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Preseason Pass Rush Revival Thread

  • carl
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Post here to officially get over it.
I'll be over it when i see a pass rush for more than one game I'm not that that wishy washy with my opinions. And it was more than pre season it was last season also and the problem went into pre season
[ Edited by lamontb on Sep 16, 2009 at 7:33 AM ]
Originally posted by lamontb:
I'll be over it when i see a pass rush for more than one game I'm not that that wishy washy with my opinions. And it was more than pre season it was last season also and the problem went into pre season

Agreed! And let's be honest, Warner is a statue and our secondary, once again, played lights out allowing sufficient time for our front 7 to get there. Even with that said and as poorly as the Cardinals played, Warner still had PLENTY of time to sit back there and deliver...dropped passes, indecision, etc.

It was encouraging that we at least had semblence of "pressure" esp. from Haralson & Smith and even McDonald. I also liked the rotation they were using and the d-line seemed to play well together relying mostly on stunts.

I'd STILL like us to see more of a pure 3-4 where the OLB's are moved around a lot pre-snap at the LOS looking to shoot gaps (esp. for Manny). I'd also like to see us utilize Willis AND Spikes more on the inside blitz instead of constantly relying on Manny's one speed-rush move to the outside. The Cards were run-bliltzing their middle LB AND safeties up the gut all day which also opened up the outside rush.

We're still a long ways from being a true 3-4 but at least for one game we showed some continuity, won some one-on-one battles and got some pressure/sacks that were meaningful (stopped gains, caused fumbles, etc.) and THAT is what a 3-4 is supposed to do.

But the front 7 REALLY needs to thank the secondary. Hopefully some day, the secondary will be able to thank the front 7!
How I was reading the various articles is that both ends were appreciative of the efforts of the other end - DBs were happy with the front 7 and vice versa. I was happy that Haralson was able to get pressure and so was Smith. Lots of reports of Lawson getting pressure so that they at least had to take him into account. Sop and Franklin were apparently getting some pressure up the middle. I think it would be interesting to see Spikes and Willis get a pass rush occasionally so that the oline at least has to think about things and not just key in on Harolson, Smith, and Lawson. An occasional DB blitz would be helpful as well. But happy for all the pressure they brought. Now lets see if they can develop it for Seattle. We will need a lot of pressure to get to Hasselbeck.
I wouldn't say it's a revival. It's pending as of right now but so far so good. That Pass Rush Specialist we hired made some of his money worth for our first game. Let's wait for the rest.
We have a pass rush, we had one last year after we simplified the scheme. It will only get better, Haralson is going to be a handful for whomever he lines up against. Blamer, Franklin and Soap were all getting double teamed at points in the game, and we have a solid secondary.
  • Twister68
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How stupid it is to make conclusions after pre-season? Very stupid. The Lions should be the hottest favorite to win the big one if pre-seasons count. But they don't. When will all these WZ "analysts" learn that?
Hopefully this defense continues to get pressure in the coming weeks if we are gonna keep winning! I'm sure we will us more exotic blitzes & different things as this defense continues to grow & gel.
Originally posted by tohara3:
Hopefully this defense continues to get pressure in the coming weeks if we are gonna keep winning! I'm sure we will us more exotic blitzes & different things as this defense continues to grow & gel.

The one time that we tried an 'exotic' blitz with Clements on a CB blitz, it backfired last week...

-9fA
One good game does not make a revival, but at least we know that there's a pulse. Let's see how they do this Sunday against the Seahawks - I'm really hopeful.
I think the best thing that I saw about this "pass rush revival" is that we harassed Warner with minimal blitzing....Smith and Haralson just consistently beat their guys...


Seahawks don't have much to look at as far as Niner defensive scheming.
  • Antix
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Yeah, I'm not a member of the reactionary majority of the board.

If we are all over the Hawks then I'll begin to believe in our pass rush. We need consistency, every Sunday, game in and game out. I do believe it's better, but I'm curious as to how much better.

But I will say this though, the last time we were able to get a pass rush with just four guys as consistently as we did on Sunday we were in the playoffs.
It's better to be reactionary during the regular season (e.g. praising the pass rush), than to be reactionary during the preseason (flipping out over it).

Looks like many in this thread are option 2.
the sack is mightier than the sword
Haralson has REALLY stepped up his game and is now a legit threat off the edge. He made Levi Brown look downright stupid on a few plays...