Earth...Wind...Fire

Originally posted by Slothrop:

Originally posted by teeohh:
how about Dirty Nasty Filthy

We're a football team, not a porno studio!

Life, Liberty & the pursuit of Happiness


Fi Li Lo = Fight Live Love

Originally posted by RichmondPete:
This is gay

I agree

Originally posted by 9erman:

Originally posted by RichmondPete:
This is gay

I agree

Originally posted by Thizz415:
I don't think Clayton makes the team. If anything Fire would be MR since he never wants to go down and has some nice moves that get him some extra yards.

What have you been watching? For as big and "powerful" as Robinson is, he goes down far too easily. People seem hung up on the college video of him running thru (and knocking out) a defender and the one time he plowed into Dawkins. Other than those two plays, he's looked weak trying to run thru people. LOL @ extra yards. If that were true he would be our short-yardage back. He failed at that. People need to take their homer goggles off when it comes to this guy.

There will NOT be enough carries to go around for all three of them. Frank Gore is the guy. He'll get his 275+ carries and the rest will be split btwn the backups. He is and deserves to be the man. Don't let this draft fool you. We aren't Carolina or Miami. We have a guy that can take 20-25 touches a game. He just needs to be spelled to keep him fresh and healthy.

Originally posted by Joecool:
It's going to be tough beating out Robinson. Don't forget his special team status.

Has nothing to do with his status as a RUNNING BACK. He is far from good as a runningback. I wouldn't even consider him decent.

Originally posted by ads_2006:
how about

Gore, coffee, and sheets

We have a winner.

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by ads_2006:
how about

Gore, coffee, and sheets

We have a winner.

does he win anything?

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by Thizz415:
I don't think Clayton makes the team. If anything Fire would be MR since he never wants to go down and has some nice moves that get him some extra yards.

What have you been watching? For as big and "powerful" as Robinson is, he goes down far too easily. People seem hung up on the college video of him running thru (and knocking out) a defender and the one time he plowed into Dawkins. Other than those two plays, he's looked weak trying to run thru people. LOL @ extra yards. If that were true he would be our short-yardage back. He failed at that. People need to take their homer goggles off when it comes to this guy.

Yea if he was a short yardage guy we probably woulda won that AZ game on MNF. He could still be useful as a wildcat QB though, he's actually a good receiver out of the backfield, and he's a good blocker on special teams.

I'd take Clayton over MRob as a RB though.

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by Thizz415:
I don't think Clayton makes the team. If anything Fire would be MR since he never wants to go down and has some nice moves that get him some extra yards.

What have you been watching? For as big and "powerful" as Robinson is, he goes down far too easily. People seem hung up on the college video of him running thru (and knocking out) a defender and the one time he plowed into Dawkins. Other than those two plays, he's looked weak trying to run thru people. LOL @ extra yards. If that were true he would be our short-yardage back. He failed at that. People need to take their homer goggles off when it comes to this guy.

Yea if he was a short yardage guy we probably woulda won that AZ game on MNF. He could still be useful as a wildcat QB though, he's actually a good receiver out of the backfield, and he's a good blocker on special teams.

I'd take Clayton over MRob as a RB though.

Everyone thinks he can be useful as a QB in the wildcat (which teams will soon SHUT DOWN because it is a gimmick offense), but he's looked absolutely AWFUL every time he's attempted it. He's simply not a running threat, and you NEED TO BE a running threat for that formation to work. DBs need to want to leave coverage to stop you from gaining big yards on the ground in order for the receivers to benefit and be left open for the runner to throw it to them. OR, you need to be able to take off and run if they don't come off their coverage and hurt them on the ground, which Robinson has already proven he cannot do. Since Robinson cannot achieve those objectives, it won't (and hasn't) work(ed). He's a decent receiver out of the backfield (which is not hard to do) and he is a decent blocker, but he is not good enough at either assignment to be irreplaceable. He can be replaced easily by somebody who can do those assignments AND run the ball. He's a good special teams player, but every team has their special teams aces and they aren't very tough to come by. Again, he can be easily replaced.

