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What Can We Expect from Jimmy Raye's Offense?

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Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Originally posted by Psinex:
Jimmy Raye Envisions Running 60 Percent of the Time

Somehow, I get the feeling the Niners are going to be very boring to watch this season. I guess that's alright as long as they win games. But running 60% of the time...as if we defenses needed another reason to stack the box and bring up their safeties and corners to the line.



Jimmy Raye is surely a comedian. Has he already talked with our defense about that?? We don't have a pass-rush, so I'm sorry but I expect us to fall behind early in several games. What is he going to do then? Run out the clock?

Maiocco sarcastically observed that, if the Niners do run 60% of the time, that means we won the NFC West and our defense will be in the Top 5.

I completely agree with Maiocco. If our final % is 60-40 run to pass we will win the NFC West & have a top 5 defense. It won't be the most exciting offense, but we will win games.
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How about fewer turnovers!

9ers tied with Denver last year with a -17 TO ratio pathetic.
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
How about fewer turnovers!

9ers tied with Denver last year with a -17 TO ratio pathetic.

We got rid of the main reason for that ugly stat.
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Originally posted by Psinex:
Jimmy Raye Envisions Running 60 Percent of the Time

Somehow, I get the feeling the Niners are going to be very boring to watch this season. I guess that's alright as long as they win games. But running 60% of the time...as if we defenses needed another reason to stack the box and bring up their safeties and corners to the line.



Jimmy Raye is surely a comedian. Has he already talked with our defense about that?? We don't have a pass-rush, so I'm sorry but I expect us to fall behind early in several games. What is he going to do then? Run out the clock?

Maiocco sarcastically observed that, if the Niners do run 60% of the time, that means we won the NFC West and our defense will be in the Top 5.

I completely agree with Maiocco. If our final % is 60-40 run to pass we will win the NFC West & have a top 5 defense. It won't be the most exciting offense, but we will win games.

Of course Maiocco is right. Be he is being sarcastic. He is pointing out that you run when you win not win when you run.

So if your final ration is 60-40 in favor of running, it means you were winning most of the games (since you were able to run out the clock).

That is why it's a big joke from Raye. You can't PLAN to have a 60-40 ratio. It would be the same thing as a baseball coach saying that he is planning on having 4 or 5 grand slams per game. It's ridiculous.

We have no pass-rush. That means we will fall behind in most of the games and we will have to rely on Hill and our WR corp to bring us back.

It would be nice to somoke whatever Raye is smoking, though.
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First the dude says balance, now he says 60-40 running. That is NOT balance, and Brazillian pretty much summed up why it won't work.
It's going to be a boring offense if the preseason is any indication.
Well, if we do any bit of what we did in preseason in regular season, then we will be fine.

What are the fundamental objectives of a team?

1. Run the ball
2. Stop the run

We should be VERY good at both of these. Now, we were actually worse in 2006 in terms of stopping the run and we had an icicle at QB.

We all know Shaun Hill will give us average to above average play and from a 10 game sample, he will RARELY give us JTO or Alex Smith incompetent I don't belong here play. So, that's a plus.

To add, Jimmy Raye will spread the ball to the talent in the passing game. It may not work well, but it will be better or similar to Norv's offense but with a better QB and upgraded receivers.



The achilles heal will be the Pass Defense. Without Roman, I think we will be improved from last year. Parys should be improved so our defense can't possibly be worse than last year.

11 wins baby!!!!!!!!!!!
Maiocco with the best description of the new 49ers mentality:

The team that brought you Bill Walsh’s innovative ball-control passing game would rather pass a kidney stone than pass the football this season under Raye and coach Mike Singletary.
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Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Maiocco with the best description of the new 49ers mentality:

The team that brought you Bill Walsh’s innovative ball-control passing game would rather pass a kidney stone than pass the football this season under Raye and coach Mike Singletary.
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As long as we win.... but....time will tell.
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Maiocco with the best description of the new 49ers mentality:

The team that brought you Bill Walsh’s innovative ball-control passing game would rather pass a kidney stone than pass the football this season under Raye and coach Mike Singletary.
link


Wow. Putting all of our chips into the Frank Gore basket.

I'm going to spend the next week knocking on every piece of wood I can find.
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Maiocco with the best description of the new 49ers mentality:

The team that brought you Bill Walsh’s innovative ball-control passing game would rather pass a kidney stone than pass the football this season under Raye and coach Mike Singletary.
link


look at Raye's record not very impressive but steady and that what we have ! boring !
Well, in game 1 of preseason, we saw a lot of plays that had the ball being spread around. You are not going to see too many balls to the receivers.
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Originally posted by oldninerdude:
Originally posted by PTulini:
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While Raye's offense promises to be much more basic than Martz's version, with primary emphasis being placed on the ground game, daily team observers so far this offseason have been surprised by its creativity, with the passing game so far looking sharper than the running attack.

RB Frank Gore is the focus?

Apparently, according to the tone of the article, we can expect quite alot, and much of it from Gore.

This is one of the most intriguing questions, to me, for the preseason: how will Raye do as a playcaller. What we've seen and heard so far has been good--a surprising emphasis on the pass, unexpected creativity, a disciplined approach.

But none of that shows us how Raye will do as a playcaller. How he will set up the opposing defenses, how he will use the increased number of weapons the offense has, how he will perform under pressure.

Fourth and less than a yard, down by 3, at the other team's 35 and less than three minutes to go in the game. What's he gonna call? Will he gamble?

This should really be fun to watch.

That is one of the most annoying situations to watch for me in the past, if field conditions don't look gook for a FG a team punting in that situation. Then the punter kicks it in the end zone for a field position change of 15 yards. I think Nolan did this a few times too many. At least with Nedney a FG has a good chance of making it. If I was calling plays in that situation I would go for it 100% of the time.
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Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Originally posted by Psinex:
Jimmy Raye Envisions Running 60 Percent of the Time

Somehow, I get the feeling the Niners are going to be very boring to watch this season. I guess that's alright as long as they win games. But running 60% of the time...as if we defenses needed another reason to stack the box and bring up their safeties and corners to the line.



Jimmy Raye is surely a comedian. Has he already talked with our defense about that?? We don't have a pass-rush, so I'm sorry but I expect us to fall behind early in several games. What is he going to do then? Run out the clock?

Maiocco sarcastically observed that, if the Niners do run 60% of the time, that means we won the NFC West and our defense will be in the Top 5.

I completely agree with Maiocco. If our final % is 60-40 run to pass we will win the NFC West & have a top 5 defense. It won't be the most exciting offense, but we will win games.


I no longer care about looking pretty, I just want to see a winning record and being in all games to the end. At this point boring 10-7 wins are fine with me.
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We can expect this:

Q: Can you talk about your offensive style?

A: It’s very important for us to be able to run the ball when we need to run the ball. That’s important. I don’t care if they have eight people in the box or nine people in the box. When you want to run the ball and you need to run the ball to win the game, let’s run the ball. And all the other things, let that go to the wayside. Let’s run the ball.

and this . . .

Q: Are you troubled that the first-team offense hasn’t had a passing touchdown in the exhibition season?

A: It really has no significance to me because I don’t look at the game that way. I’m trying to beat the hell out of them and win by one.

You can find that and more good (sarcasm) Jimmy Raye stuff at:

http://sleeperpick.wordpress.com/2009/09/08/red-grange-where-art-thou-the-jimmy-raye-experience/

I'm a newb but I've been reading this site and board for years and you guys rock and I hope you will check my article out!
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