Dominique Zeigler

Zeigler just gets injured too much. I think we should hold 6 receivers and keep Hill inactive in case Zeigler gets injured.

Originally posted by 49ERwhiner:

Originally posted by valrod33:
Crabtree
Morgan
Ginn
Williams
Ziegler


Those will be our opening day WRs


BOOK IT

Barring injuries I can see it !!!!

i like ziggy but with ginn and williams already being toothpicks i dont like the fact that only crabtree and morgan are big enough to take a few hits in our receiving corps. hill has good size and speed and good hands if he could only stay healthy

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Zeigler just gets injured too much. I think we should hold 6 receivers and keep Hill inactive in case Zeigler gets injured.

Not as much as Hill

say bye bye to Balmer and give his roster spot to Ziggy

Seems like he is having a very good camp. He needs to keep it going during the preseason games. As long as he keeps competing and making plays I think he'll make the final roster. His height is definitely a plus........

Originally posted by 49ERwhiner:
Come on Ziggy , I like seeing him pushing Hill and Jones with their nagging little injuries.

Pushing them? That would imply they're better than him and he's keeping them on their toes. They're not better.

Zeigler is considered too small and people assume he can't take hits, but the main reason he never really sees the field is because he's not as good at blocking as some of the other WRs. However, I think he's more of a threat than Jason Hill, Brandon Jones or even Ginn (since he's a one-trick pony) and a much better target for Alex Smith to work with on passing downs.

[ Edited by 49erRider on Aug 12, 2010 at 15:58:03 ]

I still don't get why Josh Morgan is such a lock as our second starter...it has to be because of his blocking ability because as a WR, I don't see him being much better than Hill, Zeigler, or even Jones (who was decent as a Titan).

Originally posted by Leathaface:
I still don't get why Josh Morgan is such a lock as our second starter...it has to be because of his blocking ability because as a WR, I don't see him being much better than Hill, Zeigler, or even Jones (who was decent as a Titan).

i personally thought Hill played better when he was in last year than Morgan but Morgan is pretty good too. i think hes more durable than the other guys and he can block downfield better. if Ginn keeps catching everything in practice tho he could push morgan for a starting job i think

Originally posted by Leathaface:
I still don't get why Josh Morgan is such a lock as our second starter...it has to be because of his blocking ability because as a WR, I don't see him being much better than Hill, Zeigler, or even Jones (who was decent as a Titan).

Exactly what I've been saying all along. I've liked Ziggy for years and like others have taken heat because many say he's just a TC or preseason warrior. I think he's a sleeper and could pleasantly surprise alot of people and would contribute as much or more than those ahead of him, with the exception of blocking prowess, where Morgan has the edge (the only edge, IMHO). And let's face it, he's ahd 4 years to put on weight and it ain't happened, so I doubt it will anytime soon. The coaches must see something in him to keep him around 4 years, so I hope it's finally his time to shine!

Originally posted by 4evrfan:

Originally posted by Leathaface:
I still don't get why Josh Morgan is such a lock as our second starter...it has to be because of his blocking ability because as a WR, I don't see him being much better than Hill, Zeigler, or even Jones (who was decent as a Titan).

Exactly what I've been saying all along. I've liked Ziggy for years and like others have taken heat because many say he's just a TC or preseason warrior. I think he's a sleeper and could pleasantly surprise alot of people and would contribute as much or more than those ahead of him, with the exception of blocking prowess, where Morgan has the edge (the only edge, IMHO). And let's face it, he's ahd 4 years to put on weight and it ain't happened, so I doubt it will anytime soon. The coaches must see something in him to keep him around 4 years, so I hope it's finally his time to shine!

Sullivan the WR coach loves the kid, from what I read he would start him if he had his way. Which surprised me, if that was the case, so it seems the other coaches (namely Raye and Singletary) have more of a say as to who starts. Which should answer some peoples question, as we all know its Run first, so if you can't block, sit down.

1. Crabs - Stud
2. Morgan - Well rounded
3. Jones - Good blocker
4. Ginn - Decoy
5. Williams - Speedster. Pick of new regime.

