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Sing should have cancelled the entire bye week

This thread was obviously created by someone who has absolutely no athletic experience at all. If they did they would know that rest is essential to improvement. Its only 4 days anyways stop being such a whiney little F*G
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by global_nomad:
Originally posted by matt49er:
why do the players have off anyway? rest the ones w/injury and stick them in film study. these players make millions of dollars and they are off several months out of the year. why do they need a week off? we got our butts kick and face a stretch of games we need all the work we can get. This also would have helped us figure out what we're going to do w/the OL and get Crabtree up to speed faster.

We were out played because ATL has faster players, came out hungry, and were prepared after their bye week.

Singletary's experience as a HOF play realizes the importance of a bye week: the only time in a 5 month stretch the players can see extended family and children. The team usually has extra practices early next week to make up for the time they had off.

Saying Singletary is crazy for given them a break is ignorant, he more than most coaches know the importance of 4 days off.

do you guys get bye week's at your job? you probably have a little vacation but you don't make millions and have off 5 months out of the year either. why can't players families come visit them? it's not like they can't afford to fly them in and put them up.

As a matter of fact, some of us do. Big deal. Is it a crime? I work 6 days a week. My season starts in March I get a "bye week" in the 3rd week of August. By then my voice is pretty tired and needs a break. I then work til mid December and then I get 11-12 weeks off. Except not really. If I want to stay employed I have to spend a lot of those 11 weeks off getting ready for the next season or face hitting the new season with last year's material. I could probably afford to do that once but not more than that.

Likewise I seriously doubt that these guys can do anything but stay on a pretty strict diet and workout regimen and do things like MMA cross-train a la Willis, Spikes during their "5 months off." Otherwise somebody who did more in the offseason mostlikely will be taking their job from them next season.

At some point these NFL players put in more time towards football than the next guy who didn't make it to the NFL. With a few exceptions, that's why they are in the NFL. It amazes me to hear people say how easy they have it because they are "making millions" and just gloss over the hellish work that it took for them to get there and the hellish price they pay to stay their for even a few years. 15-20 year careers are not the norm.

Do you do anything at your job as grueling as training camp? Unless you are fishing or crabbing in the Bering Sea, I doubt it. And it's not like you really know what any of these players' personal lives or financial obligations are like either. I imagine some of these guys are spread pretty thin. I know that's pretty hard to comprehend for some but it's the truth. 5 mill goes pretty quick if enough people can get their hands on it. A lot of these guys come from pretty humble circumstances and thus, are their families only ticket out of poverty.

Sorry to call you out on this Matt but you really don't know much about these guys' lives and what it's like.

If you don't like your job then figure out something you can do that lots of people will pay money to come see, experience or listen to.

When you go home, I bet the last thing you think about is work. These people do not have that luxury. And I doubt the potential for you to get totally jacked for the rest of your life at work is that great either as well.

My 11 year old's football coach was a starting fullback for the St Louis Cards back in the 70's. It takes him a while to get out of his car and hobble to the field. He's in his late 50's and can barely walk. Near as I can tell he's not bitter he seems grateful but he sure as hell payed a heavy toll for his NFL experience. A toll I doubt most will ever have to pay from working at their jobs.

I'll get off my soapbox now but until you walk in another person's shoes.....


didn't say it was a crime buddy all i'm saying is take these in do some extra film study have the offense do some walkthroughs w/crabtree and call it a day. give them 1/2 days or something but we're not in a position to take time off IMO that's all i'm saying. and again i don't care what it does to their body's fact is these guys are getting paid millions. if they do not manager their finances properly and are stretched thin as you seem to think alot of them are then they are complete idiots

i work at a major bank and my boss makes about 175-200K and he lives like a king. 2 houses, several cars, a boat a couple jet skis, pool in his back yard, huge house. he is by no means stretched thin and he has all that with very minimal debt. if you cannot live a great life with millions of dollars then you are an idiot man bottom line.

Funny I make about that much and somehow your #'s don't add up. I am married with 4 boys that eat. I have one car payment of 359.00 on an 08 Acura, a paid for 06 xB and a 98 Escort for the kids to drive. Just unloaded an 08 Odyssey-wife hated it and I didn't need the payment anymore either. I have a 2400.00 mortgage on a 4100 sq ft home. No pool. I have some money tied up in retirement investments. I don't starve but it's not like we can just go to Dillards or Best Buy when ever the hell we want and get whatever the hell we want. We try to go on a vacation once a year and that's about it. My oldest is a senior and starts college next year, I can help him with his tuition but that's about it. He's going to have to figure out the rest of it. I'm not up to my eyeballs in debt either and yet I am quite positive that I don't live like a king.

So either you're exaggerating or he's lining his pockets somewhere cuz the IRS comes and takes about 30-60k of that depending on what he can write off. He's hauling in 14, 500-16,600 gross except his pay is probably restructured at a lower monthly draw subsidized with quarterly bonuses/dividends to reduce payroll taxes yada yada yada so take home is probably closer to 9k per month. He has to have 3-5k in mortgages at least per month on a couple of homes even if he has put good money down on them, insurance on the aforementioned boat, several cars and jet skis, food, DIRECTV, utilities, property taxes, and 3ubtract another 30-50k a year away in a tax deferred SEP to reduce his tax liability. Boy we've really dumbed down prosperity here haven't we?

Try again.

don't respond matt
don't let them go into your head
you have a point, stick with it and don't feel obliged to justify yourself
most of the guys here just think sing makes all the right decision and it cannot be commented or criticized; if nolan was still here you would have the zone all behind you
Go figure ...
PS: wait for a week and a defeat against the texans then put your thread back on : you'll see that most of the guys will say they should have prepared during the bye week. Bets are already open
Originally posted by 49Fever:
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by global_nomad:
Originally posted by matt49er:
why do the players have off anyway? rest the ones w/injury and stick them in film study. these players make millions of dollars and they are off several months out of the year. why do they need a week off? we got our butts kick and face a stretch of games we need all the work we can get. This also would have helped us figure out what we're going to do w/the OL and get Crabtree up to speed faster.

