Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:Originally posted by Oakland9er:
Right now the #2 spot belongs to D. Walker primarily because of his versatility.
WTF?
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:Originally posted by Oakland9er:
Right now the #2 spot belongs to D. Walker primarily because of his versatility.
WTF?
Originally posted by maxsmart:Originally posted by baltien:
I think you guys tend to over exaggerate what speed means on the field..... Hill and Jones are two of the fastest guys on the team. But straight line speed doesn't mean much in the NFL.
True. Running a straight-line 40 in shorts on a track means little. Neither Hill or Jones are quick or shifty, and they can't fool the CB. Jones has a total of only 9 TD's in 5 years in the NFL. McC paid Jones $16.5 million, but McClown played baseball, not football, and he also apparently doesn't understand that straight-line track speed is much different than change-of-direction football speed.
The 49ers are built (by McC) for power running and have NO real speed threats at either WR or RB. The WR’s are all big power/possession WR’s (Crabtree, Morgan, Hill, Jones, Battle). All of their RB’s are power guys (Gore, Coffee, Robinson, Norris). None of these 9 core 'skill' guys are speed burners or shifty return guys, yet they still can't run the ball, and they are not speedy, so they can't stretch the defense either. This is a sign of tunnel-vision ignorance by the guys constructing the team, and their infatuation with ‘power’ and their blindness to the value of speed and shiftiness. They fail to understand the balance, the yin-yang, that the threat of speedy/shifty guys opens up the power game.
The 9ers are so devoid of speed / open-field threats, I would suggest getting BOTH a speed WR AND a speed RB.
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=136025
Originally posted by BigDaddy:
Not the WR fault. Everytime I've seen the ball pushed downfield it's been underthrown or overthrown, or off target completely.
Originally posted by unst4bl3:
we actually take a lot of shots down field. Alex over throws them, or the wr's drop them. (not an alex hater)
The bad part about our "shots down the field" is the following Offensive drive.
1st down We run from the I-Form up the middle for no gain.
2nd down run the same iform play the opposite direction gain of two
3rd down we do a bubble screen for a loss of two yards.
Originally posted by norcal49er864:Originally posted by baltien:
I think you guys tend to over exaggerate what speed means on the field. In a way, you already answered your own question. Hill and Jones are probably two of the fastest guys on the team. But straight line speed doesn't mean much in the NFL.
Ability to get open does. After that it's ability to catch. I've watched every Niner game this season and IMO, I don't think either is the issue with them. They just haven't played very much is all. I say come training camp, let Morgan, Hill & Jones battle it out for the #2 and #3 spots. Morgan has done an alright job as number 2, but not well enough to where I'd say he shouldn't be challenged for his spot.
And should you feel like you need an example in the whole speed vs ability argument, just look at Crabtree. On paper, he's probably only faster than Battle.
But the boy has sick hands and is consistently able to get open.
Haha I feel like crabtree is probably a little bit faster than that...