6. Hill or Zeigler - Both are McCloughan acquisitions. Both seem to have the same skill-set. Let the battle continue!

Originally posted by doc_brown_:
1. Crabs - Stud
2. Morgan - Well rounded
3. Jones - Good blocker
4. Ginn - Decoy
5. Williams - Speedster. Pick of new regime.

6. Hill or Zeigler - Both are McCloughan acquisitions. Both seem to have the same skill-set. Let the battle continue!

I feel Jones is not #3, durability problems, muffed as a returner, blocker? Have not heard that, btw Jones was also a McCloughan acquisition. The battle is Ziggy, Hill and Jones.

Originally posted by WildBill:

Originally posted by doc_brown_:
1. Crabs - Stud
2. Morgan - Well rounded
3. Jones - Good blocker
4. Ginn - Decoy
5. Williams - Speedster. Pick of new regime.

6. Hill or Zeigler - Both are McCloughan acquisitions. Both seem to have the same skill-set. Let the battle continue!

I feel Jones is not #3, durability problems, muffed as a returner, blocker? Have not heard that, btw Jones was also a McCloughan acquisition. The battle is Ziggy, Hill and Jones.

jones is as good as gone i dont know why you have him at #3. i would say crabs sits at the top, morgan is #2 unless ginn keeps impressing, ginn at #3 and rising, jason hill at #4 and the rook at #5. ziggy would make it if they keep six but i dont see them taking 4 guys that artent even close to 200 lbs into the season as their receivers. its a long season and a fragile receiving corps is not a good thing.

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by WildBill:

Originally posted by doc_brown_:
1. Crabs - Stud
2. Morgan - Well rounded
3. Jones - Good blocker
4. Ginn - Decoy
5. Williams - Speedster. Pick of new regime.

6. Hill or Zeigler - Both are McCloughan acquisitions. Both seem to have the same skill-set. Let the battle continue!

I feel Jones is not #3, durability problems, muffed as a returner, blocker? Have not heard that, btw Jones was also a McCloughan acquisition. The battle is Ziggy, Hill and Jones.

jones is as good as gone i dont know why you have him at #3. i would say crabs sits at the top, morgan is #2 unless ginn keeps impressing, ginn at #3 and rising, jason hill at #4 and the rook at #5. ziggy would make it if they keep six but i dont see them taking 4 guys that artent even close to 200 lbs into the season as their receivers. its a long season and a fragile receiving corps is not a good thing.

I agree that Jones is basically gone, Williams is a lock as a PR/Slot option, but Hill and Ziggy will likely come down to who has a better preseason. With reports of Hill's inconsistency in practices and Ziggy leading by example, it's completely possible that Singletary asks Sullivan who he wants to keep between Hill and Ziggy. In that situation I'm guessing it'll be Ziggy over Hill.

Originally posted by 5280High:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by WildBill:

Originally posted by doc_brown_:
1. Crabs - Stud
2. Morgan - Well rounded
3. Jones - Good blocker
4. Ginn - Decoy
5. Williams - Speedster. Pick of new regime.

6. Hill or Zeigler - Both are McCloughan acquisitions. Both seem to have the same skill-set. Let the battle continue!

I feel Jones is not #3, durability problems, muffed as a returner, blocker? Have not heard that, btw Jones was also a McCloughan acquisition. The battle is Ziggy, Hill and Jones.

jones is as good as gone i dont know why you have him at #3. i would say crabs sits at the top, morgan is #2 unless ginn keeps impressing, ginn at #3 and rising, jason hill at #4 and the rook at #5. ziggy would make it if they keep six but i dont see them taking 4 guys that artent even close to 200 lbs into the season as their receivers. its a long season and a fragile receiving corps is not a good thing.

I agree that Jones is basically gone, Williams is a lock as a PR/Slot option, but Hill and Ziggy will likely come down to who has a better preseason. With reports of Hill's inconsistency in practices and Ziggy leading by example, it's completely possible that Singletary asks Sullivan who he wants to keep between Hill and Ziggy. In that situation I'm guessing it'll be Ziggy over Hill.

u could be right but i think Hill has always been kinda weak in practice but he plays well in games most of the time. itll come down to the wire unless they keep em both and keep six with the rook just being a special teams specialist/emergency receiver