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AZ loss puts us right back in NFC West race
Nov 2, 2009 at 2:09 PM
- Shifty
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Only game from here on out where i wont have confidence in us winning is against Philly.
Nov 2, 2009 at 2:18 PM
- JC49
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Originally posted by Supr9er:
We got a gift today with Carolina beating the Cardinals. Arizona has been pretty inconsistent as they were last year. They've also got some tough games at CHI, at SF, vs. MIN, at TEN. The trouble is they are playing STL twice and still have one with SEA.
We still have a good shot at winning the division if the offense can build on Alex's strong play. I'm hoping that Raye will start opening things up. I heard someone say that Raye's offenses open up more as the season goes on. Let's hope so!
We have to win our division. Two of the Cowboys, Giants, Eagles, the Packers, Bears, and Falcons are all teams we would have to contend with for the wildcards and are already behind. Even if we got hot three out of five of those teams would have to falter dramatically. That's not much to pin your hopes on. We need to, and still can, win our division.
We need to win at home against Arizona to even things, hang on to the tie breaking divisional record, and match the cardinals the rest of the way. When I look at our remaining games to have any hope or aspirations we have to win our remaining divisional games. After that I see six games of which we should win at least three to have any right at the playoffs. If we can't go 6-3 over the remainder of our season we don't belong in the post season.
I believe we can do that if we stop shooting ourselves in the foot. Singletary can talk about us being a "young" team (blaming the players) but I think it's the coaching staff making the mistakes that keep costing us games (with the exception of Morgan's celebration foul this past weekend).
Nov 2, 2009 at 4:48 PM
- mississippi_sam
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First the good news:
We are in control of our own destiny. If the 49ers can put together a dominant run through the remaining easy breezy schedule, we will most likely win the division. If we beat the Cardinals again, we'll be in the driver's seat for sure.
Now the bad news:
We have been inconsistent and because of that, it is very unlikely that we will win more than 5 or 6 of our remaining 9 games. That puts us at 8-8 or 9-7.
The Cardinals have already won 4 games and they play the Rams twice, the Lions, the Seahawks, and the Titans over the final weeks. That's 5 games against very poor teams. Couple that with the fact that the Cardinals are 2-1 against good football teams. If the Cards take 4 of the 5 against the NFL armpit teams, and win just one other game, the division is likely going to fall in their lap again.
It is extremely unlikely that the Cardinals will finish under .500.
The short of it:
The 49ers and Cardinals are similar in overall talent. They are likely to have a similar record down the stretch. That means what we all knew from the start of the season: The 2nd meeting between the two teams will most likely be THE deciding factor in who takes the division.
We are in control of our own destiny. If the 49ers can put together a dominant run through the remaining easy breezy schedule, we will most likely win the division. If we beat the Cardinals again, we'll be in the driver's seat for sure.
Now the bad news:
We have been inconsistent and because of that, it is very unlikely that we will win more than 5 or 6 of our remaining 9 games. That puts us at 8-8 or 9-7.
The Cardinals have already won 4 games and they play the Rams twice, the Lions, the Seahawks, and the Titans over the final weeks. That's 5 games against very poor teams. Couple that with the fact that the Cardinals are 2-1 against good football teams. If the Cards take 4 of the 5 against the NFL armpit teams, and win just one other game, the division is likely going to fall in their lap again.
It is extremely unlikely that the Cardinals will finish under .500.
The short of it:
The 49ers and Cardinals are similar in overall talent. They are likely to have a similar record down the stretch. That means what we all knew from the start of the season: The 2nd meeting between the two teams will most likely be THE deciding factor in who takes the division.
Nov 2, 2009 at 4:53 PM
- chico49erfan
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Originally posted by mississippi_sam:
First the good news:
We are in control of our own destiny. If the 49ers can put together a dominant run through the remaining easy breezy schedule, we will most likely win the division. If we beat the Cardinals again, we'll be in the driver's seat for sure.
Now the bad news:
We have been inconsistent and because of that, it is very unlikely that we will win more than 5 or 6 of our remaining 9 games. That puts us at 8-8 or 9-7.
The Cardinals have already won 4 games and they play the Rams twice, the Lions, the Seahawks, and the Titans over the final weeks. That's 5 games against very poor teams. Couple that with the fact that the Cardinals are 2-1 against good football teams. If the Cards take 4 of the 5 against the NFL armpit teams, and win just one other game, the division is likely going to fall in their lap again.
It is extremely unlikely that the Cardinals will finish under .500.
The short of it:
The 49ers and Cardinals are similar in overall talent. They are likely to have a similar record down the stretch. That means what we all knew from the start of the season: The 2nd meeting between the two teams will most likely be THE deciding factor in who takes the division.
