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The only time I've ever rooted against the 49ers.......

Originally posted by IWASATTHECATCH:
Originally posted by Faithful1978:
Originally posted by Ninerbowl6:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
This was also the year the niners won the superbowl. They made the right choice by getting rid of joe.

No....this is the year we bought the superbowl....we would've won it with steve or joe.

I disagree 100% Montana wouldnt have beaten the Cowboys in 92 or 93 either. It was Youngs time and team...

-Joe had no business beating America's Team & The Doomday Defense

-Joe had no business beating Marino's "high powered" offense

-Everyone counted him out In '86, when he injured his back in week 1, and required immediate surgery; doctors strongly suggested he retire. Joe had no business returning to the field.


-When Joe was knocked out by Leonard Marshall and missed all of '91 and most of '92, he had no business coming back.

-Joe had no business leading the '93 Chiefs to their only AFC Championship game (post AFL). Nor did he have any business making the AFC Pro Bowl that year, either.

-KC's last playoff victory to date-- Joe had no business leading them to that, too.

So please, don't tell me with Joe Montana behind center, that you'd "100% guarantee" to count him out against any team. Besides, Steve was a wet, hot mess in the post-season in '92 & '93.

In '92 Steve had 4 turnovers in a 20-16 win over Washington, then against Dallas, we were tied 10-10 at halftime. In the 4th quarter Young threw 2 crucial INTs and we lost a very winnable game (by "Joe standards") by 10 AT home. Joe WINS that game.

In '93... Cowboys were tough, but so was Joe. Always.





FTW!


PS- You're able to change your username once. I suggest trying something without the word "Faithful" in it.


Damn near brought a tear to my eye.

Good times...something in very short supply around Ninerland over the last 6 or so years.

[ Edited by horsecore on Sep 6, 2009 at 10:02:37 ]
Originally posted by bigmike55:
So if Patrick Willis one day got signed by another team, and he played the 49ers, you'd be rooting against the 49ers? epic fail.

though i agree with rooting for your team over a player..

this is just a ridiculous comparison, patrick willis hasnt even sniffed the idea of doing what joe did for this franchise..

[ Edited by MaliCali on Sep 6, 2009 at 10:25:53 ]
Originally posted by IWASATTHECATCH:
Originally posted by Faithful1978:
Originally posted by Ninerbowl6:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
This was also the year the niners won the superbowl. They made the right choice by getting rid of joe.

No....this is the year we bought the superbowl....we would've won it with steve or joe.

I disagree 100% Montana wouldnt have beaten the Cowboys in 92 or 93 either. It was Youngs time and team...

-Joe had no business beating America's Team & The Doomday Defense

-Joe had no business beating Marino's "high powered" offense

-Everyone counted him out In '86, when he injured his back in week 1, and required immediate surgery; doctors strongly suggested he retire. Joe had no business returning to the field.

-When Joe was knocked out by Leonard Marshall and missed all of '91 and most of '92, he had no business coming back.

-Joe had no business leading the '93 Chiefs to their only AFC Championship game (post AFL). Nor did he have any business making the AFC Pro Bowl that year, either.

-KC's last playoff victory to date-- Joe had no business leading them to that, too.

So please, don't tell me with Joe Montana behind center, that you'd "100% guarantee" to count him out against any team. Besides, Steve was a wet, hot mess in the post-season in '92 & '93.

In '92 Steve had 4 turnovers in a 20-16 win over Washington, then against Dallas, we were tied 10-10 at halftime. In the 4th quarter Young threw 2 crucial INTs and we lost a very winnable game (by "Joe standards") by 10 AT home. Joe WINS that game.

In '93... Cowboys were tough, but so was Joe. Always.





FTW!


PS- You're able to change your username once. I suggest trying something without the word "Faithful" in it.


Actually ive been a "Faithful" since 1988 and that wont change.. Im entitled to prefer Steve Young over Montana! I NEVER discounted what Montana did for the franchise or what he means to the 49er fans. The Dallas defense was quite good both years and in case you forgot the '92 game we had a Rice TD called back on a BS holding call, Watters turning the ball over and the D coming up short on several occasions. Young made several plays with his legs that Montana could not have made...
Originally posted by GoldRush:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by GoldRush:
The difference between ME (A TRUE 49ER FAN) and YOU (A FAKE ASS 49ER FAN) is you were rooting for Montana to beat our team. I rooted for the 49ers to break his back again.

Any "fan" that would root for a player to get injured, especially a legend like Montana, isn't a fan of football. Period.

I'm a 49ers fan, not a FOOTBALL fan.. a 49ERS FAN. get it right goof troop


What sport do you think the 49ers play? Golf?
Originally posted by GoldRush:
The difference between ME (A TRUE 49ER FAN) and YOU (A FAKE ASS 49ER FAN) is you were rooting for Montana to beat our team. I rooted for the 49ers to break his back again.

