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The Meltdown has begun!

It took 8 games for the media, fans and bandwagoners to start throwing in the towel. Talk about resiliance.

I understand the media perspective. Guys like Barrows, Cohn and the like now have thieir chance to retaliate for not being allowed on the field to watch OTA's/practices. It's obvious that writer's are allowing their bitterness to influence the manner in which they pile on in their articles. Since when did journalists become psychiatrists and infer the meaning of what the coaches statements really meant.

My question is this: What did everyone expect??? Did anyone expect this to be anything but a work in progress? They have a favorable schedule from here on out and have at least a chance to be a .500 club. Going into the season, their schedule looked awfully tough and to end up at .500 would have been respectable.

Now, take into account a completely new coaching staff and a re-evaluation of player/personnel (A.Smith, J. Hill, T. Brown) and the results are to be expected. We have an offensive line that has struggled (expected) and a defensive line that has sporadically pressed opposing QB's (expected). Maybe changes to the coaching staff will be made at season's end. The Saints grabbed D Coordinator Williams after Sean Payton was at the helm for 3yrs and that tweak seems to be working out pretty well for them. It didn't happen overnight folks.

Why is everyone caught up in "Why isn't coach focusing on the Cardinals?" Anyone hear of the saying "Focus on what you can control." In college football - do Texas, Alabama and TCU coaches worry about what the Florida Gators are doing. Nope. They focus on what teams are ahead on their schedule. Win your games and the rest will work itself out.

Lighten up and relax!

[ Edited by skylynx05 on Nov 10, 2009 at 09:33:25 ]
Originally posted by skylynx05:
It took 8 games for the media, fans and bandwagoners to start throwing in the towel. Talk about resiliance.

I understand the media perspective. Guys like Barrows, Cohn and the like now have thieir chance to retaliate for not being allowed on the field to watch OTA's/practices. It's obvious that writer's are allowing their bitterness to influence the manner in which they pile on in their articles. Since when did journalists become psychiatrists and infer the meaning of what the coaches statements really meant.

My question is this: What did everyone expect??? Did anyone expect this to be anything but a work in progress? They have a favorable schedule from here on out and have at least a chance to be a .500 club. Going into the season, their schedule looked awfully tough and to end up at .500 would have been respectable.

Now, take into account a completely new coaching staff and a re-evaluation of player/personnel (A.Smith, J. Hill, T. Brown) and the results are to be expected. We have an offensive line that has struggled (expected) and a defensive line that has sporadically pressed opposing QB's (expected). Maybe changes to the coaching staff will be made at season's end. The Saints grabbed D Coordinator Williams after Sean Payton was at the helm for 3yrs and that tweak seems to be working out pretty well for them. It didn't happen overnight folks.

Why is everyone caught up in "Why isn't coach focusing on the Cardinals?" Anyone hear of the saying "Focus on what you can control." In college football - do Texas, Alabama and TCU coaches worry about what the Florida Gators are doing. Nope. They focus on what teams are ahead on their schedule. Win your games and the rest will work itself out.

Lighten up and relax!

Yep , it is not going to happen in one season . Man if the 49ers lose against the bears the MELTDOWN is going to explode.
Originally posted by skylynx05:
It took 8 games for the media, fans and bandwagoners to start throwing in the towel. Talk about resiliance.

I understand the media perspective. Guys like Barrows, Cohn and the like now have thieir chance to retaliate for not being allowed on the field to watch OTA's/practices. It's obvious that writer's are allowing their bitterness to influence the manner in which they pile on in their articles. Since when did journalists become psychiatrists and infer the meaning of what the coaches statements really meant.

My question is this: What did everyone expect??? Did anyone expect this to be anything but a work in progress? They have a favorable schedule from here on out and have at least a chance to be a .500 club. Going into the season, their schedule looked awfully tough and to end up at .500 would have been respectable.

Now, take into account a completely new coaching staff and a re-evaluation of player/personnel (A.Smith, J. Hill, T. Brown) and the results are to be expected. We have an offensive line that has struggled (expected) and a defensive line that has sporadically pressed opposing QB's (expected). Maybe changes to the coaching staff will be made at season's end. The Saints grabbed D Coordinator Williams after Sean Payton was at the helm for 3yrs and that tweak seems to be working out pretty well for them. It didn't happen overnight folks.

