Originally posted by Afrikan:Originally posted by Gavintech:Originally posted by B650:Originally posted by Gavintech:
I wouldn't say that. As much as I want Hill to be benched, if he plays well (better than in any game this season so far) in those games but the team still loses, he might deserve to keep the starting job.
Conversely if he continues to look like he has all year and play poorly he should be benched even if THE TEAM wins both of those games. They're going to have to look at the big picture and if all he's has are 2-4 good quarters over 7 games a change needs to be made regardless of record.
The 2000 Ravens were 5-1 at one point, beat a hapless divisional foe 37-0 in week 4 (sound familiar?), and went on to win the next two games without the offense scoring a TD. This might not be the best example because they lost the next three games before switching to Trent Dilfer for the rest of the season and the superbowl but A.) I don't want to lose three in a row, & B.) there is no way they make the Superbowl, even with that D, without making that switch at QB.
I'm not going to say we're going to win the SB if we make a change under center right now but the similarities are there.
-They won games early on with great D and special teams
-They did not have a clear starting QB coming out of preseason
-They got a decent running game going, relying on a rookie and a 4 year vet
-Their leading receiver was a Tight End
-The star player on that team was a young LB that would dominate games
-They had an accurate FG kicker
-They shut out a bad team in division 37-0 in week 4 without Banks playing all that well (like we did 35-0 in week 4 without Shaun Hill playing well)
That team was 5-1 after 6 games but was 5-4 after 9. Most notably because their QB was not creating 1st downs or scoring TDs. They made a switch at QB, to TRENT DILFER of all people, and won out the rest of the season and the Super Bowl. There are enough other similarities there, why not see what can be done? Once you do the intellectually honest thing and admit to yourself that Shaun Hill has not played one AVE-GOOD game through more than a quarter of the season so far it's a pretty easy call to make.
I see your point, but at the same time, this isn't the 2000 Ravens. In order to win with a QB like Trent Dilfer, or Shaun Hill, or let's call him Shaun Dilfer from now on, you have to have an INCREDIBLE defense, offensive line, defensive line, running backs, and special teams. Do we? I think we know the answer to that. So, if we don't have any of this, what's the easiest way to improve all of them without getting 10 new players to fix them all? Simple, the QB position. Shaun Dilfer shouldn't be starting on this team because we don't have talent to start a game-manager QB right now. That's the bottom line. Imagine if the Packers had Shaun Dilfer. They'd be 0-5. Since they have Aaron Rodgers, they'll hang around and compete for a playoff spot. Our team was pretty bad in 1998 to be honest, but we still made the playoffs. We had no defense at all, bad special teams, and a horrible offensive line. But guess what? We had Steve Young to make up for it.
The 2000 Ravens were not supposed to win anything either. Also, Dilfer played much better down the stretch that season than Hill has played this season. My point is, a change has got to be made, regardless of record, should Hill have even one more game like ANY of the first five games. Not one of them has been good enough, win or no win.
and that is not going to happen....simply put. I know some feel Shaun has played horrible in each of the previous games or what ever.....but besides the Falcons game.... he has played EXACTLY how Singletary has wanted him to play....hand the ball off....and take high percentage short and intermediate throws and keep the clock moving....and don't take a chance on the deep throw, unless we need to. And it has worked in Sing's favor for more than a couple of games....
do I agree with this philosophy.....no I don't.... but don't get me wrong, I don't want Hill to throw deep passes if it is not necessary "just to get a big play".....but what I do want is for us to pass more on early downs.....as well as pass out of situations where we still have a RB in the backfield...more often then not, I see us coming out in formations with our RB motioning out of the backfield....I say leave him back there so the "threat" of the run is always there.....our Oline is not good enough right now to where we make it 100% obvious that we are going to pass.
So if he has been making the wrong reads and is inaccurate on those throws Singltary is cool with that? That's exactly how he wants him to play?
Hill's offense???? THIS IS RAYE'S OFFENSE!!!! YOU DON'T KNOW WTF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, STOP POSTING!