We were out played because ATL has faster players, came out hungry, and were prepared after their bye week.

Singletary's experience as a HOF play realizes the importance of a bye week: the only time in a 5 month stretch the players can see extended family and children. The team usually has extra practices early next week to make up for the time they had off.

Saying Singletary is crazy for given them a break is ignorant, he more than most coaches know the importance of 4 days off.

do you guys get bye week's at your job? you probably have a little vacation but you don't make millions and have off 5 months out of the year either. why can't players families come visit them? it's not like they can't afford to fly them in and put them up.

As a matter of fact, some of us do. Big deal. Is it a crime? I work 6 days a week. My season starts in March I get a "bye week" in the 3rd week of August. By then my voice is pretty tired and needs a break. I then work til mid December and then I get 11-12 weeks off. Except not really. If I want to stay employed I have to spend a lot of those 11 weeks off getting ready for the next season or face hitting the new season with last year's material. I could probably afford to do that once but not more than that.

Likewise I seriously doubt that these guys can do anything but stay on a pretty strict diet and workout regimen and do things like MMA cross-train a la Willis, Spikes during their "5 months off." Otherwise somebody who did more in the offseason mostlikely will be taking their job from them next season.

At some point these NFL players put in more time towards football than the next guy who didn't make it to the NFL. With a few exceptions, that's why they are in the NFL. It amazes me to hear people say how easy they have it because they are "making millions" and just gloss over the hellish work that it took for them to get there and the hellish price they pay to stay their for even a few years. 15-20 year careers are not the norm.

Do you do anything at your job as grueling as training camp? Unless you are fishing or crabbing in the Bering Sea, I doubt it. And it's not like you really know what any of these players' personal lives or financial obligations are like either. I imagine some of these guys are spread pretty thin. I know that's pretty hard to comprehend for some but it's the truth. 5 mill goes pretty quick if enough people can get their hands on it. A lot of these guys come from pretty humble circumstances and thus, are their families only ticket out of poverty.

Sorry to call you out on this Matt but you really don't know much about these guys' lives and what it's like.

If you don't like your job then figure out something you can do that lots of people will pay money to come see, experience or listen to.

When you go home, I bet the last thing you think about is work. These people do not have that luxury. And I doubt the potential for you to get totally jacked for the rest of your life at work is that great either as well.

My 11 year old's football coach was a starting fullback for the St Louis Cards back in the 70's. It takes him a while to get out of his car and hobble to the field. He's in his late 50's and can barely walk. Near as I can tell he's not bitter he seems grateful but he sure as hell payed a heavy toll for his NFL experience. A toll I doubt most will ever have to pay from working at their jobs.

I'll get off my soapbox now but until you walk in another person's shoes.....


didn't say it was a crime buddy all i'm saying is take these in do some extra film study have the offense do some walkthroughs w/crabtree and call it a day. give them 1/2 days or something but we're not in a position to take time off IMO that's all i'm saying. and again i don't care what it does to their body's fact is these guys are getting paid millions. if they do not manager their finances properly and are stretched thin as you seem to think alot of them are then they are complete idiots

i work at a major bank and my boss makes about 175-200K and he lives like a king. 2 houses, several cars, a boat a couple jet skis, pool in his back yard, huge house. he is by no means stretched thin and he has all that with very minimal debt. if you cannot live a great life with millions of dollars then you are an idiot man bottom line.

Funny I make about that much and somehow your #'s don't add up. I am married with 4 boys that eat. I have one car payment of 359.00 on an 08 Acura, a paid for 06 xB and a 98 Escort for the kids to drive. Just unloaded an 08 Odyssey-wife hated it and I didn't need the payment anymore either. I have a 2400.00 mortgage on a 4100 sq ft home. No pool. I have some money tied up in retirement investments. I don't starve but it's not like we can just go to Dillards or Best Buy when ever the hell we want and get whatever the hell we want. We try to go on a vacation once a year and that's about it. My oldest is a senior and starts college next year, I can help him with his tuition but that's about it. He's going to have to figure out the rest of it. I'm not up to my eyeballs in debt either and yet I am quite positive that I don't live like a king.

So either you're exaggerating or he's lining his pockets somewhere cuz the IRS comes and takes about 30-60k of that depending on what he can write off. He's hauling in 14, 500-16,600 gross except his pay is probably restructured at a lower monthly draw subsidized with quarterly bonuses/dividends to reduce payroll taxes yada yada yada so take home is probably closer to 9k per month. He has to have 3-5k in mortgages at least per month on a couple of homes even if he has put good money down on them, insurance on the aforementioned boat, several cars and jet skis, food, DIRECTV, utilities, property taxes, and 3ubtract another 30-50k a year away in a tax deferred SEP to reduce his tax liability. Boy we've really dumbed down prosperity here haven't we?

Try again.

don't respond matt
don't let them go into your head
you have a point, stick with it and don't feel obliged to justify yourself
most of the guys here just think sing makes all the right decision and it cannot be commented or criticized; if nolan was still here you would have the zone all behind you
Go figure ...
PS: wait for a week and a defeat against the texans then put your thread back on : you'll see that most of the guys will say they should have prepared during the bye week. Bets are already open

Yeah, let's hope for a loss to the Texans so Matt can prove his point.

Asinine.
Originally posted by 49Fever:
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by global_nomad:
Originally posted by matt49er:
why do the players have off anyway? rest the ones w/injury and stick them in film study. these players make millions of dollars and they are off several months out of the year. why do they need a week off? we got our butts kick and face a stretch of games we need all the work we can get. This also would have helped us figure out what we're going to do w/the OL and get Crabtree up to speed faster.

We were out played because ATL has faster players, came out hungry, and were prepared after their bye week.

Singletary's experience as a HOF play realizes the importance of a bye week: the only time in a 5 month stretch the players can see extended family and children. The team usually has extra practices early next week to make up for the time they had off.

