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Coordinator Thread...and rest of staff

  • Jcool
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Originally posted by maximill15:
Jcool you think Harbaugh is going to bring his entire staff with him? outside of his HC replacement, unless stanford hires someone outside?

The ones with NFL experience yes, unless one of them gets the Stanford job. He was pretty much building his NFL staff while at Stanford. I'm sure there will be some changes, depending who gets the Stanford job.
Originally posted by baltien:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
David Shaw - OC (Harbaugh's brain)
Vic Fangio - DC (current DC at Stanford)
Tom Cable - OL coach (power running game done right)
Tom Rathman - RB (keep Woody!)

I think this is a very likely scenario. Though I don't know if I'm sold on Fangio....dude presided over some pretty terrible defenses last time he coached in the pros (02-05 Texans).

He was also coaching an expansion team.
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by baltien:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
David Shaw - OC (Harbaugh's brain)
Vic Fangio - DC (current DC at Stanford)
Tom Cable - OL coach (power running game done right)
Tom Rathman - RB (keep Woody!)

I think this is a very likely scenario. Though I don't know if I'm sold on Fangio....dude presided over some pretty terrible defenses last time he coached in the pros (02-05 Texans).

He was also coaching an expansion team.

yeah, not much talent on those teams!

What are some WCO coaches/ assistants we can look at around the NFL. i know we cant interview current OC's unless its for an upgraded position...
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Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by baltien:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
David Shaw - OC (Harbaugh's brain)
Vic Fangio - DC (current DC at Stanford)
Tom Cable - OL coach (power running game done right)
Tom Rathman - RB (keep Woody!)

I think this is a very likely scenario. Though I don't know if I'm sold on Fangio....dude presided over some pretty terrible defenses last time he coached in the pros (02-05 Texans).

He was also coaching an expansion team.

Quote:
Prior to joining the Ravens, Fangio spent four seasons as the defensive coordinator of the Houston Texans (2002-05). His 2002 defense ranked eighth in the AFC and fourth in the conference in pass defense. The Texans scored three defensive touchdowns against the Pittsburgh Steelers at Heinz Field in Week 14 en route to a 24-6 victory.

In 2004, the Texans set a team record with 22 interceptions, which ranked fifth in the NFL, and returned five picks for touchdowns. Houston did not allow a touchdown for 13 straight quarters from Week 13 to 16, which was the longest stretch by any team in the league that season.

http://www.gostanford.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/fangio_vic00.html
Originally posted by ziggy_gonna_rock:
My Guess :

Keep Solari
Keep Ray Brown
Keep Tomsula
Keep Munusku
Keep rathman
Keep Johnson


He brings in OC .

If you look at it, this team had a very talented coaching staff. The problem was that the Head Coach didnt let anyone do their own s**t.

f**k that, get rid of all these losers
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
David Shaw - OC (Harbaugh's brain)
Vic Fangio - DC (current DC at Stanford)
Tom Cable - OL coach (power running game done right)
Tom Rathman - RB (keep Woody!)

this gives me a major boner. Cable would be able to give the biggest F U to Al Davis
Originally posted by monsterzero789:
FWIW, Ratto was on CSN saying Stanford will probably try to retain one of the coordinators as HC. He named Shaw as probably the guy they will try to keep.

With the questions regarding the new CBA that will create some doubts about when Harbaugh can start implementing his system, he would be wise to retain Mike Johnson (at least in some capacity) so there will be continuity. If things go badly with the CBA, Harbaugh may have to go with some form of last year's offensive playbook.
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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Originally posted by monsterzero789:
FWIW, Ratto was on CSN saying Stanford will probably try to retain one of the coordinators as HC. He named Shaw as probably the guy they will try to keep.

With the questions regarding the new CBA that will create some doubts about when Harbaugh can start implementing his system, he would be wise to retain Mike Johnson (at least in some capacity) so there will be continuity. If things go badly with the CBA, Harbaugh may have to go with some form of last year's offensive playbook.

He doesn't care about continuity, he is going to implement his own system with his own coaches.
Originally posted by maximill15:
Jcool you think Harbaugh is going to bring his entire staff with him? outside of his HC replacement, unless stanford hires someone outside?

You talk'n to me or the other jcool?

I don't think he brings his entire staff because Stanford needs a successor and with Luck coming back, they will probably promote in house which means Walsh may not travel with him.

Now, if they promote within, then that person may want to retain some of their current staff.

Harbaugh is no fool. He will put together a staff that works best for the NFL, not college. I think it wouldn't be a good idea on his part to bring an entire college staff (even though they have NFL experience) with him.

