Originally posted by Jersey9er:
Originally posted by Apples:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Meh... can't judge one player off of these numbers. Forget all the numbers from 05 and all of the numbers from games played post-injury. He put up better numbers than many notable QBs in their 2nd seasons (2006) and helped bring SF to 2-1 (2007) with Hostler as our OC. Numbers, Schmumbers...
Ya, I don't understand why people DON'T think Alex is good.
I mean, if you just throw out all the bad games he's had, all his mediocre games, interceptions, fumbles, incomplete passes and all generic brain farts, it's clear that he should be the starter.
It's because some people are gonna hate on the kid regardless. It's just in their nature i guess. It's funny because if you compare eli's superbowl year and smith's 06 year. They are almost identical. Not to mention Eli had almost worse rating, but he's still looked at as a winning qb. I mean it's about the qb, and the talent around him that go hand in hand. And during eli's year, you didnt have to worry about the tons of drops from vd, and djack that year. Overall, the kid isn't a bust yet, and articles from both matts, espn, nfl network, all say he's not bust yet, and may still show sumthing. It's just some of the hating zoners, that are gonna hate no matter what.
here are some interesting stats, as you alluded to...
Alex had a better 2nd year ( his only full year ) than Troy Aikman's 2nd year, and clearly, Aikman had a much better team and stability around him.
quick, look away, before the reality shames some of you
Alex Smith - 2006 ( year 2 )
16 games - 257/442 - 58.1% - 2,890 yds - 6.5 avr - 16 TD/16 INT - QBR - 74.8
Troy Aikman - 1990 ( year 2, and already 11 first year games played)
15 games - 226/399 - 56.6% - 2,579 yds - 6.5 avr - 11 TD/18 INT - QBR - 66.6
(consider that they had Mike Irvin, Emmitt Smith, Jay Novacek, and an OL consisting of Kevin Gogan, Nate Netwon, Stepnoski, Zimmerman, Tuinei, etc.)
Matt Hasselbeck - 2001 (sits for 2 years, year 3 in Seattle)
13 games - 176/321 - 54.8% - 2,023 ys - 6.3 avr. - 7 TD/8 INT - QBR - 70.9
Drew Brees - 2002 ( year 2 )
16 games - 320/526 - 60.8% - 3,284 ys - 6.2 avr. - 17 TD/16 INT - QBR - 76.9
Eli Manning - 2005 ( year 2 )
16 games - 294/557 - 52.8% - 3,762 yds - 6.8 avr - 24 TD/17 INT - QBR - 75.9
(oh by the way, Eli's 4th season numbers were worse)