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Nate will never be a starting Qb in the NFL. Can you say developmental player.
Actually, Nate might have trouble saying those words.
I hope he ends up being great, but I'm not hopeful. I mean, if he ends up being our starter, what will we do to accommodate him? Pare down the playbook and strip it of all compound words so he can comprehend it?
Dude is also small. Some great players can overcome that, but I have seen nothing yet to suggest that he can.
And the laces . . . so strange.
Small?? 6'1" and 226lbs isnt that small !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
for a qb it is
Tom Brady is 6 foot 4 in
Peyton Manning 6 foot 5 in
Carson Palmer 6 foot 5 in
Eli Manning 6 foot 4 in
Ben Roethlisraper 6 foot 5 in
Joe Montana 6 foot 2
Steve Young 6 foot 2
Drew Brees 6 foot
Aaron Rodgers 6 foot 2
See...I can do that too.
BTW....I put this together for another thread about a month ago...
see all those guys are all taller except for Drew Brees, so thanks for helping me make my point
....by 1/2 an inch.
Wow. I see your point.
last i checked the difference between 6 foot 1 and 6 foot 2 is 1 inch
and dont tell me 1 inch dont make a difference because my wife says other wise
Seriously tho...Davis actually measured in at 6'1" and 1/2 at the combine (and I can't believe we are arguing about half an inch).
Height is WAY over-rated. NFL QBs don't see over their linemen...they see and throw through passing lanes.
Davis stands tall in the pocket, has a big arm, a quick release, and and over the shoulder delivery. Any questions about his height being a problem should be answered in the preseasion when he TWICE made BIG throws with pressure in his face...one against the Cowboys to Spurlock and another against the Chargers to Hill for a TD.
If you don't like the guy, thats all good, but don't tell me he's too small. Thats simply not true.
Height won't be an issue.
Hell, Hill is 6'3" and I'll bet Davis has a higher launch point.
Height is OBVIOUSLY an asset for QBs. Why do you think Doug Flutie failed as an NFL QB?
Is Davis prohibitively short? No. But would he be a safer bet with 3 more inches in height? Yes, definitely.
But height was sorta secondary to my main point about his learning disability.
If Nate has what it takes to be great he will be just that, being 1/2 inch shorter is not going to stop him from doing that. If he sucks it's not going to be because of 1/2 inch so please stop with that nonsense.
You're not understanding.
Nate Davis has done dick in the NFL. And we're being asked, "will he eventually be great?" What do you suggest we look at in assessing his potential?
And 1/2 inch is not the issue. All those guys who have been great at 6'2" have been fantastic talents. But, all things equal, at 6'5" QB is better than a 6'2" QB. Likewise, a 6'2" QB is better than a 6'1" QB.
Yes IMO we shouldn't be all obsessed over Nate because he hasn't done s**t, I remember people were going ape s**t over Sullivan and we know how that turned out. Of course we all want him to be great and whatnot, obviously if he were taller it would be better but 1/2 inch is NOT going to be the reason he's going to suck, he either has what it takes or doesn't. Simple as that...
It's not height, it's the release point that matters. A 6'5 QB can't see over a 6'8 tackle any better than a 6'2 QB. The reason why height is emphasized is because the majority of QB's throw the ball with their arm at a 45 degree angle. Drew Brees throws at almost a 90 degree angle with a high release point, so he is basically throwing the ball like the average 6'4/6'5 QB. Tall QB's with low release points arent successful either, ie: Vince Young is 6'5 and almost throws side arm.
High release point = less tipped passes as well as quick short/medium passes being thrown at a downward angle which is safer and the ball is less likely to float. It puts receivers in a safer position to make the catch. Listen to any ex-QB analyze a throwing motion and they will stress the fundamentals of having a high release point rather than being tall.
[ Edited by 5280High on Oct 15, 2009 at 11:15:04 ]