Trade?

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the simple answer to your question is that scot mcloughan is so feared around the league that no other team will risk trading with him as they fear he will make them look foolish

or maybe scot doesnt know that you can actually trade players

Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
I find it amazing how GM's see draft picks as so valuable, but they are more of a gamble than anything else.

totally agree..

Originally posted by hofer36:
the simple answer to your question is that scot mcloughan is so feared around the league that no other team will risk trading with him as they fear he will make them look foolish

or maybe scot doesnt know that you can actually trade players

Sounds like the truth to me. When was the last time we actually traded for a player? The 0-16 Lions are even able to pull off trades!

[ Edited by WheresWaldo on Sep 6, 2009 at 16:46:16 ]

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Psinex:

Originally posted by ddc58:
You mean you'd like the niners to get ripped off just like that raiders always do? If the NFL had a trade veto rule like in fantasy, then all of the raiders trades would get vetoed!

First the Raiders give, yes give, Randy Moss to the Patriots for...was it a 4th or 6th round pick? And then they trade their 1st (yet another for the Pats) to the Patriots for a guy in his contract year (read: rental)? How stupid are these people?

hey bro....we traded our second best receiver of all time (stat wise) and our huge playmaker (where as Randay wasn't making plays in Oakland)....also a player that helped our running game......all for a 5th round pick and Brandon Whiting.

some can think T.O. was bad for the team....well Moss quit on the Raiders...and atleast T.O. was still making plays, even though Jeff was his QB.

we were lucky to get anything for him. the arbitrator was going to rule in his favor.

Trading just to trade is a bad idea. Making sure that you get something out of the trade is most important. There is a reason why you don't see many players in their last yr traded during that yr.

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Psinex:

Originally posted by ddc58:
You mean you'd like the niners to get ripped off just like that raiders always do? If the NFL had a trade veto rule like in fantasy, then all of the raiders trades would get vetoed!

First the Raiders give, yes give, Randy Moss to the Patriots for...was it a 4th or 6th round pick? And then they trade their 1st (yet another for the Pats) to the Patriots for a guy in his contract year (read: rental)? How stupid are these people?

hey bro....we traded our second best receiver of all time (stat wise) and our huge playmaker (where as Randay wasn't making plays in Oakland)....also a player that helped our running game......all for a 5th round pick and Brandon Whiting.

some can think T.O. was bad for the team....well Moss quit on the Raiders...and atleast T.O. was still making plays, even though Jeff was his QB.

we were lucky to get anything for him. the arbitrator was going to rule in his favor.

of course he was.....at the end of the day, T.O. is usually always right.

Originally posted by ddc58:
You mean you'd like the niners to get ripped off just like that raiders always do? If the NFL had a trade veto rule like in fantasy, then all of the raiders trades would get vetoed!

No they wouldn't.

Crypt Keeper would sue them, so he could continue to get taken advantage of by the rest of the league.

~Ceadder

Biggest reason as to why we do not trade often (or not at all) is because we're actually trying to build from the draft, and build the car before being able to spend on the hood ornaments.

When you hear of BIG trades, they usually come from established teams that either have their s**t together, or have the financial/on-board talent to put up and build more established talent (with the ability to trade 1st round picks) around an already talented franchise (you know... like Carmen Policy did for us back in the 80's-90's).

As it stands, we are just not there yet, and we'd be wholesaling our future on players that do not want to be here because we're not a con-current/worthy playoff team.

[ Edited by SnakePlissken on Sep 6, 2009 at 17:13:36 ]

i would've liked to see us pull a trade off but in all reality seymour's contract is ridiculous, and that fits perfect for the raiders. but with the possibility of no cap next yr which highly looks possible i think we should've done that trade as well.

Originally posted by WheresWaldo:

Originally posted by hofer36:
the simple answer to your question is that scot mcloughan is so feared around the league that no other team will risk trading with him as they fear he will make them look foolish

or maybe scot doesnt know that you can actually trade players

Sounds like the truth to me. When was the last time we actually traded for a player? The 0-16 Lions are even able to pull off trades!

That would be Darell Jackson.

Originally posted by Brazilian49er:

Originally posted by WheresWaldo:

Originally posted by hofer36:
the simple answer to your question is that scot mcloughan is so feared around the league that no other team will risk trading with him as they fear he will make them look foolish

or maybe scot doesnt know that you can actually trade players

Sounds like the truth to me. When was the last time we actually traded for a player? The 0-16 Lions are even able to pull off trades!

That would be Darell Jackson.

And THERE is your answer why we don't do trades anymore.

SERIOUSLY. you know, if we were having better luck in the draft, id be cool with builiding through the draft, but honestly.. 1st pick = bust for niners. EXCEPT the willis/stately year.

Originally posted by BurritoSmuggler:
SERIOUSLY. you know, if we were having better luck in the draft, id be cool with builiding through the draft, but honestly.. 1st pick = bust for niners. EXCEPT the willis/stately year.

Davis is a bust as well?

Balmer?

Smith is still an unknown although many will not admit it.

The truth is, it takes three years before a player clearly shows their value.

Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
I do think we could send Carolina's 1st back inexchange for Peppers.


We need a pass-rush DESPERATELY!

or save it and get Taylor Mays