So many weapons but we don't have a real OC

Originally posted by CornellU49er:
The enigma with Raye is its unfair to generalize and label him conservative or uncreative. In specific circumstances he displayed an impressive tendency to make aggressive and creative play calls. All of those 4th down pass plays come to mind.

The problem, it seems, is he is unable to maintain that attitude for a full game. Under normal circumstances (e.g. 1st and 10 on our own 20 in the 1st quarter) he becomes entirely too predictable.

He needs to maintain that creative, attacking attitude throughout the game.

that gm against gb comes to mind. HOLY S**T we sucked in the 1st had and smith only had what 5 passing yds? then in the 2nd half we came out firing and almost pulled off the win. that 1st half f**ked us up

Normally I would be very excited about Crabtree and the other young talent but I do worry we are predicatable.

Is Solari going to be allowed to implement his trap blocking scheme? Or is he going to only be allowed to teach the straight up blocking that we have had for the last 3 years?

Is Raye going to be better as an Offensive Coordinator in year 2?

And finally is Alex Smith going to correct his mechanics? Is he going to be able to take the ball from the center and make plays downfield? Or is he only going to be successfull when in the shotgun?

Originally posted by TeambyTheBay:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:

Originally posted by TeambyTheBay:

Originally posted by PTulini:

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:

Originally posted by TeambyTheBay:
I feel that our offensive players will never reach their potential under Jimmy Raye. Let's be completely honest here, this guy is terrible. We knew EXACTLY what Raye was calling 70% of the time during our games last year. And remember how horrible the TASER was? we were the kings of three and outs because of that BS. Also, don't think for a second that the post pattern will work for Vernon everytime next year. Teams are on to that play because Jimmy Raye has abused that play last year. Remember, vs. the Eagles at the end of the season, they put Sheldon Brown on Vernon and he couldn't do s**t that game. Raye was stunned, but of course, he had no answer. In fact, the pass to Vernon actually got intercepted.


Now the guy that Raye swagger jacked from, Dan Henning (Dolphins' OC), his team actually ranked top 10 in both rushing and passing in 2008. in 2009, they were top 4 in rushing and 20th in passing (still better than the 49ers). tell me who are the Dolphins' QB, WRs, and TE again?

I love the direction of this team, however, Raye is still a thorn in my sight.

Doesn't he mean "...thorn in my side"?

No, this is what I meant



but yea, f**k Jimmy Raye

wtf is that....rugby? that sport is pure pain....

yup, rugby and lacrosse are pretty hardcore

Lax is really not that hardcore. I played lax and football for over eight years. Rugby and football are much much more hardcore.

Originally posted by wolfpack52:
And with a better OL the playcalling will get even more vanilla. Just hope the D can withstand another year of not being able to get off the field.

Wouldnt we have a more open & creative type of playing calling with a better OL??
Is that what U meant to say???

Because what u say now makes NO sense whatsoever!!!

I agree! 100% Raye and Sing are a terrible offensive duo! Everyone bags on the O-line, but when 70+% percent of your running plays are between the tackles it aint hard to defend! YES the O-line played poorly, but Forester is gone! Raye still remains and will will be Sings puppet and call plays straight outta 1970!

Todays defenses are way to sophisticated and film work is a lot more thorough than it was back in the day, this dog won't hunt! We will lose several winnable games early, panic and start chucking the ball around to stay in games... just like last season!

Raye and Sing... something will have to give for this group to be an elite team!

Really can you even say Raye and Elite offense in the same sentence and keep a straight face?

i'm not really worried.

yet.

Yah Jimmy Raye blows.

Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:

Originally posted by TeambyTheBay:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:

Originally posted by TeambyTheBay:

Originally posted by PTulini:

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:

Originally posted by TeambyTheBay:
I feel that our offensive players will never reach their potential under Jimmy Raye. Let's be completely honest here, this guy is terrible. We knew EXACTLY what Raye was calling 70% of the time during our games last year. And remember how horrible the TASER was? we were the kings of three and outs because of that BS. Also, don't think for a second that the post pattern will work for Vernon everytime next year. Teams are on to that play because Jimmy Raye has abused that play last year. Remember, vs. the Eagles at the end of the season, they put Sheldon Brown on Vernon and he couldn't do s**t that game. Raye was stunned, but of course, he had no answer. In fact, the pass to Vernon actually got intercepted.


Now the guy that Raye swagger jacked from, Dan Henning (Dolphins' OC), his team actually ranked top 10 in both rushing and passing in 2008. in 2009, they were top 4 in rushing and 20th in passing (still better than the 49ers). tell me who are the Dolphins' QB, WRs, and TE again?

I love the direction of this team, however, Raye is still a thorn in my sight.

Doesn't he mean "...thorn in my side"?

No, this is what I meant



but yea, f**k Jimmy Raye

wtf is that....rugby? that sport is pure pain....

yup, rugby and lacrosse are pretty hardcore

Lax is really not that hardcore. I played lax and football for over eight years. Rugby and football are much much more hardcore.

Yea I played Lax myself and there a lot of rules that help protect people. It just looks really hardcore since everyone carries those sticks.

It USED to be way worse back in the day though before pad technology was really good, and I can only imagine what it must have been like for the Indians.

Alex Smith will be our OC this year.