Why is everyone caught up in "Why isn't coach focusing on the Cardinals?" Anyone hear of the saying "Focus on what you can control." In college football - do Texas, Alabama and TCU coaches worry about what the Florida Gators are doing. Nope. They focus on what teams are ahead on their schedule. Win your games and the rest will work itself out.

Lighten up and relax!


No it didn't happen overnight - we've been under construction for 7 years!

Just wait till next year......
It's going to take time ......
Change doesn't happen overnight.......
Give them 2 or 3 more off-seasons, they'll get it right at some point .......

I recall some of these very same reporters in 1988 calling out Bill Walsh in the same way. No news is good news and some of these reporters would in deed like nothing better than to see the team and coach fail. I paid them no heed back then and I pay them no heed right now.

Lowell’s snotty line of questioning was not meant to get an answer but a response and that’s what he got. In my opinion, though his question may have been legitimate, regarding Singletary’s “show me don’t tell me” stance and how he knows how his team will respond, Lowell framed his question in the form of an insult and he should have expected the backlash he received. Instead, he countered the answer like a child who just had his favorite toy truck stomped on.

Lowell you have been Singed! Now grow up and get over it!

[ Edited by vermonator on Nov 10, 2009 at 10:22:03 ]
Not asking for overnight, but 7 years is the definition of patience. If A. Smith doesn't work out...10 years. I'll still be a fan...just a very frustrated one.
The overreaction to normal critical discussion has also begun.
Originally posted by jedi9er:
Not asking for overnight, but 7 years is the definition of patience. If A. Smith doesn't work out...10 years. I'll still be a fan...just a very frustrated one.

Had we blown up the coaching staff and hired some one other than Singletary as head coach, we would be much further behind the eight ball and considered a team in rebuilding mode (Rams, Bucks, Chiefs, Browns).

Currently, we still can salvage this season. A six game winning streak would erase all this bad blood.
Originally posted by djfullshred:
The overreaction to normal critical discussion has also begun.

Cuts both ways doesn't it?
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I think it is reasonable to expect continuous improvement, since the team was 7-9
last year and finished 5-4 anything less than 9-7 is unacceptable.
Originally posted by vermonator:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
The overreaction to normal critical discussion has also begun.

Cuts both ways doesn't it?

lol, it only cuts those that are wanting to bleed. Some people get emotionally wounded by reading criticism. I just see it as interesting discussion while I am bored at work.
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Originally posted by vermonator:
Originally posted by jedi9er:
Not asking for overnight, but 7 years is the definition of patience. If A. Smith doesn't work out...10 years. I'll still be a fan...just a very frustrated one.

Had we blown up the coaching staff and hired some one other than Singletary as head coach, we would be much further behind the eight ball and considered a team in rebuilding mode (Rams, Bucks, Chiefs, Browns).

Currently, we still can salvage this season. A six game winning streak would erase all this bad blood.

I respect your opinion but I disagree with it. Frankly, I don't even thing Singletary is accountable for:

Brandon Jones
Marvel Smith
Demetric Evans
Tony Pashos

0 for 4

Singletary is a rookie coach that has little help from his GM.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by vermonator:
Originally posted by jedi9er:
Not asking for overnight, but 7 years is the definition of patience. If A. Smith doesn't work out...10 years. I'll still be a fan...just a very frustrated one.

Had we blown up the coaching staff and hired some one other than Singletary as head coach, we would be much further behind the eight ball and considered a team in rebuilding mode (Rams, Bucks, Chiefs, Browns).

Currently, we still can salvage this season. A six game winning streak would erase all this bad blood.

I respect your opinion but I disagree with it. Frankly, I don't even thing Singletary is accountable for:

Brandon Jones
Marvel Smith
Demetric Evans
Tony Pashos

0 for 4

Singletary is a rookie coach that has little help from his GM.

Agree with you. The current GM is the one person in the organization who is primarily responible for all the players on this team. Singletary doesn't have the influence or tenure to be held to account for some of the 49er's questionable personnel moves.
At least the Niners aren't the Lions or Browns.