Success in college does not = success in the NFL. Not all of these guys had success in the NFL at their relative positions.
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Originally posted by monsterzero789:
FWIW, Ratto was on CSN saying Stanford will probably try to retain one of the coordinators as HC. He named Shaw as probably the guy they will try to keep.

With the questions regarding the new CBA that will create some doubts about when Harbaugh can start implementing his system, he would be wise to retain Mike Johnson (at least in some capacity) so there will be continuity. If things go badly with the CBA, Harbaugh may have to go with some form of last year's offensive playbook.

I mean, we only ran like 4 different plays last yr....
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by baltien:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
David Shaw - OC (Harbaugh's brain)
Vic Fangio - DC (current DC at Stanford)
Tom Cable - OL coach (power running game done right)
Tom Rathman - RB (keep Woody!)

I think this is a very likely scenario. Though I don't know if I'm sold on Fangio....dude presided over some pretty terrible defenses last time he coached in the pros (02-05 Texans).

He was also coaching an expansion team.

Quote:
Prior to joining the Ravens, Fangio spent four seasons as the defensive coordinator of the Houston Texans (2002-05). His 2002 defense ranked eighth in the AFC and fourth in the conference in pass defense. The Texans scored three defensive touchdowns against the Pittsburgh Steelers at Heinz Field in Week 14 en route to a 24-6 victory.

In 2004, the Texans set a team record with 22 interceptions, which ranked fifth in the NFL, and returned five picks for touchdowns. Houston did not allow a touchdown for 13 straight quarters from Week 13 to 16, which was the longest stretch by any team in the league that season.

http://www.gostanford.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/fangio_vic00.html

Texans rankings under Fangio:

2002: 20th in points allowed.
2003: 31st in points allowed.
2004: 15th in points allowed.
2005: 32nd in points allowed.

Source: ESPN
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Originally posted by monsterzero789:
FWIW, Ratto was on CSN saying Stanford will probably try to retain one of the coordinators as HC. He named Shaw as probably the guy they will try to keep.

With the questions regarding the new CBA that will create some doubts about when Harbaugh can start implementing his system, he would be wise to retain Mike Johnson (at least in some capacity) so there will be continuity. If things go badly with the CBA, Harbaugh may have to go with some form of last year's offensive playbook.

He doesn't care about continuity, he is going to implement his own system with his own coaches.

He's an innovator. Who's to say he doesn't keep Johnson and mix in some spread stuff.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Originally posted by monsterzero789:
FWIW, Ratto was on CSN saying Stanford will probably try to retain one of the coordinators as HC. He named Shaw as probably the guy they will try to keep.

With the questions regarding the new CBA that will create some doubts about when Harbaugh can start implementing his system, he would be wise to retain Mike Johnson (at least in some capacity) so there will be continuity. If things go badly with the CBA, Harbaugh may have to go with some form of last year's offensive playbook.

He doesn't care about continuity, he is going to implement his own system with his own coaches.

He's an innovator. Who's to say he doesn't keep Johnson and mix in some spread stuff. I'm sure he understands that everything that worked in college won't work as well in the pros.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by maximill15:
Jcool you think Harbaugh is going to bring his entire staff with him? outside of his HC replacement, unless stanford hires someone outside?

You talk'n to me or the other jcool?

I don't think he brings his entire staff because Stanford needs a successor and with Luck coming back, they will probably promote in house which means Walsh may not travel with him.

Now, if they promote within, then that person may want to retain some of their current staff.

Harbaugh is no fool. He will put together a staff that works best for the NFL, not college. I think it wouldn't be a good idea on his part to bring an entire college staff (even though they have NFL experience) with him.

Success in college does not = success in the NFL. Not all of these guys had success in the NFL at their relative positions.

Jcool not Joecool

I was asking both of ya
  • Jcool
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Originally posted by monsterzero789:
FWIW, Ratto was on CSN saying Stanford will probably try to retain one of the coordinators as HC. He named Shaw as probably the guy they will try to keep.

With the questions regarding the new CBA that will create some doubts about when Harbaugh can start implementing his system, he would be wise to retain Mike Johnson (at least in some capacity) so there will be continuity. If things go badly with the CBA, Harbaugh may have to go with some form of last year's offensive playbook.

He doesn't care about continuity, he is going to implement his own system with his own coaches.

He's an innovator. Who's to say he doesn't keep Johnson and mix in some spread stuff. I'm sure he understands that everything that worked in college won't work as well in the pros.

I think he knows he has to get rid of most if not all of this staff and move as far away from the old coaching staff as he can.