There isn't a doubt in my mind that the 49ers would have beaten the Cowboys in 1992 if Joe had been the starting qb. There are two things that Jimmy Johnson has consistently said about that game (He used to talk about the game on local dallas sports radio shows all the time).


On the 92 cowboys vs 49ers NFC championship game:


#1 He felt the 49ers had superior talent.

#2 He was worried the 49ers would put Montana in the game after Young started to struggle.
Steve Young was a great qb BUT in the big games against tough opponents he rarely played to the level Montana did.

When the 49ers finally beat the Cowboys in the 94 title game Young's numbers for the game were extremely modest. We won because our owner wanted to beat dallas so badly that he went out and bought a new defense. Not to mention dallas turnovers in the first few minutes of the game. Trent Dilfer could have won playoff games on that 94 team.
i dont see anything wrong with rooting for the man partly responsible for leading your former team to 4 super bowl victories and making them the dynasty that they were. chances are you became a 49ers fan because of montana.

it doesnt hurt to show some respect, show some class, show some appreciation to a legend.

i wish i had more memories of actually see the man play. but old highlights will have to do i suppose.
Originally posted by GoldRush:
The difference between ME (A TRUE 49ER FAN) and YOU (A FAKE ASS 49ER FAN) is you were rooting for Montana to beat our team. I rooted for the 49ers to break his back again.

Originally posted by nflguy49:
Steve Young was a great qb BUT in the big games against tough opponents he rarely played to the level Montana did.

When the 49ers finally beat the Cowboys in the 94 title game Young's numbers for the game were extremely modest. We won because our owner wanted to beat dallas so badly that he went out and bought a new defense. Not to mention dallas turnovers in the first few minutes of the game. Trent Dilfer could have won playoff games on that 94 team.

Well I guess 6 TDs in the Superbowl isnt quite up to par... regardless of opponent
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Wow...

...I hate to say it, but I've lost a little respect for ya.

I loved Joe, but when he was on the other sideline, he was the enemy.
In all my years as a Niner fan I have never cheered against them. Bill Walsh of all people proved that by the way he handled these players. Walsh adored Ronnie, Montana and Craig but there skill were not 49er caliber in Joe’s case if we had not traded him we would have lost Steve and Joe within two years. In addition we got a 1st round pick for Joe and drafted this kid named Bryant Young with that pick, not a bad selection. Walsh did what was best for the team long term. As much as I hate New England they have the same philosophy as Bill Walsh they just traded a 30 year 5 time Pro Bowler on the down side of his career and in return get a 2011 1st round pick. Considering how the Raiders play they will probably end up having the 1st pick of the draft get a QB to groom behind Brady then trade Brady in 2014 for a 1st round pick see how the rich get richer. That is what we use to do it is why we were great for 20+ years.

I am tired of the argument of Montana vs. Young. The Niners are the only team in NFL history to have back to back HOF at QB. Montana helped put us over the top and is the greatest QB ever however IMO he had more talent around him then Young. Walsh considered the ’84 team his greatest ever. NFL pundits consider the ’89 team the 1st or 2nd greatest team ever. The WC was new and teams did not know how to defend it until around ’85 giving Montana a huge advantage. The ‘90s Cowboys were created in the Niners image (J Jones spent 2 weeks with Eddie getting educated on how to operate an NFL team) and specifically built to beat the Niners they were bigger, faster, hungry and younger. Jimmy Johnson and his staff out coached Seifert yet everyone wants to blame Young and frankly I am sick of it. Look at those games our defense was destroyed in the 4th qtr by there O line and Smith.

Everyone should appreciate what we had with Montana and Young and that while two very different players in personality and in how they played the game they were champions that did this organization proud and allowed us to be a contender for over 20+ years a record still unmatched by any NFL team.
That was the toughest game I have ever had to watch, except for the 1990 NFC Championship Game. Right or wrong, I'll admit I was rooting for Joe. I didn't want KC to win, but I was hoping Joe would have a good game.

We were definitely fortunate to have Joe and Steve at the same time. No matter where you fall on the Joe Vs. Steve debate, one of them had to go. I was pissed that Joe got traded even though it had to happen. I just thought it happended to early, as I still believe, that in 1992, Joe gave us the best chance for a SB. Young was going to be the future of the team, no question, but IMO it was a year too early. Young had only one year as a starter for the niners under his belt at that point and the team failed to make the playoffs that year. Just thought that Joe still had some left in the tank. Knowing how things turned out in '92 and '93 NFC Championship games, I just wonder if it would've been any diffeent with Joe under center. Oh well, you can "what if" it forever I guess.