Saying Singletary is crazy for given them a break is ignorant, he more than most coaches know the importance of 4 days off.

do you guys get bye week's at your job? you probably have a little vacation but you don't make millions and have off 5 months out of the year either. why can't players families come visit them? it's not like they can't afford to fly them in and put them up.

As a matter of fact, some of us do. Big deal. Is it a crime? I work 6 days a week. My season starts in March I get a "bye week" in the 3rd week of August. By then my voice is pretty tired and needs a break. I then work til mid December and then I get 11-12 weeks off. Except not really. If I want to stay employed I have to spend a lot of those 11 weeks off getting ready for the next season or face hitting the new season with last year's material. I could probably afford to do that once but not more than that.

Likewise I seriously doubt that these guys can do anything but stay on a pretty strict diet and workout regimen and do things like MMA cross-train a la Willis, Spikes during their "5 months off." Otherwise somebody who did more in the offseason mostlikely will be taking their job from them next season.

At some point these NFL players put in more time towards football than the next guy who didn't make it to the NFL. With a few exceptions, that's why they are in the NFL. It amazes me to hear people say how easy they have it because they are "making millions" and just gloss over the hellish work that it took for them to get there and the hellish price they pay to stay their for even a few years. 15-20 year careers are not the norm.

Do you do anything at your job as grueling as training camp? Unless you are fishing or crabbing in the Bering Sea, I doubt it. And it's not like you really know what any of these players' personal lives or financial obligations are like either. I imagine some of these guys are spread pretty thin. I know that's pretty hard to comprehend for some but it's the truth. 5 mill goes pretty quick if enough people can get their hands on it. A lot of these guys come from pretty humble circumstances and thus, are their families only ticket out of poverty.

Sorry to call you out on this Matt but you really don't know much about these guys' lives and what it's like.

If you don't like your job then figure out something you can do that lots of people will pay money to come see, experience or listen to.

When you go home, I bet the last thing you think about is work. These people do not have that luxury. And I doubt the potential for you to get totally jacked for the rest of your life at work is that great either as well.

My 11 year old's football coach was a starting fullback for the St Louis Cards back in the 70's. It takes him a while to get out of his car and hobble to the field. He's in his late 50's and can barely walk. Near as I can tell he's not bitter he seems grateful but he sure as hell payed a heavy toll for his NFL experience. A toll I doubt most will ever have to pay from working at their jobs.

I'll get off my soapbox now but until you walk in another person's shoes.....


didn't say it was a crime buddy all i'm saying is take these in do some extra film study have the offense do some walkthroughs w/crabtree and call it a day. give them 1/2 days or something but we're not in a position to take time off IMO that's all i'm saying. and again i don't care what it does to their body's fact is these guys are getting paid millions. if they do not manager their finances properly and are stretched thin as you seem to think alot of them are then they are complete idiots

i work at a major bank and my boss makes about 175-200K and he lives like a king. 2 houses, several cars, a boat a couple jet skis, pool in his back yard, huge house. he is by no means stretched thin and he has all that with very minimal debt. if you cannot live a great life with millions of dollars then you are an idiot man bottom line.

Funny I make about that much and somehow your #'s don't add up. I am married with 4 boys that eat. I have one car payment of 359.00 on an 08 Acura, a paid for 06 xB and a 98 Escort for the kids to drive. Just unloaded an 08 Odyssey-wife hated it and I didn't need the payment anymore either. I have a 2400.00 mortgage on a 4100 sq ft home. No pool. I have some money tied up in retirement investments. I don't starve but it's not like we can just go to Dillards or Best Buy when ever the hell we want and get whatever the hell we want. We try to go on a vacation once a year and that's about it. My oldest is a senior and starts college next year, I can help him with his tuition but that's about it. He's going to have to figure out the rest of it. I'm not up to my eyeballs in debt either and yet I am quite positive that I don't live like a king.

So either you're exaggerating or he's lining his pockets somewhere cuz the IRS comes and takes about 30-60k of that depending on what he can write off. He's hauling in 14, 500-16,600 gross except his pay is probably restructured at a lower monthly draw subsidized with quarterly bonuses/dividends to reduce payroll taxes yada yada yada so take home is probably closer to 9k per month. He has to have 3-5k in mortgages at least per month on a couple of homes even if he has put good money down on them, insurance on the aforementioned boat, several cars and jet skis, food, DIRECTV, utilities, property taxes, and 3ubtract another 30-50k a year away in a tax deferred SEP to reduce his tax liability. Boy we've really dumbed down prosperity here haven't we?

Try again.

don't respond matt
don't let them go into your head
you have a point, stick with it and don't feel obliged to justify yourself
most of the guys here just think sing makes all the right decision and it cannot be commented or criticized; if nolan was still here you would have the zone all behind you
Go figure ...
PS: wait for a week and a defeat against the texans then put your thread back on : you'll see that most of the guys will say they should have prepared during the bye week. Bets are already open

You guys make a great team. I bet you two could run this team better.
Originally posted by showtime49:
Originally posted by 49Fever:
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by global_nomad:
Originally posted by matt49er:
why do the players have off anyway? rest the ones w/injury and stick them in film study. these players make millions of dollars and they are off several months out of the year. why do they need a week off? we got our butts kick and face a stretch of games we need all the work we can get. This also would have helped us figure out what we're going to do w/the OL and get Crabtree up to speed faster.

We were out played because ATL has faster players, came out hungry, and were prepared after their bye week.

Singletary's experience as a HOF play realizes the importance of a bye week: the only time in a 5 month stretch the players can see extended family and children. The team usually has extra practices early next week to make up for the time they had off.

Saying Singletary is crazy for given them a break is ignorant, he more than most coaches know the importance of 4 days off.

do you guys get bye week's at your job? you probably have a little vacation but you don't make millions and have off 5 months out of the year either. why can't players families come visit them? it's not like they can't afford to fly them in and put them up.