Originally posted by GORO:
Normally I would be very excited about Crabtree and the other young talent but I do worry we are predicatable.

Is Solari going to be allowed to implement his trap blocking scheme? Or is he going to only be allowed to teach the straight up blocking that we have had for the last 3 years?

Is Raye going to be better as an Offensive Coordinator in year 2?

And finally is Alex Smith going to correct his mechanics? Is he going to be able to take the ball from the center and make plays downfield? Or is he only going to be successfull when in the shotgun?

You do know that most of Smith's TD passes were from under center right? I do not know who came up with the myth that Smith can't play under center, but it is bunk.

Everything is different now with Davis and Iupati being added. The offense should really humm now with Gore having holes to run through and Alex having time to throw the ball to his recievers. I too am not worried.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by GORO:
Normally I would be very excited about Crabtree and the other young talent but I do worry we are predicatable.

Is Solari going to be allowed to implement his trap blocking scheme? Or is he going to only be allowed to teach the straight up blocking that we have had for the last 3 years?

Is Raye going to be better as an Offensive Coordinator in year 2?

And finally is Alex Smith going to correct his mechanics? Is he going to be able to take the ball from the center and make plays downfield? Or is he only going to be successfull when in the shotgun?

You do know that most of Smith's TD passes were from under center right? I do not know who came up with the myth that Smith can't play under center, but it is bunk.

That's the case for every team. Once you get inside the 20 you need the threat of the run to give yourselves more space to operate.

You can't even make the case that Alex can play period so to say it's bunk is your personal opinion.

Originally posted by TeambyTheBay:
I feel that our offensive players will never reach their potential under Jimmy Raye. Let's be completely honest here, this guy is terrible. We knew EXACTLY what Raye was calling 70% of the time during our games last year. And remember how horrible the TASER was? we were the kings of three and outs because of that BS. Also, don't think for a second that the post pattern will work for Vernon everytime next year. Teams are on to that play because Jimmy Raye has abused that play last year. Remember, vs. the Eagles at the end of the season, they put Sheldon Brown on Vernon and he couldn't do s**t that game. Raye was stunned, but of course, he had no answer. In fact, the pass to Vernon actually got intercepted.


Now the guy that Raye swagger jacked from, Dan Henning (Dolphins' OC), his team actually ranked top 10 in both rushing and passing in 2008. in 2009, they were top 4 in rushing and 20th in passing (still better than the 49ers). tell me who are the Dolphins' QB, WRs, and TE again?

I love the direction of this team, however, Raye is still a thorn in my sight.

he had a couple good years with the chiefs. im still hanging on for hope. although, theres noo excuses this year. too much talent. if he cant get it done, i bet mike johnson will take over

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by GORO:
Normally I would be very excited about Crabtree and the other young talent but I do worry we are predicatable.

Is Solari going to be allowed to implement his trap blocking scheme? Or is he going to only be allowed to teach the straight up blocking that we have had for the last 3 years?

Is Raye going to be better as an Offensive Coordinator in year 2?

And finally is Alex Smith going to correct his mechanics? Is he going to be able to take the ball from the center and make plays downfield? Or is he only going to be successfull when in the shotgun?

You do know that most of Smith's TD passes were from under center right? I do not know who came up with the myth that Smith can't play under center, but it is bunk.

That's the case for every team. Once you get inside the 20 you need the threat of the run to give yourselves more space to operate.

You can't even make the case that Alex can play period so to say it's bunk is your personal opinion.

WTF are you babbling about? Smith's stats from last years show he can play, that he can't play is your misguided opinion. That is as ridiculous as the people posting in this thread that a guy that has been a playcaller in the NFL for 20+ years isn't a real OC...the guy has forgotten more about calling plays than anyone here on this site will ever know.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by GORO:
Normally I would be very excited about Crabtree and the other young talent but I do worry we are predicatable.

Is Solari going to be allowed to implement his trap blocking scheme? Or is he going to only be allowed to teach the straight up blocking that we have had for the last 3 years?

Is Raye going to be better as an Offensive Coordinator in year 2?

And finally is Alex Smith going to correct his mechanics? Is he going to be able to take the ball from the center and make plays downfield? Or is he only going to be successfull when in the shotgun?

You do know that most of Smith's TD passes were from under center right? I do not know who came up with the myth that Smith can't play under center, but it is bunk.

That's the case for every team. Once you get inside the 20 you need the threat of the run to give yourselves more space to operate.

You can't even make the case that Alex can play period so to say it's bunk is your personal opinion.

WTF are you babbling about? Smith's stats from last years show he can play, that he can't play is your misguided opinion. That is as ridiculous as the people posting in this thread that a guy that has been a playcaller in the NFL for 20+ years isn't a real OC...the guy has forgotten more about calling plays than anyone here on this site will ever know.

His stats were nothing to brag about. He wasn't above average in any statisical measure despite being 10th in passing attempts. He's not accurate (17th), he doesn't get the ball down the field (24th in YPC, 30th in 1st down %). He's not a leader or a winner.

You want to talk stats. 1 300 yard game in 40 starts. Watch out that man can play.

As for Raye. That might be the problem. He's forgotten more about play calling than anyone here knows.

[ Edited by tjd808185 on May 1, 2010 at 12:42:57 ]