If we play like we did in the first half for the ENTIRE game, the only game I worry about is the one against Philly. We really dropped an important game against the Texans -- which I felt we really needed in order to win this division -- but definitely if we beat AZ at home I think we will have enough momentum to go into the stretch with enough confidence be #1 in the NFC West.
Plus, we can root for the Cards to lose every week and that's always fun!
Nov 2, 2009 at 4:55 PM
- TexasNiner84
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Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Only game from here on out where i wont have confidence in us winning is against Philly.
the raiders did it
Nov 2, 2009 at 4:58 PM
- Blitz
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Originally posted by mrbadd1:
Before we can worry about anything else, lets just beat the Titans. Forget about the playoffs, forget about what the Cardinals are doing, and forget about what we need in the draft. We are on a 3 game losing streak. We need to beat the Titans, enough said.
Hmmm, you make a good argument.
Nov 2, 2009 at 5:09 PM
- matt49er
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Originally posted by Supr9er:
We got a gift today with Carolina beating the Cardinals. Arizona has been pretty inconsistent as they were last year. They've also got some tough games at CHI, at SF, vs. MIN, at TEN. The trouble is they are playing STL twice and still have one with SEA.
We still have a good shot at winning the division if the offense can build on Alex's strong play. I'm hoping that Raye will start opening things up. I heard someone say that Raye's offenses open up more as the season goes on. Let's hope so!
we were never out of the race, we're 3-0 in a division that completely blows and is the worst in the NFL (thank God for that at least) this team will win every division game this year as well as a few more and sneak into the playoffs.
Nov 2, 2009 at 5:12 PM
- ClassicNiner
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We need to finish 9-7 and beat the Cards at home in December. Not too much to ask, despite the injuries.
Nov 2, 2009 at 6:12 PM
- backontop
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AZ has a very winnable schedule remaining.
@chicago
Seattle
@St. Louis
@Tennessee
Minnesota
@San Francisco
@Detroit
St. Louis
Green Bay
the 5 bolded games the Cardinals should win. The rest are still winnable for them. So if they only win those bolded games they will finish 9-7. If they can beat Tennesee, Minnesota or Greenbay they can finish 10-6 or better. Lets just hope that the 49ers can do better than that. Realistically I am not to sure that can happen. But I still remain faithful and root for my team every week
@chicago
Seattle
@St. Louis
@Tennessee
Minnesota
@San Francisco
@Detroit
St. Louis
Green Bay
the 5 bolded games the Cardinals should win. The rest are still winnable for them. So if they only win those bolded games they will finish 9-7. If they can beat Tennesee, Minnesota or Greenbay they can finish 10-6 or better. Lets just hope that the 49ers can do better than that. Realistically I am not to sure that can happen. But I still remain faithful and root for my team every week
Nov 2, 2009 at 7:33 PM
- Antix
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Hmmm..maybe it's just me but our remaining schedule seems to be a bit harder than most you are giving it credit for. We haven't proven we can beat a winning team outside of Arizona at all.
We have to play at Philly and Green Bay, most of you are prematurely counting the Bears as a win, we have to beat Zona and make damn sure we don't lose a single game against any team we shouldn't lose to (Sea, St Louis Det or Tenn)
At this point I'm very disappointed with our offensive philosophy goes. We're not gonna beat Philly GB Chi or Arizona trying to get a one point lead and sitting on it for the whole game.
Until we get a killer instinct we're gonna be stuck for the 7th year in a row looking forward to next year and I for one am really sick of it.
Maybe I'm being a bit pessimistic but the Indy loss really pissed me off. We could have beat the best team in the NFL at their place but once again we let it get away and it's been the same story over and over again.
We have to play at Philly and Green Bay, most of you are prematurely counting the Bears as a win, we have to beat Zona and make damn sure we don't lose a single game against any team we shouldn't lose to (Sea, St Louis Det or Tenn)
At this point I'm very disappointed with our offensive philosophy goes. We're not gonna beat Philly GB Chi or Arizona trying to get a one point lead and sitting on it for the whole game.
Until we get a killer instinct we're gonna be stuck for the 7th year in a row looking forward to next year and I for one am really sick of it.
Maybe I'm being a bit pessimistic but the Indy loss really pissed me off. We could have beat the best team in the NFL at their place but once again we let it get away and it's been the same story over and over again.
Nov 2, 2009 at 9:20 PM
- GORO
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Schedule looks favorable for us. But we have to RUN the Ball better and Protect Alex Smith on sure passing downs better.