As a matter of fact, some of us do. Big deal. Is it a crime? I work 6 days a week. My season starts in March I get a "bye week" in the 3rd week of August. By then my voice is pretty tired and needs a break. I then work til mid December and then I get 11-12 weeks off. Except not really. If I want to stay employed I have to spend a lot of those 11 weeks off getting ready for the next season or face hitting the new season with last year's material. I could probably afford to do that once but not more than that.

Likewise I seriously doubt that these guys can do anything but stay on a pretty strict diet and workout regimen and do things like MMA cross-train a la Willis, Spikes during their "5 months off." Otherwise somebody who did more in the offseason mostlikely will be taking their job from them next season.

At some point these NFL players put in more time towards football than the next guy who didn't make it to the NFL. With a few exceptions, that's why they are in the NFL. It amazes me to hear people say how easy they have it because they are "making millions" and just gloss over the hellish work that it took for them to get there and the hellish price they pay to stay their for even a few years. 15-20 year careers are not the norm.

Do you do anything at your job as grueling as training camp? Unless you are fishing or crabbing in the Bering Sea, I doubt it. And it's not like you really know what any of these players' personal lives or financial obligations are like either. I imagine some of these guys are spread pretty thin. I know that's pretty hard to comprehend for some but it's the truth. 5 mill goes pretty quick if enough people can get their hands on it. A lot of these guys come from pretty humble circumstances and thus, are their families only ticket out of poverty.

Sorry to call you out on this Matt but you really don't know much about these guys' lives and what it's like.

If you don't like your job then figure out something you can do that lots of people will pay money to come see, experience or listen to.

When you go home, I bet the last thing you think about is work. These people do not have that luxury. And I doubt the potential for you to get totally jacked for the rest of your life at work is that great either as well.

My 11 year old's football coach was a starting fullback for the St Louis Cards back in the 70's. It takes him a while to get out of his car and hobble to the field. He's in his late 50's and can barely walk. Near as I can tell he's not bitter he seems grateful but he sure as hell payed a heavy toll for his NFL experience. A toll I doubt most will ever have to pay from working at their jobs.

I'll get off my soapbox now but until you walk in another person's shoes.....


didn't say it was a crime buddy all i'm saying is take these in do some extra film study have the offense do some walkthroughs w/crabtree and call it a day. give them 1/2 days or something but we're not in a position to take time off IMO that's all i'm saying. and again i don't care what it does to their body's fact is these guys are getting paid millions. if they do not manager their finances properly and are stretched thin as you seem to think alot of them are then they are complete idiots

i work at a major bank and my boss makes about 175-200K and he lives like a king. 2 houses, several cars, a boat a couple jet skis, pool in his back yard, huge house. he is by no means stretched thin and he has all that with very minimal debt. if you cannot live a great life with millions of dollars then you are an idiot man bottom line.

Funny I make about that much and somehow your #'s don't add up. I am married with 4 boys that eat. I have one car payment of 359.00 on an 08 Acura, a paid for 06 xB and a 98 Escort for the kids to drive. Just unloaded an 08 Odyssey-wife hated it and I didn't need the payment anymore either. I have a 2400.00 mortgage on a 4100 sq ft home. No pool. I have some money tied up in retirement investments. I don't starve but it's not like we can just go to Dillards or Best Buy when ever the hell we want and get whatever the hell we want. We try to go on a vacation once a year and that's about it. My oldest is a senior and starts college next year, I can help him with his tuition but that's about it. He's going to have to figure out the rest of it. I'm not up to my eyeballs in debt either and yet I am quite positive that I don't live like a king.

So either you're exaggerating or he's lining his pockets somewhere cuz the IRS comes and takes about 30-60k of that depending on what he can write off. He's hauling in 14, 500-16,600 gross except his pay is probably restructured at a lower monthly draw subsidized with quarterly bonuses/dividends to reduce payroll taxes yada yada yada so take home is probably closer to 9k per month. He has to have 3-5k in mortgages at least per month on a couple of homes even if he has put good money down on them, insurance on the aforementioned boat, several cars and jet skis, food, DIRECTV, utilities, property taxes, and 3ubtract another 30-50k a year away in a tax deferred SEP to reduce his tax liability. Boy we've really dumbed down prosperity here haven't we?

Try again.

don't respond matt
don't let them go into your head
you have a point, stick with it and don't feel obliged to justify yourself
most of the guys here just think sing makes all the right decision and it cannot be commented or criticized; if nolan was still here you would have the zone all behind you
Go figure ...
PS: wait for a week and a defeat against the texans then put your thread back on : you'll see that most of the guys will say they should have prepared during the bye week. Bets are already open

Yeah, let's hope for a loss to the Texans so Matt can prove his point.

Asinine.

you seriously think he's rooting for a loss? his point is everyone would agree with me if we got beat by Houston next week.
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by global_nomad:
Originally posted by matt49er:
why do the players have off anyway? rest the ones w/injury and stick them in film study. these players make millions of dollars and they are off several months out of the year. why do they need a week off? we got our butts kick and face a stretch of games we need all the work we can get. This also would have helped us figure out what we're going to do w/the OL and get Crabtree up to speed faster.

We were out played because ATL has faster players, came out hungry, and were prepared after their bye week.

Singletary's experience as a HOF play realizes the importance of a bye week: the only time in a 5 month stretch the players can see extended family and children. The team usually has extra practices early next week to make up for the time they had off.

Saying Singletary is crazy for given them a break is ignorant, he more than most coaches know the importance of 4 days off.

do you guys get bye week's at your job? you probably have a little vacation but you don't make millions and have off 5 months out of the year either. why can't players families come visit them? it's not like they can't afford to fly them in and put them up.

As a matter of fact, some of us do. Big deal. Is it a crime? I work 6 days a week. My season starts in March I get a "bye week" in the 3rd week of August. By then my voice is pretty tired and needs a break. I then work til mid December and then I get 11-12 weeks off. Except not really. If I want to stay employed I have to spend a lot of those 11 weeks off getting ready for the next season or face hitting the new season with last year's material. I could probably afford to do that once but not more than that.

