused a lot of pressures and hits that probably wasn't seen in the broadcast. Smith was hit on all but maybe two of his passes. There were a lot of flood routes but not many verticals.

The crowd was deafening. I could barely hear my wife talking to me who was sitting next to me at the game. The 12th man was there in full force and because the 9ers never got their run game going they could not silence the crowd. This led to a lot of communication issues. Also, Rachal went down in the game which probably didn't help Anthony Davis, losing the guy he's been practicing next to for the last 6 weeks.

There wasn't a sense of urgency from the play calling until the 9ers went no huddle. When Alex was calling his own plays the tempo of the players and their route running picked up dramatically. That was when they hit that deep in to Ginn for 15 yards or so(the only time they cleared out a deep pass. I'm starting to think that maybe Alex is smarter than Jimmy Raye - and the players might be too.

It was still fun to be at the game but as my wife put it: "they just looked slow and lathargic all game".

Thank you for your feedback. I did notice the same thing...that Ginn and others were used as decoys to throw everything...and I mean everything underneath. It took Seattle two seconds to figure out our whole offensive scheme which included about 10 total plays, 9 of them designed to be less then 10 yards. Raye/Singletary's philosophy is garbage. I liked that they had balls but when it's 4th and inches, you do a QB sneak, not a pass to the worst hands on the team (ball hot him twice in the hands - too high though). Seattle's OC, all of a week old had no problems game planning for our weaknesses. With zero pass rush on the outside, they were able to exploit a VERY slow Lewis and double-move on Clements and Brown and that was the game. Aside from Walker, we created ZERO mismatches with all the talent we have! It's ALL on the coaches this year b/c they have the players THEY wanted. We could end up 0-5, no doubt, to start the season as we have been TERRIBLE on the road and it continued today.

Yeah, if you have any questions feel free to ask - I was paying a lot of attention to the route combos, offensive line and defensive backfield at the game because I rarely ever see the 9ers live and so I like to pay attention to the stuff that's harder to see from the broadcast.

A case in point on the communication though, 9ers went to run PA bootleg flood play, the only problem, the play fake happened to the left which caused Smith to curl out of it to his right, the flood routes took all the receivers to the left and Anthony Davis slanted his protection down to the left. You might remember this play as the one where they did play action, and there was the DE squared up on Alex, he had no where else to go but to roll out to his right as the play had his momentum flowing that direction, which was the opposite way the receivers were going, there wasn't a receiver within 40 yards and no even on his half the field.
I remember thinking: WTF was that play?

other teams must laugh at how easy it is to defend against us, the only thing they need to worry about is VD seam route