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Kevin Lynch just did his "Partial Game Analysis." He may not know what he is talking about, but based on his play-by-play review of the QBs, he concluded that "While the recievers have potential, they are not getting separation ... they struggled against back-up corners."

If Lynch is correct, then the lack of productivity from our QBs may fall far more on our WR corp than on ordinary play from our QBs. Instead, they should both be praised for their results under the circumstances.

In fact, Smith may be blessed if he is not selected as the starting QB. He can watch Hill as he labors under difficult circumstances.
Originally posted by excelsior:
Kevin Lynch just did his "Partial Game Analysis." He may not know what he is talking about, but based on his play-by-play review of the QBs, he concluded that "While the recievers have potential, they are not getting separation ... they struggled against back-up corners."

If Lynch is correct, then the lack of productivity from our QBs may fall far more on our WR corp than on ordinary play from our QBs. Instead, they should both be praised for their results under the circumstances.

In fact, Smith may be blessed if he is not selected as the starting QB. He can watch Hill as he labors under difficult circumstances.

I thought about this as well. As much as i'm sure that Smith wants to badly start, it may be best for him to do a Shaun Hill and sit for half the season while continually getting accustomed to the playbook and the NFL.

This of course is assuming that Shaun Hill pulls a JTO which is probably not all that likely.

-9fA
Originally posted by LeadFarmer:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Just so you guys know...

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Alex Smith- 8 Completions 16 Attempts 50% Comp. % 63 Yards 7.875 Avg. Yards per Comp. 1 TDs 1 INTs 1 Sacks

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Shaun Hill- 5 Completions 9 Attempts 55% Comp. % 61 Yards 12.2 Avg. Yards per Comp. 0 TDs 0 INTs 3 Sacks

I just thought I would compare each QBs statistics after Game 2. These numbers come from NFL.com! Neither QB appears to have seperated himself from the other. I think the starting QB decision will be made after Game 3 vs Dallas. This week is crunch time for both QBs!

I don't think there's any question that Shaun Hill is our starting QB.

If he shows that the raiders game was just a bad night and not a trend, I agree, but Smith played better than Hill, which doesn't say much when Hill played so terribly. If those three very catchable balls were not dropped by the receivers, Smith would have looked even better. Bottom line, these guys better get on the ball.

High and behind is catchable but your asking for trouble. Either your receiver is going to get lit up or there are going to be some ints. That's smiths problem and i was looking for him to hit a receiver in stride, but he continues to disappoint.

The pass to Morgan that was picked off would have hit him in the facemask if he hadn't deflected it to the LB. All Smith should have to do is get the ball to their hands, which he did. He has shown improvement the first couple of games, and that is more than can be said of Hill to this point. Hill regressed between Denver and Oakland, the raiders defense clamped down on the underneath stuff and Hill looked very pedestrian.
I like Hill but after actually being at the game last night I noticed Hill just likes to go underneath. I mean it's not bad or anything. If anything it may be a good thing as it shows his confidence in doing what he is most comfortable doing.

My only concern is when there are wrs open down field, we don't need him to just hit Davis or battle underneath for 6 yards.

That's my only worry with hill. If the lowly raiders began to figure him out, imagine opposing defenses around week 6,7 and 8 etc. It will be interesting that's for sure.
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DAVIS!! DAVIS!! DAVIS!! EVERYONE!! Whose with me! Hello.. Um where did everyone go... Oh well...
DAVIS!! DAVIS!! DAVIS!!

[ Edited by Nabisko on Aug 23, 2009 at 8:42 PM ]
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Originally posted by Leathaface:

You guys are fooling yourselves if you think Alex Smith as any chance at being our opening day starter. Hill goes 3 for 7 and all of a sudden he's on even ground with Smith? Get real.

Does anyone honestly think Smith is going to win the 'competition'? That's what I'd like to hear. Not any of this "it's still in the air guys!" I'd like to know who actually believes Alex Smith is going to start.

I believe if Alex Smith outplays Hill again vs. Dallas, Smith will be our opening day starter.

Hill didn't just go 3/7, he did so with some REALLY bad throws, and one that was initially picked off until Morgan ripped it out of the DB's hands. He didn't have the bonehead drops that Smith had, and if those had been caught, the difference between Smith and Hill would have been even larger.