Likewise I seriously doubt that these guys can do anything but stay on a pretty strict diet and workout regimen and do things like MMA cross-train a la Willis, Spikes during their "5 months off." Otherwise somebody who did more in the offseason mostlikely will be taking their job from them next season.

At some point these NFL players put in more time towards football than the next guy who didn't make it to the NFL. With a few exceptions, that's why they are in the NFL. It amazes me to hear people say how easy they have it because they are "making millions" and just gloss over the hellish work that it took for them to get there and the hellish price they pay to stay their for even a few years. 15-20 year careers are not the norm.

Do you do anything at your job as grueling as training camp? Unless you are fishing or crabbing in the Bering Sea, I doubt it. And it's not like you really know what any of these players' personal lives or financial obligations are like either. I imagine some of these guys are spread pretty thin. I know that's pretty hard to comprehend for some but it's the truth. 5 mill goes pretty quick if enough people can get their hands on it. A lot of these guys come from pretty humble circumstances and thus, are their families only ticket out of poverty.

Sorry to call you out on this Matt but you really don't know much about these guys' lives and what it's like.

If you don't like your job then figure out something you can do that lots of people will pay money to come see, experience or listen to.

When you go home, I bet the last thing you think about is work. These people do not have that luxury. And I doubt the potential for you to get totally jacked for the rest of your life at work is that great either as well.

My 11 year old's football coach was a starting fullback for the St Louis Cards back in the 70's. It takes him a while to get out of his car and hobble to the field. He's in his late 50's and can barely walk. Near as I can tell he's not bitter he seems grateful but he sure as hell payed a heavy toll for his NFL experience. A toll I doubt most will ever have to pay from working at their jobs.

I'll get off my soapbox now but until you walk in another person's shoes.....


didn't say it was a crime buddy all i'm saying is take these in do some extra film study have the offense do some walkthroughs w/crabtree and call it a day. give them 1/2 days or something but we're not in a position to take time off IMO that's all i'm saying. and again i don't care what it does to their body's fact is these guys are getting paid millions. if they do not manager their finances properly and are stretched thin as you seem to think alot of them are then they are complete idiots

i work at a major bank and my boss makes about 175-200K and he lives like a king. 2 houses, several cars, a boat a couple jet skis, pool in his back yard, huge house. he is by no means stretched thin and he has all that with very minimal debt. if you cannot live a great life with millions of dollars then you are an idiot man bottom line.

Funny I make about that much and somehow your #'s don't add up. I am married with 4 boys that eat. I have one car payment of 359.00 on an 08 Acura, a paid for 06 xB and a 98 Escort for the kids to drive. Just unloaded an 08 Odyssey-wife hated it and I didn't need the payment anymore either. I have a 2400.00 mortgage on a 4100 sq ft home. No pool. I have some money tied up in retirement investments. I don't starve but it's not like we can just go to Dillards or Best Buy when ever the hell we want and get whatever the hell we want. We try to go on a vacation once a year and that's about it. My oldest is a senior and starts college next year, I can help him with his tuition but that's about it. He's going to have to figure out the rest of it. I'm not up to my eyeballs in debt either and yet I am quite positive that I don't live like a king.

So either you're exaggerating or he's lining his pockets somewhere cuz the IRS comes and takes about 30-60k of that depending on what he can write off. He's hauling in 14, 500-16,600 gross except his pay is probably restructured at a lower monthly draw subsidized with quarterly bonuses/dividends to reduce payroll taxes yada yada yada so take home is probably closer to 9k per month. He has to have 3-5k in mortgages at least per month on a couple of homes even if he has put good money down on them, insurance on the aforementioned boat, several cars and jet skis, food, DIRECTV, utilities, property taxes, and 3ubtract another 30-50k a year away in a tax deferred SEP to reduce his tax liability. Boy we've really dumbed down prosperity here haven't we?

Try again.

no dick the guy is like 50 years old and has been an executive for 20 years. I have personally seen his properties and have no reason to fabricate anything. His wife works as well and they have 2 children who are grown and out of the house. how is it unreasonable to think you can own 2 homes in Delaware 10 years ago for about 200K some cars and a boat? 1 big salary and another mediocore salary from his wife and they are doing very well is all i'm saying. i myself make about 65K and live a great life. my point is these jerk offs get millions of dollars anyway you slice it to play some football what 7 months out of the year. make them work those 7 months work as hard as they have to, to ensure a winning product.

A lot of anger between you two. A little too much anger...


what a homo comment

Name is not Richard but I guess you knew that. I guess you're simply too immature to restrain yourself from name calling. Oh well, I'm sure you're less abrasive in person.

10 years ago I bought an 1851 sq ft home in AZ with pool for 162k. I doubt property was any cheaper in Delaware than it was in Gilbert, AZ-an average community 10 years ago. I'm just sayin your numbers seem a little screwy. I just doubt he makes as little as you think he does. Get it? Not to disparage your income but 65k does not buy a great life. Come to think of it no amount of money can do that but I digress.

my point is these jerk offs get millions of dollars anyway you slice it to play some football what 7 months out of the year. make them work those 7 months work as hard as they have to, to ensure a winning product.

That's kinda ridiculous don't you think. Particularly the 1st sentence. These guys are jerkoffs why? Because they play football? (Why are you a fan again?) Is it the money "any way you slice it" that they obviously don't deserve that so bothers you? If and when you ever move up a few tax brackets you'll figure it out hopefully and lose the non-productive class envy our Nobel prize winning Messiah and other poverty pimps in DC love to engender.

And for the love of of God, they do not just work 7 months a year and live the life of ease for 5. Any NFL player who does not have a rigorous offseason regimen is not going to be playing NFL football for long. What is it about that concept that is so difficult to understand? in truth most of them truly take off about what most americans take off per year-a couple of weeks.

