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Offensive post-game analysis (Week 1)

  • dmax
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Look jimmy raye had some bad play calling yes...But everything starts up front..How can gore get going if carlos dansby is camping in the backfield the entire game. We need to shore up that oline right now[/indent]
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Originally posted by P-52ENFORCER:
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by P-52ENFORCER:
f**k all the Hill haters. Like I said earlier, let Hill throw the ball and we'll be fine. GO NINERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol Hill sucks the whole game, comes thru on one series and now he's a word beater?

HE WON THE GAME DUDE. GET OVER IT, AND RELISH IT!

Where did I hear that before??


Right, 1st week of 2007.

Except for the fact that Hill actually had good numbers today. In 07 Week 1, Smith did not.

Be happy once in awhile.
Originally posted by Nuns:

Lol Hill sucks the whole game, comes thru on one series and now he's a word beater?
Hill did not suck the whole game. He is a winner, and improved his record as a starting qb. He threw a nice long ball and did it all with almost no running game.

He just beat the reigning NFC champions in their own backyard.


..........and so-called niniers fans are still hating on him. Go figure!
Originally posted by dmax:
Look jimmy raye had some bad play calling yes...But everything starts up front..How can gore get going if carlos dansby is camping in the backfield the entire game. We need to shore up that oline right now[/indent]

They satcked up the box because they knew we were going to run.

And they blitzed when they knew we were going to pass.

Really, it was just me or wasn't everyone here able to GUESS exactly when we were going to run and when we were going to pass?
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
FACT: Shaun Hill did not throw a single interception in this game, nor did he make a crappy throw that came even close to an INT, things looked horrible, but as usual they came together, and Shaun is the only starting QB in the NFC West this week that hasn't thrown an interception.

actually he did make some crappy throws that should of been untercepted the pass down the seam to Bruce(?) comes to mind.
  • trellblaze1
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Originally posted by diehard68:
Originally posted by trellblaze1:
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Originally posted by trellblaze1:
Originally posted by kstolai:
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Raye is a joke. He is not an OC. He is a joke.






Pure and simple.

I think it's funny that people believe that any OC would have success with no blocking. Especially one who's plays are completely dependent on timing.

Ray may not indeed be a good OC, but that's not what was evident today. Anytime the opposing DLine is paying rent in your backfield your offense is going to look bad...

Did you notice how the pass protection improved on our TD drive? That's because we spread the field! The playcalling was responsible for a great part of the o-line struggle.

I think the Cards D had lost a little steam nearing the end of that drive.

Don't get me wrong...i don't care for the playcalling either but it's not the biggest of my worries.

Baas might as well have been grass today. Rachal wasn't far behind except for a few good plays...

I'm not concerned with the play calling on the big drive when they scored... they drove, kept their defense on the field, kept making first downs and scored. That's the kind of drive we gotta see. I'm more concerned about the playcalling on the last two possessions when it was absoultely critical to keep possession and maintain a drive.

THREE RUNS UP THE MIDDLE??!! FROM THE 3??!! How uninspired is that? I hate it when you work so hard to get a lead and then become ridiculously conservative when yo try to keep it. And then with 3 mins left we needed to keep the ball in our possession... one first down is all we needed. and what, THREE RUNS UP THE MIDDLE AGAIN!!?? We damn near gave them a chance to take the game away from us.

We need to learn to get aggressive when we have a lead and go for the juggular. Don't give teams a chance to get back into it.

I see where you're coming from concerning the last drive but I my head keeps going back to the talent level. How creative can you get with these guys? With the exception of a couple of proven vets and a few youngsters with potential, these guys are NOT THAT GOOD. Three runs up the middle seems bad...until you get a sack inside your own 20 trying to pass....or throw an interception. Based on the 1st three quarters, these things were very likely to happen.
I dont know what everyone is so up in arms about. We actually looked like an NFL offense for 1 series this game.
Originally posted by joey82:
I don't know why I am bothering....


Look we haven't had a top 15 offense in half a decade. We weren't a top offense last year nor have we done anything this off season to reasonably believe that we would be a top offense again.

This is what we are going to do. Run the ball, not turn the ball over, avoid giving up the big play and win the game with our defense and special teams. If you don't like that I suggest following another team this season.

This isn't an offense that is going to score 35 points, and you are foolish if you expect that. If our offense doesn't turn the ball over and gives us 17-24 points a game we are going to be in good shape to win a lot of games this year.

We beat a team that went to the superbowl last year in their own house.

So relax and enjoy the win fellas. Stop being unreasonable expecting us to light up the scoreboard every week like the saints because it isn't happening.






People need to read this post and then read it three more times.
  • Kolohe
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So just wondering can we now squash all the "Hill hasn't beaten anyone yet" talk??
  • mayo49
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It's the first game of the season with all the starters playing together the whole game. You guys need to chill and let the team mesh and come together as a group. At least we're not getting blown out anymore.
I assume it would be safe to say that our o-linemen got owned during the nutcracker drill during camp. Those 5 sloths should have to run the hill all day Tuesday. While I am at my fantasy Jimmy Raye should run the hill with them but everytime hecomes back down he should get decleated by Willis so he will remember what he put Gore through. A guy can dream can't he.
Originally posted by btak49:
Baas may not be the answer at LG. He was getting his butt whooped!

It may be that he's alittle rusty?
  • fan49
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any way u look at it its not rayes fault, the line did play garbage. but also hills arm was not threatning at all so they just went out and tried to shut down gore. and they did. hill will hurt us later in the season due to his arm period.
Originally posted by solidg2000:
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
FACT: Shaun Hill did not throw a single interception in this game, nor did he make a crappy throw that came even close to an INT, things looked horrible, but as usual they came together, and Shaun is the only starting QB in the NFC West this week that hasn't thrown an interception.

did you watch the game???
there was 3 passes that hit the defenders hands and they dropped it
...

Yeah, Shaun wasn't exactly "great" today but he did enough and got lucky with Arizona droppin a couple of should be picks...regardless, he missed quite a few open targets and made some not so wise throws but at the end of the day, he did what we needed him to do, win the damn game.
Originally posted by jones49:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by maximill15:
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Originally posted by trellblaze1:
Originally posted by kstolai:
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Raye is a joke. He is not an OC. He is a joke.






Pure and simple.

I think it's funny that people believe that any OC would have success with no blocking. Especially one who's plays are completely dependent on timing.

Ray may not indeed be a good OC, but that's not what was evident today. Anytime the opposing DLine is paying rent in your backfield your offense is going to look bad...

Did you notice how the pass protection improved on our TD drive? That's because we spread the field! The playcalling was responsible for a great part of the o-line struggle.

The oline was responsible for the bad oline play. Raye only calls the plays, he cannot get out there and execute it for them.

There a lot more involved than just execution. When you line up in the I, the guys are gonna stack the box and it will be harder to block.

yeah it is all raye fault if he fails to make adjustments! If the D is getting constant pressure( which they did), then your start calling plays to get hill on the move or get frank running outside, which Raye failed to do! Yeha we won, yeha I'm happy, but this wont fly!!!

Its painfully obvious....Raye might know football, but he doesn't know play calling. Take that to the bank.

Yep. Sometimes you have to know when to fold em'. Our running game wasn't working and the dedication to the running game almost cost us. Raye and Sing need to learn that.




I don't think they were overdedicated to the run. They were just attempting to establish the run and get some kind of rythm. The only time I thought that we were overly dedicated to the run was at the end of the game when we were pushed back on our 2 yard-line and we ran the three run plays up the middle. But other than that I think you are all overreacting about the playcalling.
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