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When does a coaching staff lose its players?

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Are you concerned about the state of the Browns, Rams, Titans, Lions or some other equally horrible team?
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Originally posted by HearstFan:
When does a coaching staff lose the players? When the players stop believing the staff is doing the right thing to win games. You have to wonder if doubts aren't creeping into the players' minds about the offensive philoposhy:

1. Insisiting on running inside when its not working
2. Playing conservative to protect small leads

If we can see the flaws, you have to believe the players are going to get frustrated with it. When do they stop viewing Singeltary as a strong leader, and instead see him as just plain obstinate? I don't know how they view Raye, but their confidence in him has to be slipping also.

they should play better if they concerned. Simple. Coaches don't drop passes, muff punts and miss the first down marker by a yard.

I am frustrated this season.

But I highly disagree with you thinking.

You could just as easily ask "when are the players going to lose the coaches"
Originally posted by JC49:
"When does a coaching staff lose the players?"

When the head coach explains the loss by saying "we're a young team". Sounds like blaming the players to me. Hard to swallow when the coaching staff has done as much, if not more, to give away games.

Well coached teams don't make the mistakes that cost you the win. Singletary's whole pound the ball, play good defense philosophy also requires mistake free football. You can't win playing conservatively to keep things close if you can't control the game in the key moment or avoid the losing blunder. And how many times is Alex going to have to call the play or take a delay of game because they can't get him the plays? That's just embarrassing.


Singletary: Ok Jimmy, it's 2nd and long. I know we're going to call a dive play, but which way? Right or left? Jimmy? JIMMY!!! Wake up man and call the %&*@ play, or I swear I am dropping my pants at halftime!!

Jimmy: zzzzzzzzz

Ref: Delay of game, 5 yard penalty. 2nd down and 20.
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by HearstFan:
When does a coaching staff lose the players? When the players stop believing the staff is doing the right thing to win games. You have to wonder if doubts aren't creeping into the players' minds about the offensive philoposhy:

1. Insisiting on running inside when its not working
2. Playing conservative to protect small leads

If we can see the flaws, you have to believe the players are going to get frustrated with it. When do they stop viewing Singeltary as a strong leader, and instead see him as just plain obstinate? I don't know how they view Raye, but their confidence in him has to be slipping also.

they should play better if they concerned. Simple. Coaches don't drop passes, muff punts and miss the first down marker by a yard.

I am frustrated this season.

But I highly disagree with you thinking.

You could just as easily ask "when are the players going to lose the coaches"

In the first few games this team had a chip on its shoulder and played tough blue collar football. After the Vikings loss players started drinking the kool-aid (that we lost on a fluke play). They bought into the hype that we had already won the West and you can still see it in many of the players attitudes, ie: VD, Bly and Morgan.

The only thing I blame the coaching staff for is Singletary no longer holding his players as accountable. No more getting in players faces, sending them to the locker room, etc. He seems to be more upset with the Refs. He is leaving it up to the young leaders like Gore and Willis. I think thats a good idea but this is a young team and I think Singletary still needs to make his leadership show.

It just seems like the whole team isn't playing as tough as we did in the first few games. Did they take the "Hill" off the practice field?
Originally posted by Nuns:
Originally posted by ttime1:
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What are you talking about???? Those were Alex's responsibilities. Against the Texans, he did not look over to the sideline when they were screaming at him to call timeout. The one yesterday, he admitted that it took too long for them to get out of the huddle. Bottom line though, it is the QB's responsibility to Not get a delay of game penalty!!!

In three of the four losses, the team has failed to execute at key moments of the game. Sing is right, this team has not demonstrated an ability to win and make mistakes. Thus, you can't take as many risks as you would like to take until the team has matured.

Head Coaches can call timeout.

I thought so too. But according to the article the player had to call timeout and they were screaming at Alex to do so but he was not paying attention.
Not as quick as they lose idiot fans that think they know more than the real coaches/gm's.
We see it all the time... the head coach revolving door in the NFL and every other pro sport. Fans expect winners. Players expect to win. Coaches come with promises of that, and people and players buy into it because it's what they want to hear, and what they believe.

When the wins don't come after a year or 2, the coach loses the support of the fans. When the wins don't come after 2 or 3 years, the players lose faith in the coach's ability and leadership. At that point, it's beyond repair, and in comes a new coach with promises of his own.

That's just the way it goes. So, this is Singletary's 2nd season sort of... I'd say next year is it. If he doesn't lead them to the playoff's next season, he'll be out, even though he may be a great coach. Sometimes it's like ketchup and ice cream. Both are good, but not together.