Many of the vets who've been around reported that Singletary was their hardest camp ever. I think we can all agree that Camp Nolan was a little on the wussy side. It's not that way anymore. In fact, Singletary started catching flak for having too grueling of a camp.

Whatever. You're welcome to disparage the players of a team that you profess to be a fan of and resent them because of the money they make but it doesn't make a lot of sense.





The picture was hilarious BTW.

In no way do I resent the players due to the money they make. I have reservations about the bye week. I am not stupid man I get the fact that these guys have to work out, watch diet, watch film in the offseason but the point is they are off and can go on vacation at will, get up whenever they want, they have freedom of not having to be somewhere at a specific time.
I realize camp singletary was tough but isn't that what brought this team together? I'm not saying kick their asses all over again I'm saying get back to basics, watch a ton of film on the next opponet, break down every game the 9ers have played thus far. Do some extra offensive walkthroughs for the benefit of not only Crabtree but B.Jones who just returned from injury and Gore who is coming back.
The fact that you are continuing the argument over what people can own on what salary is extremely lame man. The point I'm trying to make is human beings can live and support a family on WAY LESS than the players make and most of us work year around, again I understand the offseason the players do things to prepare for next season but they do not go to work everyday is my point.
I'm done
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by global_nomad:
Originally posted by matt49er:
why do the players have off anyway? rest the ones w/injury and stick them in film study. these players make millions of dollars and they are off several months out of the year. why do they need a week off? we got our butts kick and face a stretch of games we need all the work we can get. This also would have helped us figure out what we're going to do w/the OL and get Crabtree up to speed faster.

We were out played because ATL has faster players, came out hungry, and were prepared after their bye week.

Singletary's experience as a HOF play realizes the importance of a bye week: the only time in a 5 month stretch the players can see extended family and children. The team usually has extra practices early next week to make up for the time they had off.

Saying Singletary is crazy for given them a break is ignorant, he more than most coaches know the importance of 4 days off.

do you guys get bye week's at your job? you probably have a little vacation but you don't make millions and have off 5 months out of the year either. why can't players families come visit them? it's not like they can't afford to fly them in and put them up.

As a matter of fact, some of us do. Big deal. Is it a crime? I work 6 days a week. My season starts in March I get a "bye week" in the 3rd week of August. By then my voice is pretty tired and needs a break. I then work til mid December and then I get 11-12 weeks off. Except not really. If I want to stay employed I have to spend a lot of those 11 weeks off getting ready for the next season or face hitting the new season with last year's material. I could probably afford to do that once but not more than that.

Likewise I seriously doubt that these guys can do anything but stay on a pretty strict diet and workout regimen and do things like MMA cross-train a la Willis, Spikes during their "5 months off." Otherwise somebody who did more in the offseason mostlikely will be taking their job from them next season.

At some point these NFL players put in more time towards football than the next guy who didn't make it to the NFL. With a few exceptions, that's why they are in the NFL. It amazes me to hear people say how easy they have it because they are "making millions" and just gloss over the hellish work that it took for them to get there and the hellish price they pay to stay their for even a few years. 15-20 year careers are not the norm.

Do you do anything at your job as grueling as training camp? Unless you are fishing or crabbing in the Bering Sea, I doubt it. And it's not like you really know what any of these players' personal lives or financial obligations are like either. I imagine some of these guys are spread pretty thin. I know that's pretty hard to comprehend for some but it's the truth. 5 mill goes pretty quick if enough people can get their hands on it. A lot of these guys come from pretty humble circumstances and thus, are their families only ticket out of poverty.

Sorry to call you out on this Matt but you really don't know much about these guys' lives and what it's like.

If you don't like your job then figure out something you can do that lots of people will pay money to come see, experience or listen to.

When you go home, I bet the last thing you think about is work. These people do not have that luxury. And I doubt the potential for you to get totally jacked for the rest of your life at work is that great either as well.

My 11 year old's football coach was a starting fullback for the St Louis Cards back in the 70's. It takes him a while to get out of his car and hobble to the field. He's in his late 50's and can barely walk. Near as I can tell he's not bitter he seems grateful but he sure as hell payed a heavy toll for his NFL experience. A toll I doubt most will ever have to pay from working at their jobs.

I'll get off my soapbox now but until you walk in another person's shoes.....


didn't say it was a crime buddy all i'm saying is take these in do some extra film study have the offense do some walkthroughs w/crabtree and call it a day. give them 1/2 days or something but we're not in a position to take time off IMO that's all i'm saying. and again i don't care what it does to their body's fact is these guys are getting paid millions. if they do not manager their finances properly and are stretched thin as you seem to think alot of them are then they are complete idiots

i work at a major bank and my boss makes about 175-200K and he lives like a king. 2 houses, several cars, a boat a couple jet skis, pool in his back yard, huge house. he is by no means stretched thin and he has all that with very minimal debt. if you cannot live a great life with millions of dollars then you are an idiot man bottom line.

Funny I make about that much and somehow your #'s don't add up. I am married with 4 boys that eat. I have one car payment of 359.00 on an 08 Acura, a paid for 06 xB and a 98 Escort for the kids to drive. Just unloaded an 08 Odyssey-wife hated it and I didn't need the payment anymore either. I have a 2400.00 mortgage on a 4100 sq ft home. No pool. I have some money tied up in retirement investments. I don't starve but it's not like we can just go to Dillards or Best Buy when ever the hell we want and get whatever the hell we want. We try to go on a vacation once a year and that's about it. My oldest is a senior and starts college next year, I can help him with his tuition but that's about it. He's going to have to figure out the rest of it. I'm not up to my eyeballs in debt either and yet I am quite positive that I don't live like a king.