You and your emotional attachment to Hill would do well to develop some objectivity.
Originally posted by Nabisko:
DAVIS!! DAVIS!! DAVIS!! EVERYONE!! Whose with me! Hello.. Um where did everyone go... Oh well...
DAVIS!! DAVIS!! DAVIS!!


Ha Ha your not the only one on his bandwagon.

But im not on it either. HAHAHAAHAHAHA

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sh*t davis should get the start next week or against s.d.
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Originally posted by aacadena:
Originally posted by Nabisko:
DAVIS!! DAVIS!! DAVIS!! EVERYONE!! Whose with me! Hello.. Um where did everyone go... Oh well...
DAVIS!! DAVIS!! DAVIS!!


Ha Ha your not the only one on his bandwagon.

But im not on it either. HAHAHAAHAHAHA


He's with me yay!!! DAVIS!! DAVIS!! DAVIS!!





Cant wait to draft a top QB next year.
Originally posted by indianajim:
Originally posted by Leathaface:

You guys are fooling yourselves if you think Alex Smith as any chance at being our opening day starter. Hill goes 3 for 7 and all of a sudden he's on even ground with Smith? Get real.

Does anyone honestly think Smith is going to win the 'competition'? That's what I'd like to hear. Not any of this "it's still in the air guys!" I'd like to know who actually believes Alex Smith is going to start.

I believe if Alex Smith outplays Hill again vs. Dallas, Smith will be our opening day starter.

Hill didn't just go 3/7, he did so with some REALLY bad throws, and one that was initially picked off until Morgan ripped it out of the DB's hands. He didn't have the bonehead drops that Smith had, and if those had been caught, the difference between Smith and Hill would have been even larger.

You and your emotional attachment to Hill would do well to develop some objectivity.

Good for Hill: Alex has not shined.

Good for Smith: Neither has Hill. But the longer it prolongs i think is best for Smith.

Hopefully somebody grabs the f**king Bull by the horns and blows out Dallas Cuz i hate those f**kers. and their moms.
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Originally posted by aacadena:

Hopefully somebody grabs the f**king Bull by the horns and blows out Dallas Cuz i hate those f**kers. and their moms.

You're absolutely right. Their moms are stupid.
I dont have much confidence in either Hill or Smith, but for me Hill looks like the more ready QB out there. Smith just doesnt have it at all
Originally posted by indianajim:
Originally posted by aacadena:

Hopefully somebody grabs the f**king Bull by the horns and blows out Dallas Cuz i hate those f**kers. and their moms.

You're absolutely right. Their moms are stupid.

Originally posted by indianajim:
Originally posted by Leathaface:

You guys are fooling yourselves if you think Alex Smith as any chance at being our opening day starter. Hill goes 3 for 7 and all of a sudden he's on even ground with Smith? Get real.

Does anyone honestly think Smith is going to win the 'competition'? That's what I'd like to hear. Not any of this "it's still in the air guys!" I'd like to know who actually believes Alex Smith is going to start.

I believe if Alex Smith outplays Hill again vs. Dallas, Smith will be our opening day starter.

Hill didn't just go 3/7, he did so with some REALLY bad throws, and one that was initially picked off until Morgan ripped it out of the DB's hands. He didn't have the bonehead drops that Smith had, and if those had been caught, the difference between Smith and Hill would have been even larger.

You and your emotional attachment to Hill would do well to develop some objectivity.

The pass to Morgan was not in the DBs hands. Morgan also saved Alex on a pass the previous week (no it wasn't a good throw, he got lucky it wasn't picked off).

You call them bonehead drops, I call them passes that weren't on target. All interceptions happen for a reason right? When you constantly throw behind, ahead, and above your targets, there will be some drops and there will be some interceptions. Smith is just as much to blame as Morgan. Every interception isn't clear cut like you'd like to believe. Is it just a coincidence that when Smith comes in, our WRs all of a sudden start to drop passes? Of course not.

Bottom line, at the end of the season you look a guys stats and you don't say his interceptions were/weren't his fault. It is what it is.

Anyway, I have no attachment to Hill, as hard as that may be for you to fathom. I just believe that he's the better QB in every way, shape, and form. Moreover, he's earned the right to start this year.