I don't mean to bash Robinson, but I'm tired of underachieving guys like him and Battle on the team. We're trying to get better, not stay mediocre. Battle gets WAY too much credit for what he has done in the past, which, by the way, is mediocrity at it's finest. The guy is not "clutch," he doesn't have "great hands" and just because he's been the most productive receiver out of a bunch of crappy receivers over the years means NOTHING. The only thing he does well is block downfield, which is good, but it is not something that cannot be replaced.

Keeping guys like them around is a sign of us accepting mediocrity, and in Robinson's case, he's not even good enough to be considered a mediocre RB.

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by Thizz415:
I don't think Clayton makes the team. If anything Fire would be MR since he never wants to go down and has some nice moves that get him some extra yards.

What have you been watching? For as big and "powerful" as Robinson is, he goes down far too easily. People seem hung up on the college video of him running thru (and knocking out) a defender and the one time he plowed into Dawkins. Other than those two plays, he's looked weak trying to run thru people. LOL @ extra yards. If that were true he would be our short-yardage back. He failed at that. People need to take their homer goggles off when it comes to this guy.

Yea if he was a short yardage guy we probably woulda won that AZ game on MNF. He could still be useful as a wildcat QB though, he's actually a good receiver out of the backfield, and he's a good blocker on special teams.

I'd take Clayton over MRob as a RB though.

Everyone thinks he can be useful as a QB in the wildcat (which teams will soon SHUT DOWN because it is a gimmick offense), but he's looked absolutely AWFUL every time he's attempted it. He's simply not a running threat, and you NEED TO BE a running threat for that formation to work. DBs need to want to leave coverage to stop you from gaining big yards on the ground in order for the receivers to benefit and be left open for the runner to throw it to them. OR, you need to be able to take off and run if they don't come off their coverage and hurt them on the ground, which Robinson has already proven he cannot do. Since Robinson cannot achieve those objectives, it won't (and hasn't) work(ed). He's a decent receiver out of the backfield (which is not hard to do) and he is a decent blocker, but he is not good enough at either assignment to be irreplaceable. He can be replaced easily by somebody who can do those assignments AND run the ball. He's a good special teams player, but every team has their special teams aces and they aren't very tough to come by. Again, he can be easily replaced.

I don't mean to bash Robinson, but I'm tired of underachieving guys like him and Battle on the team. We're trying to get better, not stay mediocre. Battle gets WAY too much credit for what he has done in the past, which, by the way, is mediocrity at it's finest. The guy is not "clutch," he doesn't have "great hands" and just because he's been the most productive receiver out of a bunch of crappy receivers over the years means NOTHING. The only thing he does well is block downfield, which is good, but it is not something that cannot be replaced.

Keeping guys like them around is a sign of us accepting mediocrity, and in Robinson's case, he's not even good enough to be considered a mediocre RB.

I tend to agree with you that Robinson is not a dependable RB but his role is ST right now and that isn't going to change anytime soon.

As to Battle, you are wrong on several points: He DOES have very good hands. In addition being the most reliable receiver over the past 4 years, he was also the best punt return guy because he DOES have good hands. Battle is the kind of guy who does all the dirty work when the team needs it. It is just that he isn't the guy who is going to draw the double teams that free up other guys. He may not make the team this year, and I won't cry if that is the case but you are WAY too hard on him to be realistic.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by TlSSER:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Earth(insert your FB) Wind(Coffee) Fire(Gore)

I GOREd some MORAN after he spilled COFFEE on my SHEETS

Rumor has it. You chased him past a MORG ANd up a HILL before he ran into a CRABTREE. To chase him down like that you must have been JONESing for a BATTLE! Or maybe he was just cruising for a BRUCEing?

Best. Wide. Receiver. Name. Corps. Ever.

Originally posted by Watchutalkinbout:
^^^^Yep. The Ball in Coffee's hand doesn't look like it's going anywhere. Gore and Sheets, not so much.

Gore has a perfect 4 point hold on that ball

earth wind and fire indeed...we got our RB's now and we should have the personnel to run anytime...hopefully this new RB's don't fumble!!! but with add depth at running back and WR...this should be an interesting yr for the niners!!!