So either you're exaggerating or he's lining his pockets somewhere cuz the IRS comes and takes about 30-60k of that depending on what he can write off. He's hauling in 14, 500-16,600 gross except his pay is probably restructured at a lower monthly draw subsidized with quarterly bonuses/dividends to reduce payroll taxes yada yada yada so take home is probably closer to 9k per month. He has to have 3-5k in mortgages at least per month on a couple of homes even if he has put good money down on them, insurance on the aforementioned boat, several cars and jet skis, food, DIRECTV, utilities, property taxes, and 3ubtract another 30-50k a year away in a tax deferred SEP to reduce his tax liability. Boy we've really dumbed down prosperity here haven't we?

Try again.

SLOW DOWN PROFESSOR!!!
[ Edited by chico49erfan on Oct 18, 2009 at 1:59 PM ]
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Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by global_nomad:
Originally posted by matt49er:
why do the players have off anyway? rest the ones w/injury and stick them in film study. these players make millions of dollars and they are off several months out of the year. why do they need a week off? we got our butts kick and face a stretch of games we need all the work we can get. This also would have helped us figure out what we're going to do w/the OL and get Crabtree up to speed faster.

We were out played because ATL has faster players, came out hungry, and were prepared after their bye week.

Singletary's experience as a HOF play realizes the importance of a bye week: the only time in a 5 month stretch the players can see extended family and children. The team usually has extra practices early next week to make up for the time they had off.

Saying Singletary is crazy for given them a break is ignorant, he more than most coaches know the importance of 4 days off.

do you guys get bye week's at your job? you probably have a little vacation but you don't make millions and have off 5 months out of the year either. why can't players families come visit them? it's not like they can't afford to fly them in and put them up.

As a matter of fact, some of us do. Big deal. Is it a crime? I work 6 days a week. My season starts in March I get a "bye week" in the 3rd week of August. By then my voice is pretty tired and needs a break. I then work til mid December and then I get 11-12 weeks off. Except not really. If I want to stay employed I have to spend a lot of those 11 weeks off getting ready for the next season or face hitting the new season with last year's material. I could probably afford to do that once but not more than that.

Likewise I seriously doubt that these guys can do anything but stay on a pretty strict diet and workout regimen and do things like MMA cross-train a la Willis, Spikes during their "5 months off." Otherwise somebody who did more in the offseason mostlikely will be taking their job from them next season.

At some point these NFL players put in more time towards football than the next guy who didn't make it to the NFL. With a few exceptions, that's why they are in the NFL. It amazes me to hear people say how easy they have it because they are "making millions" and just gloss over the hellish work that it took for them to get there and the hellish price they pay to stay their for even a few years. 15-20 year careers are not the norm.

Do you do anything at your job as grueling as training camp? Unless you are fishing or crabbing in the Bering Sea, I doubt it. And it's not like you really know what any of these players' personal lives or financial obligations are like either. I imagine some of these guys are spread pretty thin. I know that's pretty hard to comprehend for some but it's the truth. 5 mill goes pretty quick if enough people can get their hands on it. A lot of these guys come from pretty humble circumstances and thus, are their families only ticket out of poverty.

Sorry to call you out on this Matt but you really don't know much about these guys' lives and what it's like.

If you don't like your job then figure out something you can do that lots of people will pay money to come see, experience or listen to.

When you go home, I bet the last thing you think about is work. These people do not have that luxury. And I doubt the potential for you to get totally jacked for the rest of your life at work is that great either as well.

My 11 year old's football coach was a starting fullback for the St Louis Cards back in the 70's. It takes him a while to get out of his car and hobble to the field. He's in his late 50's and can barely walk. Near as I can tell he's not bitter he seems grateful but he sure as hell payed a heavy toll for his NFL experience. A toll I doubt most will ever have to pay from working at their jobs.

I'll get off my soapbox now but until you walk in another person's shoes.....


didn't say it was a crime buddy all i'm saying is take these in do some extra film study have the offense do some walkthroughs w/crabtree and call it a day. give them 1/2 days or something but we're not in a position to take time off IMO that's all i'm saying. and again i don't care what it does to their body's fact is these guys are getting paid millions. if they do not manager their finances properly and are stretched thin as you seem to think alot of them are then they are complete idiots

i work at a major bank and my boss makes about 175-200K and he lives like a king. 2 houses, several cars, a boat a couple jet skis, pool in his back yard, huge house. he is by no means stretched thin and he has all that with very minimal debt. if you cannot live a great life with millions of dollars then you are an idiot man bottom line.

Funny I make about that much and somehow your #'s don't add up. I am married with 4 boys that eat. I have one car payment of 359.00 on an 08 Acura, a paid for 06 xB and a 98 Escort for the kids to drive. Just unloaded an 08 Odyssey-wife hated it and I didn't need the payment anymore either. I have a 2400.00 mortgage on a 4100 sq ft home. No pool. I have some money tied up in retirement investments. I don't starve but it's not like we can just go to Dillards or Best Buy when ever the hell we want and get whatever the hell we want. We try to go on a vacation once a year and that's about it. My oldest is a senior and starts college next year, I can help him with his tuition but that's about it. He's going to have to figure out the rest of it. I'm not up to my eyeballs in debt either and yet I am quite positive that I don't live like a king.

So either you're exaggerating or he's lining his pockets somewhere cuz the IRS comes and takes about 30-60k of that depending on what he can write off. He's hauling in 14, 500-16,600 gross except his pay is probably restructured at a lower monthly draw subsidized with quarterly bonuses/dividends to reduce payroll taxes yada yada yada so take home is probably closer to 9k per month. He has to have 3-5k in mortgages at least per month on a couple of homes even if he has put good money down on them, insurance on the aforementioned boat, several cars and jet skis, food, DIRECTV, utilities, property taxes, and 3ubtract another 30-50k a year away in a tax deferred SEP to reduce his tax liability. Boy we've really dumbed down prosperity here haven't we?

Try again.

SLOW DOWN PROFESSOR!!!

Don't have 4 kids then.
Originally posted by B650:
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by global_nomad:
Originally posted by matt49er:
why do the players have off anyway? rest the ones w/injury and stick them in film study. these players make millions of dollars and they are off several months out of the year. why do they need a week off? we got our butts kick and face a stretch of games we need all the work we can get. This also would have helped us figure out what we're going to do w/the OL and get Crabtree up to speed faster.

We were out played because ATL has faster players, came out hungry, and were prepared after their bye week.

Singletary's experience as a HOF play realizes the importance of a bye week: the only time in a 5 month stretch the players can see extended family and children. The team usually has extra practices early next week to make up for the time they had off.

Saying Singletary is crazy for given them a break is ignorant, he more than most coaches know the importance of 4 days off.

do you guys get bye week's at your job? you probably have a little vacation but you don't make millions and have off 5 months out of the year either. why can't players families come visit them? it's not like they can't afford to fly them in and put them up.

As a matter of fact, some of us do. Big deal. Is it a crime? I work 6 days a week. My season starts in March I get a "bye week" in the 3rd week of August. By then my voice is pretty tired and needs a break. I then work til mid December and then I get 11-12 weeks off. Except not really. If I want to stay employed I have to spend a lot of those 11 weeks off getting ready for the next season or face hitting the new season with last year's material. I could probably afford to do that once but not more than that.

Likewise I seriously doubt that these guys can do anything but stay on a pretty strict diet and workout regimen and do things like MMA cross-train a la Willis, Spikes during their "5 months off." Otherwise somebody who did more in the offseason mostlikely will be taking their job from them next season.

At some point these NFL players put in more time towards football than the next guy who didn't make it to the NFL. With a few exceptions, that's why they are in the NFL. It amazes me to hear people say how easy they have it because they are "making millions" and just gloss over the hellish work that it took for them to get there and the hellish price they pay to stay their for even a few years. 15-20 year careers are not the norm.

Do you do anything at your job as grueling as training camp? Unless you are fishing or crabbing in the Bering Sea, I doubt it. And it's not like you really know what any of these players' personal lives or financial obligations are like either. I imagine some of these guys are spread pretty thin. I know that's pretty hard to comprehend for some but it's the truth. 5 mill goes pretty quick if enough people can get their hands on it. A lot of these guys come from pretty humble circumstances and thus, are their families only ticket out of poverty.

Sorry to call you out on this Matt but you really don't know much about these guys' lives and what it's like.

If you don't like your job then figure out something you can do that lots of people will pay money to come see, experience or listen to.

When you go home, I bet the last thing you think about is work. These people do not have that luxury. And I doubt the potential for you to get totally jacked for the rest of your life at work is that great either as well.

My 11 year old's football coach was a starting fullback for the St Louis Cards back in the 70's. It takes him a while to get out of his car and hobble to the field. He's in his late 50's and can barely walk. Near as I can tell he's not bitter he seems grateful but he sure as hell payed a heavy toll for his NFL experience. A toll I doubt most will ever have to pay from working at their jobs.

I'll get off my soapbox now but until you walk in another person's shoes.....


didn't say it was a crime buddy all i'm saying is take these in do some extra film study have the offense do some walkthroughs w/crabtree and call it a day. give them 1/2 days or something but we're not in a position to take time off IMO that's all i'm saying. and again i don't care what it does to their body's fact is these guys are getting paid millions. if they do not manager their finances properly and are stretched thin as you seem to think alot of them are then they are complete idiots

i work at a major bank and my boss makes about 175-200K and he lives like a king. 2 houses, several cars, a boat a couple jet skis, pool in his back yard, huge house. he is by no means stretched thin and he has all that with very minimal debt. if you cannot live a great life with millions of dollars then you are an idiot man bottom line.

Funny I make about that much and somehow your #'s don't add up. I am married with 4 boys that eat. I have one car payment of 359.00 on an 08 Acura, a paid for 06 xB and a 98 Escort for the kids to drive. Just unloaded an 08 Odyssey-wife hated it and I didn't need the payment anymore either. I have a 2400.00 mortgage on a 4100 sq ft home. No pool. I have some money tied up in retirement investments. I don't starve but it's not like we can just go to Dillards or Best Buy when ever the hell we want and get whatever the hell we want. We try to go on a vacation once a year and that's about it. My oldest is a senior and starts college next year, I can help him with his tuition but that's about it. He's going to have to figure out the rest of it. I'm not up to my eyeballs in debt either and yet I am quite positive that I don't live like a king.

So either you're exaggerating or he's lining his pockets somewhere cuz the IRS comes and takes about 30-60k of that depending on what he can write off. He's hauling in 14, 500-16,600 gross except his pay is probably restructured at a lower monthly draw subsidized with quarterly bonuses/dividends to reduce payroll taxes yada yada yada so take home is probably closer to 9k per month. He has to have 3-5k in mortgages at least per month on a couple of homes even if he has put good money down on them, insurance on the aforementioned boat, several cars and jet skis, food, DIRECTV, utilities, property taxes, and 3ubtract another 30-50k a year away in a tax deferred SEP to reduce his tax liability. Boy we've really dumbed down prosperity here haven't we?

Try again.

SLOW DOWN PROFESSOR!!!

Don't have 4 kids then.

im just kidding man relax. i am just amazed you literally told everyone the breakdown of your financial life.

and trust me, 2 kids will be enough. ill be living like a king with ten cars, two boats, and a 50809348503 acre house with 4 pools (2 indoor) with my 175K-200K salary.
I LIKE WHERE THIS THREAD IS GOING
being too much of a hard ass can cost Sing the locker room. Once that starts happening, it's a very steep downward spiral.
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
being too much of a hard ass can cost Sing the locker room. Once that starts happening, it's a very steep downward spiral.

Wow he should hire you as his consultant since you know more about an NFL locker room than he does
Originally posted by RichmondPete:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
being too much of a hard ass can cost Sing the locker room. Once that starts happening, it's a very steep downward spiral.

Wow he should hire you as his consultant since you know more about an NFL locker room than he does

you're god damned right Pedro.
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